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* Re: Zero is NOT a number.bassam karzeddin
+* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Fritz Feldhase
|`* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
| `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Fritz Feldhase
|  `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
|   `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.markus...@gmail.com
|    +* Re: Zero is NOT a number.bassam karzeddin
|    |+* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
|    ||`- Re: Zero is NOT a number.Timothy Golden
|    |`* Re: Zero is NOT a number.markus...@gmail.com
|    | `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.bassam karzeddin
|    |  `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.markus...@gmail.com
|    |   `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
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|    |     `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
|    |      `- Re: Zero is NOT a number.markus...@gmail.com
|    `* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Fritz Feldhase
|     +- Re: Zero is NOT a number.Chris M. Thomasson
|     `- Re: Zero is NOT a number.markus...@gmail.com
+* Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
|`- Re: Zero is NOT a number.Eram semper recta
`* RE: Re: Zero is NOT a number.Earle
 +- Re: Re: Zero is NOT a number.bassam karzeddin
 `- Re: Zero is NOT a number.Phil Carmody

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 17:33 UTC

On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:30:37 PM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> Poor idiot mainstream academics.
>
> A number is by definition a ratio which by definition is a comparison or measure.
>
> The first ratios were NOT numbers but magnitudes. e.g. pi = c : 2r
>
> As we know, 2r (diameter) does not measure c (circumference).
>
> A NUMBER DESCRIBES THE ****MEASURE**** OF A SIZE OR QUANTITY OR MAGNITUDE..
>
> 0 does NOT describe the ****MEASURE**** of ANY size, therefore 0 is NOT a number.
>
> The chief property of a NUMBER is that it has a COMMON MEASURE with other NUMBERS. 0 has NO COMMON measure with any other number.
>
> 0 is a PLACE-HOLDER. NOTHING more, NOTHING LESS.
>
> 0 is NOT a NUMBER.
>
> Therefore, since any number is written as p:q where both p and q are measured in whole units, it follows that neither can be 0.
>
> While it is common to assume that 0/q = 0, it is not strictly speaking correct because NO part of q measures 0.
>
> It is utterly meaningless to write 0/q but because algebra is a weak form of geometry, 0/q is just another way of saying 0 in algebra which means 0 in the role of place-holder. There is no such thing as 0 magnitude in geometry.
>
> Now since all the arithmetic operations in algebra are directly derived from geometry, it must be remembered that the role it plays in algebra is strictly that of PLACE-HOLDER.
>
> Rather than write x^2 + 2x + 1 in algebra when we wish to solve for zeroes, we write x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0. We could write x^2 + 2x + 1 = but this is ambiguous.
>
> In fact, ZERO is not required at all in mathematics but it is very useful as I explain in my article:
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/all-zero-john-gabriel/

Yes; Zero is no integer; nor any real number & not a number at all, but a very old fiction idea like the silly idea of infinity; for sure 😜

BKK 🔊

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 by: Fritz Feldhase - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 19:45 UTC

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:

> Zero is no integer

Really?

"An unsigned integer is a 32-bit datum that encodes a nonnegative integer in the range [0 to 4294967295]."

Source: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=types-signed-unsigned-integers

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 by: Eram semper recta - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 23:27 UTC

On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
>
> > Zero is no integer
>
> Really?

Yes, asshole. Really.

>
> "An unsigned integer is a 32-bit datum that encodes a nonnegative integer in the range [0 to 4294967295]."

First sign of a math crank is when he tries to use computer specific definitions in mathematics. Tsk, tsk.

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 by: Eram semper recta - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 23:29 UTC

