We've all seen enough savanna vs. aquatic stupidity. Let's take a break from these lame non-arguments and see what transpires when a real scientist considers human evolution.

Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious
by James McGinn / Genius

Turning us all into liars and brain-dead believers, the subconscious evolved as a means by which we maintain our ability to be reprogrammed with a new ideology. Human's are not rational but are hyper-pseudo rational, meaning that we have a deep emotional attachment to the belief in the absolute certainty of our ideological beliefs.

Human's are programmed through culture to have an ideology that comes part and parcel with an attitude to ownership of resources, especially territorial resources. This programming enabled our earliest communities to adjust to changes in level of scarcity/wealth in the context of dramatic annual shifts in level of scarcity/wealth as a result of dramatic shifts in level of rainfall in the monsoon habitat that emerged in east Africa about 7 million years ago.

Human communities were in competition with one another to maintain resources, keep migrating species from destroying their water supply and eating their garden resources, and to keep predators at bay. Failure could often result in extinction or at least the decimation of whole communities during the depths of the dry season. But these earliest hominid communities were rarely at war with one another. Instead, all communities were in a constant state of war against all other species with which they competed for often scarce resources.

Language, logic, and consciousness all emerged as part of communities overall strategy for our earliest pre-hominid ancestors to collectively achieve shifts in ideological perspective and, thereby, adjust to changes in level of scarcity/wealth in the context of dramatic annual shifts thereof, in order to maintain possession of protected territorial resources to survive the deadly dry season.

Us humans live our whole lives under the spell of a delusion that we are rational. We are capable of being logical, but logic actually evolved as a tool to achieve programming. Specifically, we use logic as a tool for story telling. And storytelling is the means by which we achieve programming and reprogramming of ideological perspective.

The currently popular Tool-using hunter/gatherer hypothesis is nonsense. Humans evolved logic and rational abilities as a means to achieve storytelling. It would take millions of years of human evolution before our ability to use logic had evolved enough sophistication that we would could start discovering the benefits of tools and tool making.

In addition to being communally territorial, our ancestors have been agricultural over the full breadth of human evolution. We have also always been warriors. Agriculture and war were the same thing. We used rocks and sticks to collectively maintain territorial resources against the constant onslaught of in-migrating species who if not stopped would destroy the community's resources that it depended on to survive the deadly dry season. The evolution of a vertical stance in the earliest years of hominid evolution was instrumental in enabling us to be better rock throwing, stick wielding, noise making pest control agriculturalist.

The mistake that everybody makes when they get involved in scientific discussions and witness the unrelenting intellectual dishonesty in others is to assume that others are not witnessing the same in themselves. We are all liars, caught in the spell of our ideological delusions. And our subconscious protects us from any realization that would break the spell.

James McGinn / Genius
https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3

