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Subject: hominoid/cercopithecoid differences
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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 19:34 UTC

Apes differ dratically from OWMs:
- very wide pelvis, thorax, sternum:
legs & arms more laterally than ventrally directed,
scapulas dorsal rather than lateral,
- much larger body (secondariy reduced in hylobatids),
- centrally-placed spine:
less lumbar vertebrae,
more sacral vertebrae = sacralisation,
less coccygal = external tail loss.

Why?

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Wed, 24 Aug 2022 09:19 UTC

Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2022 om 21:34:16 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:

Apes differ drastically from OWMs, e.g.
1) much larger body (secondariy reduced in lesser apes),
2) very wide pelvis, thorax, sternum (Hominoidea=Latisternalia):
- legs & arms more laterally than ventrally directed,
- scapulas dorsal rather than lateral,
3) centrally-placed spine (instead of dorsally-placed in most mammals),
- less lumbar vertebrae,
- more sacral vertebrae = sacralisation,
- much less coccygal vertebrae = external tail loss.
Why?

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Subject: Re: hominoid/cercopithecoid differences
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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Thu, 25 Aug 2022 02:12 UTC

On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:19:38 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2022 om 21:34:16 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
>
> Apes differ drastically from OWMs, e.g.
> 1) much larger body (secondariy reduced in lesser apes),
> 2) very wide pelvis, thorax, sternum (Hominoidea=Latisternalia):
> - legs & arms more laterally than ventrally directed,
> - scapulas dorsal rather than lateral,
> 3) centrally-placed spine (instead of dorsally-placed in most mammals),
> - less lumbar vertebrae,
> - more sacral vertebrae = sacralisation,
> - much less coccygal vertebrae = external tail loss.
> Why?

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