On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 13:33:57 UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:30:37 PM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > Poor idiot mainstream academics.
> >
> > A number is by definition a ratio which by definition is a comparison or measure.
> >
> > The first ratios were NOT numbers but magnitudes. e.g. pi = c : 2r
> >
> > As we know, 2r (diameter) does not measure c (circumference).
> >
> > A NUMBER DESCRIBES THE ****MEASURE**** OF A SIZE OR QUANTITY OR MAGNITUDE.
> >
> > 0 does NOT describe the ****MEASURE**** of ANY size, therefore 0 is NOT a number.
> >
> > The chief property of a NUMBER is that it has a COMMON MEASURE with other NUMBERS. 0 has NO COMMON measure with any other number.
> >
> > 0 is a PLACE-HOLDER. NOTHING more, NOTHING LESS.
> >
> > 0 is NOT a NUMBER.
> >
> > Therefore, since any number is written as p:q where both p and q are measured in whole units, it follows that neither can be 0.
> >
> > While it is common to assume that 0/q = 0, it is not strictly speaking correct because NO part of q measures 0.
> >
> > It is utterly meaningless to write 0/q but because algebra is a weak form of geometry, 0/q is just another way of saying 0 in algebra which means 0 in the role of place-holder. There is no such thing as 0 magnitude in geometry.
> >
> > Now since all the arithmetic operations in algebra are directly derived from geometry, it must be remembered that the role it plays in algebra is strictly that of PLACE-HOLDER.
> >
> > Rather than write x^2 + 2x + 1 in algebra when we wish to solve for zeroes, we write x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0. We could write x^2 + 2x + 1 = but this is ambiguous.
> >
> > In fact, ZERO is not required at all in mathematics but it is very useful as I explain in my article:
> >
> > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/all-zero-john-gabriel/
> Yes; Zero is no integer; nor any real number & not a number at all, but a very old fiction idea like the silly idea of infinity; for sure 😜

Right, but it does have one use: it measures that amount of brains that mainstream idiots contain - NONE. 🤣😂🤣🤣
>
> BKK 🔊

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 by: Eram semper recta - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 23:31 UTC

On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 19:29:28 UTC-4, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 13:33:57 UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:30:37 PM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > Poor idiot mainstream academics.
> > >
> > > A number is by definition a ratio which by definition is a comparison or measure.
> > >
> > > The first ratios were NOT numbers but magnitudes. e.g. pi = c : 2r
> > >
> > > As we know, 2r (diameter) does not measure c (circumference).
> > >
> > > A NUMBER DESCRIBES THE ****MEASURE**** OF A SIZE OR QUANTITY OR MAGNITUDE.
> > >
> > > 0 does NOT describe the ****MEASURE**** of ANY size, therefore 0 is NOT a number.
> > >
> > > The chief property of a NUMBER is that it has a COMMON MEASURE with other NUMBERS. 0 has NO COMMON measure with any other number.
> > >
> > > 0 is a PLACE-HOLDER. NOTHING more, NOTHING LESS.
> > >
> > > 0 is NOT a NUMBER.
> > >
> > > Therefore, since any number is written as p:q where both p and q are measured in whole units, it follows that neither can be 0.
> > >
> > > While it is common to assume that 0/q = 0, it is not strictly speaking correct because NO part of q measures 0.
> > >
> > > It is utterly meaningless to write 0/q but because algebra is a weak form of geometry, 0/q is just another way of saying 0 in algebra which means 0 in the role of place-holder. There is no such thing as 0 magnitude in geometry.
> > >
> > > Now since all the arithmetic operations in algebra are directly derived from geometry, it must be remembered that the role it plays in algebra is strictly that of PLACE-HOLDER.
> > >
> > > Rather than write x^2 + 2x + 1 in algebra when we wish to solve for zeroes, we write x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0. We could write x^2 + 2x + 1 = but this is ambiguous.
> > >
> > > In fact, ZERO is not required at all in mathematics but it is very useful as I explain in my article:
> > >
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/all-zero-john-gabriel/
> > Yes; Zero is no integer; nor any real number & not a number at all, but a very old fiction idea like the silly idea of infinity; for sure 😜
> Right, but it does have one use: it measures that amount of brains that mainstream idiots contain - NONE. 🤣😂🤣🤣
> >
> > BKK 🔊

Mainstream morons love to call Zero a number because it describes their intelligence better than any other number. 🤣😂🤣🤣

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 by: Fritz Feldhase - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 00:42 UTC

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> >
> > > Zero is no integer
> >
> > Really?
> >
> Yes

Nope.

Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)

Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.

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On Mon Sep 4 10:33:51 2023 bassam karzeddin wrote:
> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:30:37PM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > Poor idiot mainstream academics.
> >
> > A number is by definition a ratio which by definition is a comparison or measure.
> >
> > The first ratios were NOT numbers but magnitudes. e.g. pi = c : 2r
> >
> > As we know, 2r (diameter) does not measure c (circumference).
> >
> > A NUMBER DESCRIBES THE ****MEASURE**** OF A SIZE OR QUANTITY OR MAGNITUDE.
> >
> > 0 does NOT describe the ****MEASURE**** of ANY size, therefore 0 is NOT a number.

BK: The Romans would have loved you. They also did not have a zero!