tirsdag den 22. juni 2021 kl. 19.11.25 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> We've all seen enough savanna vs. aquatic stupidity. Let's take a break from these lame non-arguments and see what transpires when a real scientist considers human evolution.
>
> Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious
> by James McGinn / Genius
>
> Turning us all into liars and brain-dead believers, the subconscious evolved as a means by which we maintain our ability to be reprogrammed with a new ideology. Human's are not rational but are hyper-pseudo rational, meaning that we have a deep emotional attachment to the belief in the absolute certainty of our ideological beliefs.
>
> Human's are programmed through culture to have an ideology that comes part and parcel with an attitude to ownership of resources, especially territorial resources. This programming enabled our earliest communities to adjust to changes in level of scarcity/wealth in the context of dramatic annual shifts in level of scarcity/wealth as a result of dramatic shifts in level of rainfall in the monsoon habitat that emerged in east Africa about 7 million years ago.
>
> Human communities were in competition with one another to maintain resources, keep migrating species from destroying their water supply and eating their garden resources, and to keep predators at bay. Failure could often result in extinction or at least the decimation of whole communities during the depths of the dry season. But these earliest hominid communities were rarely at war with one another. Instead, all communities were in a constant state of war against all other species with which they competed for often scarce resources.
>
> Language, logic, and consciousness all emerged as part of communities overall strategy for our earliest pre-hominid ancestors to collectively achieve shifts in ideological perspective and, thereby, adjust to changes in level of scarcity/wealth in the context of dramatic annual shifts thereof, in order to maintain possession of protected territorial resources to survive the deadly dry season.
>
> Us humans live our whole lives under the spell of a delusion that we are rational. We are capable of being logical, but logic actually evolved as a tool to achieve programming. Specifically, we use logic as a tool for story telling. And storytelling is the means by which we achieve programming and reprogramming of ideological perspective.
>
> The currently popular Tool-using hunter/gatherer hypothesis is nonsense. Humans evolved logic and rational abilities as a means to achieve storytelling. It would take millions of years of human evolution before our ability to use logic had evolved enough sophistication that we would could start discovering the benefits of tools and tool making.
>
> In addition to being communally territorial, our ancestors have been agricultural over the full breadth of human evolution. We have also always been warriors. Agriculture and war were the same thing. We used rocks and sticks to collectively maintain territorial resources against the constant onslaught of in-migrating species who if not stopped would destroy the community's resources that it depended on to survive the deadly dry season. The evolution of a vertical stance in the earliest years of hominid evolution was instrumental in enabling us to be better rock throwing, stick wielding, noise making pest control agriculturalist.
>
> The mistake that everybody makes when they get involved in scientific discussions and witness the unrelenting intellectual dishonesty in others is to assume that others are not witnessing the same in themselves. We are all liars, caught in the spell of our ideological delusions. And our subconscious protects us from any realization that would break the spell.
>
> James McGinn / Genius
> https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3

We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:

> > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/

I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)

James McGinn / Genius
https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
>
> > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> >
> > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> James McGinn / Genius
> https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3

You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> >
> > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > >
> > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > James McGinn / Genius
> > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.

In contrast, you appear mildly confused.

James McGinn / Genius
https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > >
> > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > >
> > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> James McGinn / Genius
> https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3

You bet your ass I am.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > James McGinn / Genius
> > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> You bet your ass I am.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males

This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.

James McGinn / Genius

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 03.02.19 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > You bet your ass I am.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males
> This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.
>
> James McGinn / Genius

Raymond Dart's is not completely gone. There are only two social species on all of planet Earth that gang up to hunt down and kill members of its own species. And in both cases, almost all of the individuals doing all that killing in a fit of psychopathic frenzy are males. And those two species just happens to be each other's closest cousins in the tree of life: Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes. War is most definitely a boy's game, wouldn't you agree? And its obvious, what the hell is the ethological purpose: To win the mating rights to the fertile females. The war hero is always entitled to the belle of the ball, either on foreign soil or coming home from the battlefield.

There's no particular difference between the mating behavior in these two species:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
All war is about sex. From Helen of Troy to Eva Braun.

That's one strangely self destructive mating ethology for the peak of evolution to have, 'cause it's using its big brain to create more and more destructive weaponry. And now it has fission bombs. It'll only take four minutes for a random psychopath on the pull out of the wrong palace to cause the sixth mass extinction on Planet Earth. Our vilent mating behaviour will be what will cause our extinction.

Albert Camus said it best:
"C'est absurd!"

This particular violent sex thing has nothing to do with water or not in human evolution, 'cause this self-destructive behavioral trait must have been present in a last common ancestor between those two apes, because both male humans and male chimps slaughter other male humans and male chimps in the fight for furthering their genes.

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:27:18 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 03.02.19 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > > > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > You bet your ass I am.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males
> > This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.
> >
> > James McGinn / Genius
> Raymond Dart's is not completely gone. There are only two social species on all of planet Earth that gang up to hunt down and kill members of its own species. And in both cases, almost all of the individuals doing all that killing in a fit of psychopathic frenzy are males. And those two species just happens to be each other's closest cousins in the tree of life: Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes. War is most definitely a boy's game, wouldn't you agree? And its obvious, what the hell is the ethological purpose: To win the mating rights to the fertile females. The war hero is always entitled to the belle of the ball, either on foreign soil or coming home from the battlefield.
>
> There's no particular difference between the mating behavior in these two species:
> https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
> All war is about sex. From Helen of Troy to Eva Braun.
>
> That's one strangely self destructive mating ethology for the peak of evolution to have, 'cause it's using its big brain to create more and more destructive weaponry. And now it has fission bombs. It'll only take four minutes for a random psychopath on the pull out of the wrong palace to cause the sixth mass extinction on Planet Earth. Our vilent mating behaviour will be what will cause our extinction.
>
> Albert Camus said it best:
> "C'est absurd!"
>
> This particular violent sex thing has nothing to do with water or not in human evolution, 'cause this self-destructive behavioral trait must have been present in a last common ancestor between those two apes, because both male humans and male chimps slaughter other male humans and male chimps in the fight for furthering their genes.

