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* Re: Paleo-etymologyDaud Deden
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Subject: Re: Paleo-etymology
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 by: Daud Deden - Tue, 31 May 2022 13:13 UTC

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:27:23 AM UTC-4, Dingbat wrote:
> On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 5:07:47 PM UTC+5:30, Daud Deden wrote:
> > https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDreidel&geid=NSTNR
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> >
> > According to some scholars, the dreidel developed from an Irish or English top introduced into Germany known as a teetotum
> >
> > In German this came to be called a trendel,
> >
> > The Yiddish word dreydl comes from the word dreyen ("to turn", compare to drehen, meaning the same in German). The Hebrew word sevivon comes from the Semitic root sbb ("to turn") .

In perusing the Semitic roots appendix of AHD, however, I found two things that caught my attention:

1. the root ṣpp ("to press down, cover, overlay"), which has a variant ṣwp, also has the quadriliteral form ṣpṣp

Sbb = spp domeshield

Hayyim Nahman Bialik used a different word, kirkar (from the root krkr – "to spin")
> >
> > Trendel@Grm: spinning top
> > Dreydl@Yid: to turn
> > Krkr@Hbr: to spin
>
> I've also seen gilgul.
>
> In Hebrew, the word gilgul means "cycle" or "wheel"
> https://g.co/kgs/NAXsXa
>
> Looks similar to circle, and kirkar too looks similar.
>
> > Tletl@Azt: firedrill
> > Pintal@Mly: spin twist fiber
> > Gasing@Mly: spinning top

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Subject: Re: Paleo-etymology
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 by: Daud Deden - Tue, 31 May 2022 14:57 UTC

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:13:07 AM UTC-4, Daud Deden wrote:
> On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:27:23 AM UTC-4, Dingbat wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 5:07:47 PM UTC+5:30, Daud Deden wrote:
> > > https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDreidel&geid=NSTNR
> > >
> > >
> > > According to some scholars, the dreidel developed from an Irish or English top introduced into Germany known as a teetotum
> > >
> > > In German this came to be called a trendel,
> > >
> > > The Yiddish word dreydl comes from the word dreyen ("to turn", compare to drehen, meaning the same in German). The Hebrew word sevivon comes from the Semitic root sbb ("to turn") .

From Language Log:

" In perusing the Semitic roots appendix of AHD, however, I found two things that caught my attention:
1. the root ṣpp ("to press down, cover, overlay"), which has a variant ṣwp, also has the quadriliteral form ṣpṣp "
Sbb = spp wrt domeshield (Note: Arab & Berber tents were circular skin tents, Beduin tents were rectangular goat-hair tents)

So we see the (spin around/cover) links in Hebrew, sbb = spp = swp (sevivon/swerve/sweep/swab/swap) = spsp <= XYuamB

> Hayyim Nahman Bialik used a different word, kirkar (from the root krkr – "to spin")

encircle/rotate kirkar = krkr = krkl = circle/circuit/cycle/coracle/KuphaRiGoLu/Gopher-/gufa/topa@Hindi: coracle

> > > Trendel@Grm: spinning top
> > > Dreydl@Yid: to turn
> > > Krkr@Hbr: to spin
> >
> > I've also seen gilgul.
> >
> > In Hebrew, the word gilgul means "cycle" or "wheel"
> > https://g.co/kgs/NAXsXa
> >
> > Looks similar to circle, and kirkar too looks similar.
> >
> > > Tletl@Azt: firedrill
> > > Pintal@Mly: spin twist fiber
> > > Gasing@Mly: spinning top

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