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 15:13 UTC

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 3:55:24 AM UTC+3, Earle wrote:
> On Mon Sep 4 10:33:51 2023 bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:30:37 PM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > Poor idiot mainstream academics.
> > >
> > > A number is by definition a ratio which by definition is a comparison or measure.
> > >
> > > The first ratios were NOT numbers but magnitudes. e.g. pi = c : 2r
> > >
> > > As we know, 2r (diameter) does not measure c (circumference).
> > >
> > > A NUMBER DESCRIBES THE ****MEASURE**** OF A SIZE OR QUANTITY OR MAGNITUDE.
> > >
> > > 0 does NOT describe the ****MEASURE**** of ANY size, therefore 0 is NOT a number.
> BK: The Romans would have loved you. They also did not have a zero!
>
> earle

Your repeated comment had been answered elsewhere!
BKK
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On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Zero is no integer
> > >
> > > Really?
> > >
> > Yes
> Nope.
>
> Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)

What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.

Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".

>
> Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.

Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!

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tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > >
> > > > Really?
> > > >
> > > Yes
> > Nope.
> >
> > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
>
> Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> >
> > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.

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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > >
> > > > > Really?
> > > > >
> > > > Yes
> > > Nope.
> > >
> > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> >
> > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > >
> > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.

Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "

What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?

BKK

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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 6:42:10 PM UTC+2, markus...@gmail.com wrote:

> I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.

Oh, c'mon, Mr. Rectum certainly can't be a number... After all, he *is* a fucking asshole full of shit!

(Of course, you are right ... not taking into account Mr. Rectum.)

Ever read the famous paper "What numbers could not be" by Paul Benacerraf?

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On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 17:14:20 UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Really?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yes
> > > > Nope.
> > > >
> > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > >
> > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > >
> > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
>
> What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?

Yes, they're unbelievably stupid.

>
> BKK

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 21:40 UTC

On 9/5/2023 2:30 PM, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 6:42:10 PM UTC+2, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
>
> Oh, c'mon, Mr. Rectum certainly can't be a number... After all, he *is* a fucking asshole full of shit!
>
> (Of course, you are right ... not taking into account Mr. Rectum.)
>
> Ever read the famous paper "What numbers could not be" by Paul Benacerraf?

What have numbers got to do with it... Perhaps instead of what's love
got to do with it? ;^o

https://youtu.be/1avX1lX7gSs

lol!

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 by: Timothy Golden - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 14:25 UTC

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 5:32:31 PM UTC-4, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 17:14:20 UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes
> > > > > Nope.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > >
> > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > >
> > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> >
> > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> Yes, they're unbelievably stupid.
>
>
> >
> > BKK

I went back to the OP and I think it is well written. That said though, the play of rational numbers atop natural numbers; as if the two go together perfectly... It just offends the awareness of continuous versus discrete systems.

Interpretation of zero as either a discrete zero or a continuous zero could seem illuminating for somebody working the continuous side of things.

Adjacent to closure we could ponder reversibility of operations, and clearly the multiplication by zero destroys information. Some physicists seem to have committed to a conservation of information but I don't find that necessary. The ordinary accumulated physical state is beyond computation, while we should admit that it has abided the physical laws to arrive there, no matter how small the inputs on that system from the moon or from SagitariusA*, or a leaf on a tree the next hill over, for that matter. Rather than be frustrated and walk away forever from the hope of understanding physics; turning inward to pure mathematics and never ever looking outward again; Surely, Shirley, we should shut up and compute what we know to be uncomputable.... right?

The accumulation feels daunting. To wipe the slate clean and start afresh from scratch; now there seems a good way to go.
Confessing mathematicians don't give a damn about physics, while physicists plod along to reuse their structures religiously.
This supposedly makes perfect sense, so why upset the apple cart? It is just here that we encounter the first mental breakage. To observe that the number of apples on that cart is a discrete concept owing to a perception of the volume of the cart and a choice to study the apple as a species are rather relevant details and so this early on the breakage occurs. While the mathematician would happily add the four wheels of the cart onto the number of apples in the cart, it is the physicist who will disagree. The very notions of set theory and closure can take off from here.

It is in approaching large values that the first need of the zero arises, but it happens to work consistently with the free-standing zero.
I'm question the usage of zero as the origin. In P3 should I have written (x,x,x)=(0,0,0)? I still like 0=(0,0,0), but really the types are not commensurate. Notation does matter. Should I admit that (2.3,2.3,2.3)=(1.2,1.2)=0? This is certainly a no-go. Ahh, but the prior usage was of the zero in P3, so it's interpretation was still in P3, and of course the algebraic form is plenty good.