Yeah, so? What is your point here and what does it have to do with how we evolved to the intellectually complex species we are. Seriously. Answer my question. What is the relevance of your comparison?

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 04.02.43 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:27:18 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 03.02.19 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected.. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > > > > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > You bet your ass I am.
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males
> > > This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.
> > >
> > > James McGinn / Genius
> > Raymond Dart's is not completely gone. There are only two social species on all of planet Earth that gang up to hunt down and kill members of its own species. And in both cases, almost all of the individuals doing all that killing in a fit of psychopathic frenzy are males. And those two species just happens to be each other's closest cousins in the tree of life: Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes. War is most definitely a boy's game, wouldn't you agree? And its obvious, what the hell is the ethological purpose: To win the mating rights to the fertile females. The war hero is always entitled to the belle of the ball, either on foreign soil or coming home from the battlefield.
> >
> > There's no particular difference between the mating behavior in these two species:
> > https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
> > All war is about sex. From Helen of Troy to Eva Braun.
> >
> > That's one strangely self destructive mating ethology for the peak of evolution to have, 'cause it's using its big brain to create more and more destructive weaponry. And now it has fission bombs. It'll only take four minutes for a random psychopath on the pull out of the wrong palace to cause the sixth mass extinction on Planet Earth. Our vilent mating behaviour will be what will cause our extinction.
> >
> > Albert Camus said it best:
> > "C'est absurd!"
> >
> > This particular violent sex thing has nothing to do with water or not in human evolution, 'cause this self-destructive behavioral trait must have been present in a last common ancestor between those two apes, because both male humans and male chimps slaughter other male humans and male chimps in the fight for furthering their genes.
> Yeah, so? What is your point here and what does it have to do with how we evolved to the intellectually complex species we are. Seriously. Answer my question. What is the relevance of your comparison?

That Raymond Dart's violent apes is not completely out of the equation. But much of what he was suggesting is shared between humans and chimps, so that can't be because of more or less intellectualism, whether originally fueled by saltwater fauna seafood or not.

Our intellect is heavily over rated anyway. Especially since we're not even the hominin with the largest brain-to-body mass ratio. That was the Neanderthal.

That's right. The average adult Neanderthal had a larger brain than the average Homo sapiens living both back then and today. Plus Homo sapiens have lost about ~100cc of brain volume the last some 40,000 years. Which is likely when as a species, we left the coastlines to hunt more and more big game, which more and more has cost us the access to the micronutrients (DHA, iodine) that gave us that big brain in the first place.

Intellect in itself has no direct survival and selection benefit. Securing of calories does.

I think that was my point.

