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Re: What is the real number?

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Re: Jim, I bet the Naval Academy has better weighing scales than Air Force for Water Electrolysis-- as Air Force is more "flighty". If AP is correct, hydrogen is 1/4 weight of oxygen in water electrolysis, if Pennino & Mainstream is correct hydrogen
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Reduction:: 2H2O(liquid) + 2monopoles- ---> H2(gas) + 2OH- (aqueous) at cathode
Oxidation:: 2H2O(liquid) ----> O2(gas) + 4H+(aqueous) + 4monopole- at anode

My fear is on how to weigh the gases collecting in the test tubes, without contaminating the tubes upon weighing for mass. And this is probably why no-one in physics or chemistry ever thought to weigh the masses in atomic units for if AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the oxygen in atomic mass units.. If dullard Jim and the Mainstream is correct, the hydrogen is 1/8 of the oxygen in amu.

Why does AP claim water must be H4O and the hydrogen atom is actually H2 and not H alone?? Because AP believes all science is Symmetrical, and that a proton with muon inside doing the Faraday law without at least 1 neutron working as a capacitor is Anti-symmetry. Thus, when H and H combine, one of the proton+muon inside the proton turns into a neutron-like capacitor for the other H.

And the Water Electrolysis Experiment is the perfect experiment to prove Water is H4O. It is as if all water is heavy water. And that deuterium is simply a H2 where the one H is fully a neutron. Nature does not find H all alone, not even in the Sun is the hydrogen H but rather H2 for H2 is Atomic Hydrogen.

Jim is both too dumb&lazy to ever look things up before opening big dumb mouth.

It is time for AP to put to work all the new chemistry textbooks I bought some years back.

The first one has an excellent account.

CHEMISTRY, Wilbraham, Staley, Matta, Waterman, 2008, page 680 gives an excellent picture and accounting what goes on in Water electrolysis.

Reduction:: 2H2O(liquid) + 2monopoles- ---> H2(gas) + 2OH- (aqueous) at cathode
Oxidation:: 2H2O(liquid) ----> O2(gas) + 4H+(aqueous) + 4monopole- at anode

Poor Jim seems to be stuck back at the ideal gas laws and not yet arrived at electrochemistry.

Poor Jim Pennino, a stalker of sci.physics, yet knows no physics

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:39 UTC

It is an assumption that unknown is real.
i is a formula with no solution.
Without solution it can't shown as real.
It is named imaginary math for a good
reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
What else does no solution give you?
What do you know about the i formula
if it cannot be solved?

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On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:39:10 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> i is a formula with no solution.
> Without solution it can't shown as real.
> It is named imaginary math for a good
> reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> What else does no solution give you?
> What do you know about the i formula
> if it cannot be solved?

Math is a language,
Invented not revealed.
No more divine than Fortran,
Far less divine than HolyC.
The challenge is avoiding
Contradictions; we are free
To invent new solutions,
To expand the symbols game.
Sure i is imaginary,
Just as imaginary as 0.
All in our feeble attempt
To describe the cosmos.
This is getting cringe,
But you get the idea.

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On 8/21/2023 4:39 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> i is a formula with no solution.
> Without solution it can't shown as real.
> It is named imaginary math for a good
> reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> What else does no solution give you?
> What do you know about the i formula
> if it cannot be solved?
>
>

Plot 0+1i for me. I can, but for some damn reason, you cannot.

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 by: Jeffrey Rubard - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:13 UTC

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:06:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 8/21/2023 4:39 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > i is a formula with no solution.
> > Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > It is named imaginary math for a good
> > reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > What else does no solution give you?
> > What do you know about the i formula
> > if it cannot be solved?
> >
> >
> Plot 0+1i for me. I can, but for some damn reason, you cannot.

"Imaginary numbers", etc. "Complex analysis", etc. #wordmagicians

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On 8/23/2023 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:06:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 8/21/2023 4:39 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> It is an assumption that unknown is real.
>>> i is a formula with no solution.
>>> Without solution it can't shown as real.
>>> It is named imaginary math for a good
>>> reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
>>> What else does no solution give you?
>>> What do you know about the i formula
>>> if it cannot be solved?
>>>
>>>
>> Plot 0+1i for me. I can, but for some damn reason, you cannot.
>
> "Imaginary numbers", etc. "Complex analysis", etc. #wordmagicians

Exactly. Here is a hint to Mitch: To plot 0+1i, well, think of a point
on the unit circle, (0, 1) with respect to (x, y)? Plot that on some
graph paper for me. First draw a unit circle, then plot 0+1i that is a
point on the circle.

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 by: Jeffrey Rubard - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:45 UTC

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:26:38 AM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 8/23/2023 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:06:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> On 8/21/2023 4:39 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> >>> i is a formula with no solution.
> >>> Without solution it can't shown as real.
> >>> It is named imaginary math for a good
> >>> reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> >>> What else does no solution give you?
> >>> What do you know about the i formula
> >>> if it cannot be solved?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Plot 0+1i for me. I can, but for some damn reason, you cannot.
> >
> > "Imaginary numbers", etc. "Complex analysis", etc. #wordmagicians
> Exactly. Here is a hint to Mitch: To plot 0+1i, well, think of a point
> on the unit circle, (0, 1) with respect to (x, y)? Plot that on some
> graph paper for me. First draw a unit circle, then plot 0+1i that is a
> point on the circle.