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 by: markus...@gmail.com - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 20:03 UTC

tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 23:30:15 UTC+2 skrev Fritz Feldhase:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 6:42:10 PM UTC+2, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> Oh, c'mon, Mr. Rectum certainly can't be a number... After all, he *is* a fucking asshole full of shit!
>
> (Of course, you are right ... not taking into account Mr. Rectum.)
>
> Ever read the famous paper "What numbers could not be" by Paul Benacerraf?
It's not a math paper. It's a philosophy paper. The paper doesn't really discuss what a number "is" and "can't be". He was arguing against platonism and for mathematical structuralism.

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 by: markus...@gmail.com - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 20:04 UTC

tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 23:14:20 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Really?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yes
> > > > Nope.
> > > >
> > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > >
> > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > >
> > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
>
> What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
>
> BKK
Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:46 UTC

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:04:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 23:14:20 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes
> > > > > Nope.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > >
> > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > >
> > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> >
> > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> >
> > BKK
> Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?

Aren't you trolling 🤔?

What happened to your brains mathematicians & alike?

Forget about your imaginations, and think about the space you are in!, and what one may ask is how far is that visible existing object, in short, one asks about the distance, then making an existing arbitrary distance as unity, & later numbering the distances, I.e, distance is a number before anything else, where then Geometry of the space arised as first intelligent beings mere knowledge, where numbering the distances uprised the number theory, which is mainly the whole mathematics about

And if one immagins the smallest unity distance, that isn't permissible to be fractioned, then you would end up again with only natural numbers, but so unfortunately, the smallest distance doesn't strictly exist except by human inforced choices for no mathematical purposes, where then, scientists & eingineers but never the mathematicians had invented simply all kinds of eingineering concepts like, limits, convergence, ..., etc

But how do the academic proffessional mathematicians do understand the truth of their mathematics that hadn't been invented by themselves?

The calculus for example is mostly eingineering & scientific works which is rarely relevant to mathematics

And what is a distance is only a constructible number (including the arbitrary existing distance), where nothing else is a number

Leave the true concept of number for the theoretical physicians mathematicians

But so unfortunately, true theoretical physicians don't exist yet 😕!
Good luck if you are able to comprehend anything from my lasting lessons

Bassam Karzeddin 👍

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 by: markus...@gmail.com - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:54 UTC

torsdag 7 september 2023 kl. 01:47:03 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:04:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 23:14:20 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes
> > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> > >
> > > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> > >
> > > BKK
> > Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?
> Aren't you trolling 🤔?
>
> What happened to your brains mathematicians & alike?
>
> Forget about your imaginations, and think about the space you are in!, and what one may ask is how far is that visible existing object, in short, one asks about the distance, then making an existing arbitrary distance as unity, & later numbering the distances, I.e, distance is a number before anything else, where then Geometry of the space arised as first intelligent beings mere knowledge, where numbering the distances uprised the number theory, which is mainly the whole mathematics about
>
> And if one immagins the smallest unity distance, that isn't permissible to be fractioned, then you would end up again with only natural numbers, but so unfortunately, the smallest distance doesn't strictly exist except by human inforced choices for no mathematical purposes, where then, scientists & eingineers but never the mathematicians had invented simply all kinds of eingineering concepts like, limits, convergence, ..., etc
>
> But how do the academic proffessional mathematicians do understand the truth of their mathematics that hadn't been invented by themselves?
>
> The calculus for example is mostly eingineering & scientific works which is rarely relevant to mathematics
>
> And what is a distance is only a constructible number (including the arbitrary existing distance), where nothing else is a number
>
> Leave the true concept of number for the theoretical physicians mathematicians
>
> But so unfortunately, true theoretical physicians don't exist yet 😕!
> Good luck if you are able to comprehend anything from my lasting lessons
>
> Bassam Karzeddin 👍
Why would I be trolling? 🌲 is just a symbol, as much as "1" is.