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 04.34.27 UTC+2 skrev C. H. Engelbrecht:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 04.02.43 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:27:18 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 03.02.19 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > > > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > > > > > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > You bet your ass I am.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males
> > > > This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.
> > > >
> > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > Raymond Dart's is not completely gone. There are only two social species on all of planet Earth that gang up to hunt down and kill members of its own species. And in both cases, almost all of the individuals doing all that killing in a fit of psychopathic frenzy are males. And those two species just happens to be each other's closest cousins in the tree of life: Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes. War is most definitely a boy's game, wouldn't you agree? And its obvious, what the hell is the ethological purpose: To win the mating rights to the fertile females. The war hero is always entitled to the belle of the ball, either on foreign soil or coming home from the battlefield.
> > >
> > > There's no particular difference between the mating behavior in these two species:
> > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
> > > All war is about sex. From Helen of Troy to Eva Braun.
> > >
> > > That's one strangely self destructive mating ethology for the peak of evolution to have, 'cause it's using its big brain to create more and more destructive weaponry. And now it has fission bombs. It'll only take four minutes for a random psychopath on the pull out of the wrong palace to cause the sixth mass extinction on Planet Earth. Our vilent mating behaviour will be what will cause our extinction.
> > >
> > > Albert Camus said it best:
> > > "C'est absurd!"
> > >
> > > This particular violent sex thing has nothing to do with water or not in human evolution, 'cause this self-destructive behavioral trait must have been present in a last common ancestor between those two apes, because both male humans and male chimps slaughter other male humans and male chimps in the fight for furthering their genes.
> > Yeah, so? What is your point here and what does it have to do with how we evolved to the intellectually complex species we are. Seriously. Answer my question. What is the relevance of your comparison?
> That Raymond Dart's violent apes is not completely out of the equation. But much of what he was suggesting is shared between humans and chimps, so that can't be because of more or less intellectualism, whether originally fueled by saltwater fauna seafood or not.
>
> Our intellect is heavily over rated anyway. Especially since we're not even the hominin with the largest brain-to-body mass ratio. That was the Neanderthal.
>
> That's right. The average adult Neanderthal had a larger brain than the average Homo sapiens living both back then and today. Plus Homo sapiens have lost about ~100cc of brain volume the last some 40,000 years. Which is likely when as a species, we left the coastlines to hunt more and more big game, which more and more has cost us the access to the micronutrients (DHA, iodine) that gave us that big brain in the first place.
>
> Intellect in itself has no direct survival and selection benefit. Securing of calories does.
>
> I think that was my point.

That F'ed you up too, didn't it? That's what happens when you _do_ apply real science to human evolution without taking the piss.

https://medium.com/@RobertBurriss/are-psychopaths-sexy-b569a32ba4d1

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 7:34:27 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 04.02.43 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:27:18 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 03.02.19 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > > > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > > > > > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > You bet your ass I am.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males
> > > > This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.
> > > >
> > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > Raymond Dart's is not completely gone. There are only two social species on all of planet Earth that gang up to hunt down and kill members of its own species. And in both cases, almost all of the individuals doing all that killing in a fit of psychopathic frenzy are males. And those two species just happens to be each other's closest cousins in the tree of life: Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes. War is most definitely a boy's game, wouldn't you agree? And its obvious, what the hell is the ethological purpose: To win the mating rights to the fertile females. The war hero is always entitled to the belle of the ball, either on foreign soil or coming home from the battlefield.
> > >
> > > There's no particular difference between the mating behavior in these two species:
> > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
> > > All war is about sex. From Helen of Troy to Eva Braun.
> > >
> > > That's one strangely self destructive mating ethology for the peak of evolution to have, 'cause it's using its big brain to create more and more destructive weaponry. And now it has fission bombs. It'll only take four minutes for a random psychopath on the pull out of the wrong palace to cause the sixth mass extinction on Planet Earth. Our vilent mating behaviour will be what will cause our extinction.
> > >
> > > Albert Camus said it best:
> > > "C'est absurd!"
> > >
> > > This particular violent sex thing has nothing to do with water or not in human evolution, 'cause this self-destructive behavioral trait must have been present in a last common ancestor between those two apes, because both male humans and male chimps slaughter other male humans and male chimps in the fight for furthering their genes.
> > Yeah, so? What is your point here and what does it have to do with how we evolved to the intellectually complex species we are. Seriously. Answer my question. What is the relevance of your comparison?
> That Raymond Dart's violent apes is not completely out of the equation.

It's irrelevant.

But much of what he was suggesting is shared between humans and chimps,

Right. So it's useless for explaining our differences.

so that can't be because of more or less intellectualism,

What are you talking about?

whether originally fueled by saltwater fauna seafood or not.

Aquatic ape stupidity. Useless.
>
> Our intellect is heavily over rated anyway.

So, since you can't explain it you find a way to dismiss it. That's bad science.

Especially since we're not even the hominin with the largest brain-to-body mass ratio. That was the Neanderthal.

