On 2023-09-21 00:35, RichA wrote:
> Well, as long as they change their hard drives in the warranty period, and don't go broke, I'm suuuuuree your images are...safe.
>
> https://techxplore.com/news/2023-09-cloud-servers.html

Use the cloud for distribution and showing.

Back up your own images.

This is not a hard to understand concept.

--
“Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
- John Maynard Keynes.

Am 21.09.2023 um 15:07 schrieb Alan Browne:
> Use the cloud for distribution and showing.
>
> Back up your own images.

My mom is kind of delighted that her phone apparently has unlimited
storage space for photos, because they all end up in some Google cloud.
In fact, I'm able to watch her images with a browser from my PC, if I
log in with her account.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

On 2023-09-21 12:25, Alfred Molon wrote:
>
> My mom is kind of delighted that her phone apparently has unlimited
> storage space for photos, because they all end up in some Google cloud.
> In fact, I'm able to watch her images with a browser from my PC, if I
> log in with her account.

If she doesn't want to lose them, she, or you, better do a deliberate
backup of them to your own media such as an external disk (that is
replaced from time to time) or stable media.

--
“Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
- John Maynard Keynes.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:18:10 -0400, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

>On 2023-09-21 12:25, Alfred Molon wrote:
>>
>> My mom is kind of delighted that her phone apparently has unlimited
>> storage space for photos, because they all end up in some Google cloud.
>> In fact, I'm able to watch her images with a browser from my PC, if I
>> log in with her account.
>
>If she doesn't want to lose them, she, or you, better do a deliberate
>backup of them to your own media such as an external disk (that is
>replaced from time to time) or stable media.

There are small non-computer devices for backing up just photos from
phones.

On 2023-09-21 16:56, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:18:10 -0400, Alan Browne
> <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-09-21 12:25, Alfred Molon wrote:
>>>
>>> My mom is kind of delighted that her phone apparently has unlimited
>>> storage space for photos, because they all end up in some Google cloud.
>>> In fact, I'm able to watch her images with a browser from my PC, if I
>>> log in with her account.
>>
>> If she doesn't want to lose them, she, or you, better do a deliberate
>> backup of them to your own media such as an external disk (that is
>> replaced from time to time) or stable media.
>
> There are small non-computer devices for backing up just photos from
> phones.

Better to stick with general purpose computers and standard storage
formats (storage media, data format) than some "blackbox" that you might
not be able to recover the files from at some point in the future.

My photos and video can be recovered from any general purpose OS (Mac,
Windows, Unix, Linux, etc.) as files. And these OS' can open them as
images/video as well (not sure about Unix opening DNG, however, but
others - no issue).

--
“Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
- John Maynard Keynes.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:52:23 -0400, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

>On 2023-09-21 16:56, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:18:10 -0400, Alan Browne
>> <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-09-21 12:25, Alfred Molon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My mom is kind of delighted that her phone apparently has unlimited
>>>> storage space for photos, because they all end up in some Google cloud.
>>>> In fact, I'm able to watch her images with a browser from my PC, if I
>>>> log in with her account.
>>>
>>> If she doesn't want to lose them, she, or you, better do a deliberate
>>> backup of them to your own media such as an external disk (that is
>>> replaced from time to time) or stable media.
>>
>> There are small non-computer devices for backing up just photos from
>> phones.
>
>Better to stick with general purpose computers and standard storage
>formats (storage media, data format) than some "blackbox" that you might
>not be able to recover the files from at some point in the future.
>
>My photos and video can be recovered from any general purpose OS (Mac,
>Windows, Unix, Linux, etc.) as files. And these OS' can open them as
>images/video as well (not sure about Unix opening DNG, however, but
>others - no issue).

Quite so. I simply make several copies of all images and send them to
relatives to guarantee survival. USB thumb drives are very spacious
these days. As for the "Cloud", these are vast server warehouses
very susceptible to a Pearl Harbor attack or internal sabotage. The
submarine cables connecting them to the world can be snipped in
several places so as to crash the whole Internet.