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 by: Eram semper recta - Thu, 7 Sep 2023 11:01 UTC

On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 19:55:05 UTC-4, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> torsdag 7 september 2023 kl. 01:47:03 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> > On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:04:10 PM UTC+3, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 23:14:20 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3, markus....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> > > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes
> > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > > > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> > > >
> > > > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> > > >
> > > > BKK
> > > Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?
> > Aren't you trolling 🤔?
> >
> > What happened to your brains mathematicians & alike?
> >
> > Forget about your imaginations, and think about the space you are in!, and what one may ask is how far is that visible existing object, in short, one asks about the distance, then making an existing arbitrary distance as unity, & later numbering the distances, I.e, distance is a number before anything else, where then Geometry of the space arised as first intelligent beings mere knowledge, where numbering the distances uprised the number theory, which is mainly the whole mathematics about
> >
> > And if one immagins the smallest unity distance, that isn't permissible to be fractioned, then you would end up again with only natural numbers, but so unfortunately, the smallest distance doesn't strictly exist except by human inforced choices for no mathematical purposes, where then, scientists & eingineers but never the mathematicians had invented simply all kinds of eingineering concepts like, limits, convergence, ..., etc
> >
> > But how do the academic proffessional mathematicians do understand the truth of their mathematics that hadn't been invented by themselves?
> >
> > The calculus for example is mostly eingineering & scientific works which is rarely relevant to mathematics
> >
> > And what is a distance is only a constructible number (including the arbitrary existing distance), where nothing else is a number
> >
> > Leave the true concept of number for the theoretical physicians mathematicians
> >
> > But so unfortunately, true theoretical physicians don't exist yet 😕!
> > Good luck if you are able to comprehend anything from my lasting lessons
> >
> > Bassam Karzeddin 👍
> Why would I be trolling? 🌲 is just a symbol, as much as "1" is..

💩💩💩 is just as much your brains as "0" is. LMAO

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torsdag 7 september 2023 kl. 13:01:56 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 19:55:05 UTC-4, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > torsdag 7 september 2023 kl. 01:47:03 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> > > On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:04:10 PM UTC+3, markus....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 23:14:20 UTC+2 skrev bassam karzeddin:
> > > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:42:10 PM UTC+3, markus....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > tisdag 5 september 2023 kl. 18:35:36 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> > > > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 20:42:24 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:27:47 AM UTC+2, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 15:45:46 UTC-4, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:33:57 PM UTC+2, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes
> > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > > > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > > > > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> > > > >
> > > > > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> > > > >
> > > > > BKK
> > > > Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?
> > > Aren't you trolling 🤔?
> > >
> > > What happened to your brains mathematicians & alike?
> > >
> > > Forget about your imaginations, and think about the space you are in!, and what one may ask is how far is that visible existing object, in short, one asks about the distance, then making an existing arbitrary distance as unity, & later numbering the distances, I.e, distance is a number before anything else, where then Geometry of the space arised as first intelligent beings mere knowledge, where numbering the distances uprised the number theory, which is mainly the whole mathematics about
> > >
> > > And if one immagins the smallest unity distance, that isn't permissible to be fractioned, then you would end up again with only natural numbers, but so unfortunately, the smallest distance doesn't strictly exist except by human inforced choices for no mathematical purposes, where then, scientists & eingineers but never the mathematicians had invented simply all kinds of eingineering concepts like, limits, convergence, ..., etc
> > >
> > > But how do the academic proffessional mathematicians do understand the truth of their mathematics that hadn't been invented by themselves?
> > >
> > > The calculus for example is mostly eingineering & scientific works which is rarely relevant to mathematics
> > >
> > > And what is a distance is only a constructible number (including the arbitrary existing distance), where nothing else is a number
> > >
> > > Leave the true concept of number for the theoretical physicians mathematicians
> > >
> > > But so unfortunately, true theoretical physicians don't exist yet 😕!
> > > Good luck if you are able to comprehend anything from my lasting lessons
> > >
> > > Bassam Karzeddin 👍
> > Why would I be trolling? 🌲 is just a symbol, as much as "1" is.
> 💩💩💩 is just as much your brains as "0" is. LMAO
Mature.