Relevance?
>
> That's right. The average adult Neanderthal had a larger brain than the average Homo sapiens living both back then and today. Plus Homo sapiens have lost about ~100cc of brain volume the last some 40,000 years. Which is likely when as a species, we left the coastlines to hunt more and more big game, which more and more has cost us the access to the micronutrients (DHA, iodine) that gave us that big brain in the first place.

You are just looking for excuses not to make sense of what we observe. You are not doing science. You are making excuses for not to think.

>
> Intellect in itself has no direct survival and selection benefit. Securing of calories does.

Neither here nor there.

>
> I think that was my point.

You don't have a real point.

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 10.04.32 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 7:34:27 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 04.02.43 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:27:18 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 03.02.19 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 02.28.24 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 01.45.08 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > > > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
> > > > > > > > > I honestly don't think so. I think we just need the behavior of displaying emotions and being able to understand the deeper meaning of emotional displays of others in our vicinity. I think these behaviors and abilities are already in the repertoire of many species. What is distinctive about hominids is that the level of selection shifted up to the community as a whole. If they were successful in keeping the inmigrating species from getting in then the community as a whole survived. And if not then the community as a whole was exterminated, extincted, during the dry season and its brutal predatory realities. It is these unique selective factors that caused those with larger brains and amplified cultural abilities to be selected. The idea being that communities that could better and more accurately collectively achieve adjustments in the collective attitudes to wealth/scarcity would have a huge selective advantage relative to communities that were less able in this respect because the incentives and risks were more evenly spread throughout the population making the community less of a target in the eyes of the inmigrating species. (Keep in mind that the inmigrating species are just looking for the path of least resistance to get to food and water to survive the dry season.)
> > > > > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > > > You're the most elaborate troll I've ever met.
> > > > > > > In contrast, you appear mildly confused.
> > > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > > > https://anchor.fm/james-mcginn/episodes/The-religion-that-science-has-become-and-the-realization-of-vortice-plasma-ehrkj3
> > > > > > You bet your ass I am.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_Males
> > > > > This is a silly non theory. Hominid evolution began when the climate shifted, introducing a significant dry season. This is the only environmental event that can possibly describe how selective factors shifted to the whole community. Without this there is no mechanism for communication/cooperation, intelligence/consciousness, and culture/ideology to have started to become selectively advantageous to start us down the evolutionary pathway to become what we actually are. What you have here is no different than Ramond Darts angry monkey hypothesis. Humans are so different from anything predicted by Wranghams vague speculations.
> > > > >
> > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > Raymond Dart's is not completely gone. There are only two social species on all of planet Earth that gang up to hunt down and kill members of its own species. And in both cases, almost all of the individuals doing all that killing in a fit of psychopathic frenzy are males. And those two species just happens to be each other's closest cousins in the tree of life: Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes. War is most definitely a boy's game, wouldn't you agree? And its obvious, what the hell is the ethological purpose: To win the mating rights to the fertile females. The war hero is always entitled to the belle of the ball, either on foreign soil or coming home from the battlefield.
> > > >
> > > > There's no particular difference between the mating behavior in these two species:
> > > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
> > > > All war is about sex. From Helen of Troy to Eva Braun.
> > > >
> > > > That's one strangely self destructive mating ethology for the peak of evolution to have, 'cause it's using its big brain to create more and more destructive weaponry. And now it has fission bombs. It'll only take four minutes for a random psychopath on the pull out of the wrong palace to cause the sixth mass extinction on Planet Earth. Our vilent mating behaviour will be what will cause our extinction.
> > > >
> > > > Albert Camus said it best:
> > > > "C'est absurd!"
> > > >
> > > > This particular violent sex thing has nothing to do with water or not in human evolution, 'cause this self-destructive behavioral trait must have been present in a last common ancestor between those two apes, because both male humans and male chimps slaughter other male humans and male chimps in the fight for furthering their genes.
> > > Yeah, so? What is your point here and what does it have to do with how we evolved to the intellectually complex species we are. Seriously. Answer my question. What is the relevance of your comparison?
> > That Raymond Dart's violent apes is not completely out of the equation.
> It's irrelevant.
> But much of what he was suggesting is shared between humans and chimps,
> Right. So it's useless for explaining our differences.
> so that can't be because of more or less intellectualism,
> What are you talking about?
> whether originally fueled by saltwater fauna seafood or not.
> Aquatic ape stupidity. Useless.
> >
> > Our intellect is heavily over rated anyway.
> So, since you can't explain it you find a way to dismiss it. That's bad science.
> Especially since we're not even the hominin with the largest brain-to-body mass ratio. That was the Neanderthal.
> Relevance?
> >
> > That's right. The average adult Neanderthal had a larger brain than the average Homo sapiens living both back then and today. Plus Homo sapiens have lost about ~100cc of brain volume the last some 40,000 years. Which is likely when as a species, we left the coastlines to hunt more and more big game, which more and more has cost us the access to the micronutrients (DHA, iodine) that gave us that big brain in the first place.
> You are just looking for excuses not to make sense of what we observe. You are not doing science. You are making excuses for not to think.
> >
> > Intellect in itself has no direct survival and selection benefit. Securing of calories does.
> Neither here nor there.
> >
> > I think that was my point.
> You don't have a real point.

Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:

> > > I think that was my point.
> > You don't have a real point.
> Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
>
> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg

You got nothing.

James McGinn / Genius

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 11.13.35 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
>
> > > > I think that was my point.
> > > You don't have a real point.
> > Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
> >
> > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg
> You got nothing.
>
> James McGinn / Genius

Now it's just getting uninspired. No dopamine for you.

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 6:35:02 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 11.13.35 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> >
> > > > > I think that was my point.
> > > > You don't have a real point.
> > > Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
> > >
> > > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg
> > You got nothing.
> >
> > James McGinn / Genius
> Now it's just getting uninspired. No dopamine for you.

Yes, it always devolves into some kind of ass scratching hypothesis of human evolution followed by the wet and dry versions thereof. Oh, well, for a few moments there we actually had a modicum of intelligent conversations. I suppose that is better than most.

Goodbye dumbass.

James McGinn / Genius

onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 16.32.28 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 6:35:02 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 11.13.35 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > I think that was my point.
> > > > > You don't have a real point.
> > > > Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
> > > >
> > > > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg
> > > You got nothing.
> > >
> > > James McGinn / Genius
> > Now it's just getting uninspired. No dopamine for you.
> Yes, it always devolves into some kind of ass scratching hypothesis of human evolution followed by the wet and dry versions thereof. Oh, well, for a few moments there we actually had a modicum of intelligent conversations. I suppose that is better than most.
>
> Goodbye dumbass.
>
> James McGinn / Genius

You still put too much emphasis on hominin intellect. Trust me, in terms of selection and survival, it's overrated.

On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 9:16:19 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 16.32.28 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 6:35:02 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 11.13.35 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > I think that was my point.
> > > > > > You don't have a real point.
> > > > > Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg
> > > > You got nothing.
> > > >
> > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > Now it's just getting uninspired. No dopamine for you.
> > Yes, it always devolves into some kind of ass scratching hypothesis of human evolution followed by the wet and dry versions thereof. Oh, well, for a few moments there we actually had a modicum of intelligent conversations.. I suppose that is better than most.
> >
> > Goodbye dumbass.
> >
> > James McGinn / Genius
> You still put too much emphasis on hominin intellect. Trust me, in terms of selection and survival, it's overrated.

I correctly attribute intellect to being a tool to achieve ideological reprogramming through culture. During periods of abundance (rainy season) hominids compete against other members of our community. During periods of scarcity (dry season) we cooperate with other members of our community.

torsdag den 24. juni 2021 kl. 19.48.14 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 9:16:19 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 16.32.28 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 6:35:02 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 11.13.35 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think that was my point.
> > > > > > > You don't have a real point.
> > > > > > Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg
> > > > > You got nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > Now it's just getting uninspired. No dopamine for you.
> > > Yes, it always devolves into some kind of ass scratching hypothesis of human evolution followed by the wet and dry versions thereof. Oh, well, for a few moments there we actually had a modicum of intelligent conversations. I suppose that is better than most.
> > >
> > > Goodbye dumbass.
> > >
> > > James McGinn / Genius
> > You still put too much emphasis on hominin intellect. Trust me, in terms of selection and survival, it's overrated.
> I correctly attribute intellect to being a tool to achieve ideological reprogramming through culture. During periods of abundance (rainy season) hominids compete against other members of our community. During periods of scarcity (dry season) we cooperate with other members of our community.