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 by: Jeffrey Rubard - Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:06 UTC

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:45:19 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:26:38 AM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 8/23/2023 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:06:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >> On 8/21/2023 4:39 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > >>> i is a formula with no solution.
> > >>> Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > >>> It is named imaginary math for a good
> > >>> reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > >>> What else does no solution give you?
> > >>> What do you know about the i formula
> > >>> if it cannot be solved?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Plot 0+1i for me. I can, but for some damn reason, you cannot.
> > >
> > > "Imaginary numbers", etc. "Complex analysis", etc. #wordmagicians
> > Exactly. Here is a hint to Mitch: To plot 0+1i, well, think of a point
> > on the unit circle, (0, 1) with respect to (x, y)? Plot that on some
> > graph paper for me. First draw a unit circle, then plot 0+1i that is a
> > point on the circle.
> "Do you guys realize just how garbage-y your 'copypasta' is?"
> "No."
> "Oh, well then."

(They really don't. They think it's 'pure brilliance'.)

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 by: Jeffrey Rubard - Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:44 UTC

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:06:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:45:19 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:26:38 AM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > On 8/23/2023 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:06:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >> On 8/21/2023 4:39 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>> It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > > >>> i is a formula with no solution.
> > > >>> Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > > >>> It is named imaginary math for a good
> > > >>> reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > > >>> What else does no solution give you?
> > > >>> What do you know about the i formula
> > > >>> if it cannot be solved?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> Plot 0+1i for me. I can, but for some damn reason, you cannot.
> > > >
> > > > "Imaginary numbers", etc. "Complex analysis", etc. #wordmagicians
> > > Exactly. Here is a hint to Mitch: To plot 0+1i, well, think of a point
> > > on the unit circle, (0, 1) with respect to (x, y)? Plot that on some
> > > graph paper for me. First draw a unit circle, then plot 0+1i that is a
> > > point on the circle.
> > "Do you guys realize just how garbage-y your 'copypasta' is?"
> > "No."
> > "Oh, well then."
> (They really don't. They think it's 'pure brilliance'.)

....as opposed to instructions to get *them* in psychiatric treatment, more generally.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 00:25 UTC

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-7, Kevin S wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:39:10 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > i is a formula with no solution.
> > Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > It is named imaginary math for a good
> > reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > What else does no solution give you?
> > What do you know about the i formula
> > if it cannot be solved?
> Math is a language,
> Invented not revealed.

It is God's language for physics.
Physics reveals math before man
back to the absolute beginning.

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 by: Jeffrey Rubard - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:11 UTC

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 5:25:27 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-7, Kevin S wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:39:10 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > > i is a formula with no solution.
> > > Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > > It is named imaginary math for a good
> > > reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > > What else does no solution give you?
> > > What do you know about the i formula
> > > if it cannot be solved?
> > Math is a language,
> > Invented not revealed.
> It is God's language for physics.
> Physics reveals math before man
> back to the absolute beginning.

"Pseudo-scientific garbage"?

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On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 1:11:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 5:25:27 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-7, Kevin S wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:39:10 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > > > i is a formula with no solution.
> > > > Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > > > It is named imaginary math for a good
> > > > reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > > > What else does no solution give you?
> > > > What do you know about the i formula
> > > > if it cannot be solved?
> > > Math is a language,
> > > Invented not revealed.
> > It is God's language for physics.
> > Physics reveals math before man
> > back to the absolute beginning.
> "Pseudo-scientific garbage"?

Wider World: "I'd sure say so. These are the sort of people you have to escort out of science classes."

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On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:20:34 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 1:11:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 5:25:27 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-7, Kevin S wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:39:10 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > > > > i is a formula with no solution.
> > > > > Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > > > > It is named imaginary math for a good
> > > > > reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > > > > What else does no solution give you?
> > > > > What do you know about the i formula
> > > > > if it cannot be solved?
> > > > Math is a language,
> > > > Invented not revealed.
> > > It is God's language for physics.
> > > Physics reveals math before man
> > > back to the absolute beginning.
> > "Pseudo-scientific garbage"?
> Wider World: "I'd sure say so. These are the sort of people you have to escort out of science classes."

"Why's that?"
"Because that's a kind of 'natural theodicy', not science, and if you saw what they did with it..."

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From: theleast...@gmail.com (Jeffrey Rubard)
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 by: Jeffrey Rubard - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 15:57 UTC

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:17:34 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:20:34 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 1:11:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 5:25:27 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-7, Kevin S wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:39:10 AM UTC+2, mitchr....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > It is an assumption that unknown is real.
> > > > > > i is a formula with no solution.
> > > > > > Without solution it can't shown as real.
> > > > > > It is named imaginary math for a good
> > > > > > reason. Math cannot have it both ways.
> > > > > > What else does no solution give you?
> > > > > > What do you know about the i formula
> > > > > > if it cannot be solved?
> > > > > Math is a language,
> > > > > Invented not revealed.
> > > > It is God's language for physics.
> > > > Physics reveals math before man
> > > > back to the absolute beginning.
> > > "Pseudo-scientific garbage"?
> > Wider World: "I'd sure say so. These are the sort of people you have to escort out of science classes."
> "Why's that?"
> "Because that's a kind of 'natural theodicy', not science, and if you saw what they did with it..."

"Uh huh, it's like a pseudo-scientific mythology of how they rock?"
Very much so.

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