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On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 12:27:20 UTC-4, markus..
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yes
> > > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > > > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > > > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > > > > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > > > > > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BKK
> > > > > Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?
> > > > Aren't you trolling 🤔?
> > > >
> > > > What happened to your brains mathematicians & alike?
> > > >
> > > > Forget about your imaginations, and think about the space you are in!, and what one may ask is how far is that visible existing object, in short, one asks about the distance, then making an existing arbitrary distance as unity, & later numbering the distances, I.e, distance is a number before anything else, where then Geometry of the space arised as first intelligent beings mere knowledge, where numbering the distances uprised the number theory, which is mainly the whole mathematics about
> > > >
> > > > And if one immagins the smallest unity distance, that isn't permissible to be fractioned, then you would end up again with only natural numbers, but so unfortunately, the smallest distance doesn't strictly exist except by human inforced choices for no mathematical purposes, where then, scientists & eingineers but never the mathematicians had invented simply all kinds of eingineering concepts like, limits, convergence, ..., etc
> > > >
> > > > But how do the academic proffessional mathematicians do understand the truth of their mathematics that hadn't been invented by themselves?
> > > >
> > > > The calculus for example is mostly eingineering & scientific works which is rarely relevant to mathematics
> > > >
> > > > And what is a distance is only a constructible number (including the arbitrary existing distance), where nothing else is a number
> > > >
> > > > Leave the true concept of number for the theoretical physicians mathematicians
> > > >
> > > > But so unfortunately, true theoretical physicians don't exist yet 😕!
> > > > Good luck if you are able to comprehend anything from my lasting lessons
> > > >
> > > > Bassam Karzeddin 👍
> > > Why would I be trolling? 🌲 is just a symbol, as much as "1" is.
> > 💩💩💩 is just as much your brains as "0" is. LMAO
> Mature.

💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩
You are not mature and don't understand any other language.

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 by: markus...@gmail.com - Thu, 7 Sep 2023 21:07 UTC

torsdag 7 september 2023 kl. 19:41:15 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 12:27:20 UTC-4, markus..
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Zero is no integer
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Really?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes
> > > > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hint: "An integer is the number zero (0), a positive natural number (1, 2, 3, etc.) or a negative integer with a minus sign (−1, −2, −3, etc.)." (Wikipedia)
> > > > > > > > > What does zero measure besides the volume of your brain? Hm, nothing else I think.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Since your brain is not important and we have a word for NONE and NOTHING, we can simply use those words rather than pretend to 'quantify' using "zero".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Get a grip, you psychotic asshole full of shit.
> > > > > > > > > Rip your head off, you fucking stupid monkey!
> > > > > > > > I mean, the whole discussion is kinda meaningless since anything can be a number.
> > > > > > > Even a 🌳 tree is a number for you mathematickers, where then every academic Troll 🧌 can play as much as (she/ he/ it) can, so let everything be a number & make it so easy catch for every mentally retarded mathematicians with their freely available "axioms of choices "
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What typo of morons we have in plenty & globally in this utter century 🙄?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BKK
> > > > > > Yes, a tree could be a "number" I guess. What's the problem?
> > > > > Aren't you trolling 🤔?
> > > > >
> > > > > What happened to your brains mathematicians & alike?
> > > > >
> > > > > Forget about your imaginations, and think about the space you are in!, and what one may ask is how far is that visible existing object, in short, one asks about the distance, then making an existing arbitrary distance as unity, & later numbering the distances, I.e, distance is a number before anything else, where then Geometry of the space arised as first intelligent beings mere knowledge, where numbering the distances uprised the number theory, which is mainly the whole mathematics about
> > > > >
> > > > > And if one immagins the smallest unity distance, that isn't permissible to be fractioned, then you would end up again with only natural numbers, but so unfortunately, the smallest distance doesn't strictly exist except by human inforced choices for no mathematical purposes, where then, scientists & eingineers but never the mathematicians had invented simply all kinds of eingineering concepts like, limits, convergence, ..., etc
> > > > >
> > > > > But how do the academic proffessional mathematicians do understand the truth of their mathematics that hadn't been invented by themselves?
> > > > >
> > > > > The calculus for example is mostly eingineering & scientific works which is rarely relevant to mathematics
> > > > >
> > > > > And what is a distance is only a constructible number (including the arbitrary existing distance), where nothing else is a number
> > > > >
> > > > > Leave the true concept of number for the theoretical physicians mathematicians
> > > > >
> > > > > But so unfortunately, true theoretical physicians don't exist yet 😕!
> > > > > Good luck if you are able to comprehend anything from my lasting lessons
> > > > >
> > > > > Bassam Karzeddin 👍
> > > > Why would I be trolling? 🌲 is just a symbol, as much as "1" is.
> > > 💩💩💩 is just as much your brains as "0" is. LMAO
> > Mature.
> 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩 💩💩💩
> You are not mature and don't understand any other language.
Evidently more mature than a 60 year old man.

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Earle <earle.jones@comcast.net> writes:
> On Mon Sep 4 10:33:51 2023 bassam karzeddin wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:30:37.

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