And what does cognitive power really have to do with all of that?

On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> torsdag den 24. juni 2021 kl. 19.48.14 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 9:16:19 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 16.32.28 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 6:35:02 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > onsdag den 23. juni 2021 kl. 11.13.35 UTC+2 skrev jimmc...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-7, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think that was my point.
> > > > > > > > You don't have a real point.
> > > > > > > Now you're completely lost, ain't you? Your trolling just completely collapsed. Don't feel down, it always happens.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9rpmrDeelk/hqdefault.jpg
> > > > > > You got nothing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > > > Now it's just getting uninspired. No dopamine for you.
> > > > Yes, it always devolves into some kind of ass scratching hypothesis of human evolution followed by the wet and dry versions thereof. Oh, well, for a few moments there we actually had a modicum of intelligent conversations. I suppose that is better than most.
> > > >
> > > > Goodbye dumbass.
> > > >
> > > > James McGinn / Genius
> > > You still put too much emphasis on hominin intellect. Trust me, in terms of selection and survival, it's overrated.
> > I correctly attribute intellect to being a tool to achieve ideological reprogramming through culture. During periods of abundance (rainy season) hominids compete against other members of our community. During periods of scarcity (dry season) we cooperate with other members of our community.
> And what does cognitive power really have to do with all of that?
Everything.

Op dinsdag 22 juni 2021 om 19:11:25 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:
> We've all seen enough savanna vs. aquatic stupidity. Let's take a break from these lame non-arguments and see what transpires when a real scientist considers human evolution.
> Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious
> by James McGinn / Genius
> Turning us all into liars and brain-dead believers, the subconscious evolved as a means by which we maintain our ability to be reprogrammed with a new ideology. Human's are not rational but are hyper-pseudo rational, meaning that we have a deep emotional attachment to the belief in the absolute certainty of our ideological beliefs. ...

Etc.

A real scientist??? :-D

littor...@gmail.com wrote:

> A real scientist??? :-D

He's a brain surgeon, or a streetcar conductor. One of those.
Either way he was the 2021 recipient of the Greta van Derp
award for achievement in science.

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/694526964376190976

Op woensdag 23 juni 2021 om 01:18:10 UTC+2 schreef C. H. Engelbrecht:

> > We've all seen enough savanna vs. aquatic stupidity. Let's take a break from these lame non-arguments and see what transpires when a real scientist considers human evolution.
....

> We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/

Yes, obviously.
When real scientists consider ape & human evolution, the results are obvious to all other real scientists,
comparative biology leaves no doubt: google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

Op woensdag 7 september 2022 om 00:08:50 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
> Op woensdag 23 juni 2021 om 01:18:10 UTC+2 schreef C. H. Engelbrecht:

> > > We've all seen enough savanna vs. aquatic stupidity. Let's take a break from these lame non-arguments and see what transpires when a real scientist considers human evolution.

> > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/

> Yes, obviously.
> When real scientists consider ape & human evolution, the results are obvious to all other real scientists,
> comparative biology leaves no doubt: google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323832499_Coastal_Dispersal_of_Pleistocene_Homo

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op woensdag 7 september 2022 om 00:08:50 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
> > Op woensdag 23 juni 2021 om 01:18:10 UTC+2 schreef C. H. Engelbrecht:
>
> > > > We've all seen enough savanna vs. aquatic stupidity. Let's take a break from these lame non-arguments and see what transpires when a real scientist considers human evolution.
> > > We still need a big brain before we can do any of that.
> > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16828044/
>
> > Yes, obviously.
> > When real scientists consider ape & human evolution, the results are obvious to all other real scientists,
> > comparative biology leaves no doubt: google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323832499_Coastal_Dispersal_of_Pleistocene_Homo

Big brain & thick skull = Central India Narmada Man.