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Just wondering...

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 by: Dan Christensen - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 17:22 UTC

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 2:11:40 AM UTC-4, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> fredag 8 september 2023 kl. 00:22:18 UTC+2 skrev Dan Christensen:
> > Just wondering...
> Yes. I'm in my 20s.

Thanks.

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 by: Dan Christensen - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 02:28 UTC

No one else???

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 by: Dan Christensen - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 13:41 UTC

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:28:12 PM UTC-4, Dan Christensen wrote:
> No one else???

The target of audience of the various math trolls here (you know who your are) would appear to be nowhere to be found at sci.math. Anyone over 40 years of age (or even 15 years of age?), will be extremely unlikely to adopt your crackpot theories presented here. Maybe you would do better to stand outside junior high schools handing out printed copies of your various math manifestos? Just a thought.

Dan

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 by: Earle - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 23:03 UTC

On Fri Sep 8 10:22:49 2023 Dan Christensen wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 2:11:40AM UTC-4, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > fredag 8 september 2023 kl. 00:22:18 UTC+2 skrev Dan Christensen:
> > > Just wondering...
> > Yes. I'm in my 20s.
>
> Thanks.
* Dan: I was 40 in 1971. Do the math!

earle
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 by: Fritz Feldhase - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 23:19 UTC

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 12:22:18 AM UTC+2, Dan Christensen wrote:

> Just wondering...

I'm 6 years old.

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On 9/7/2023 6:20 PM, Dan Christensen wrote:

> Just wondering...

I was born in the early Anthropocene,
before space elevators,
before planetary colonization,
before re-wilding Earth.

When I was young,
we _burned petroleum_ for energy.
I kid you not.

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 by: markus...@gmail.com - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 00:55 UTC

söndag 10 september 2023 kl. 01:31:06 UTC+2 skrev Archimedes Plutonium:
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>
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 by: Kevin S - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 09:44 UTC

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:28:12 AM UTC+2, Dan Christensen wrote:
> No one else???

mentally 12, if that counts

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 12:06 UTC

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 1:22:18 AM UTC+3, Dan Christensen wrote:
> Just wondering...

Trollhood is infact global & strictly & more clearly in mathematics, where it is never relevant ro age, since it is basically too old since the start of human mathematical knowledge where raremly something true in mathematics like for instance the Phythagorus theorem, then No wonders at all to see here for example many too young & too old Trolls, where the issue of this vary old & global trollhood in mathematics is infact inhireted, & physiologically incurable for sure

Bassam karzeddin

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 by: Dan Christensen - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:03 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:06:49 AM UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 1:22:18 AM UTC+3, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > Just wondering...
> Trollhood is infact global & strictly & more clearly in mathematics, where it is never relevant ro age, since it is basically too old since the start of human mathematical knowledge where raremly something true in mathematics like for instance the Phythagorus theorem, then No wonders at all to see here for example many too young & too old Trolls, where the issue of this vary old & global trollhood in mathematics is infact inhireted, & physiologically incurable for sure
>

Bottom line: If you want to convince anyone that zero and one are not numbers, sci.math is probably NOT the place to come. Maybe you should start your own crazy-math news group targeting preschoolers.

Dan

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 by: Dan Christensen - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:48 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 2:27:04 PM UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
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> > Sometimes, their false concluded beileafs are lasting & running safely for thousands of years without being noticed
> >
> > And this is actually too dangerous to human mental health & care to unbelievable degree of human mind stupidity
> >
> > Many more tragedies were completely exposed & well-proven in my old relevant posts that are freely & publically published in my posts

Let me guess... Like JG and AP, you failed calculus. Now, it's all bullshit, right? (HA, HA, HA!)

Dan

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 by: markus...@gmail.com - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 19:01 UTC

söndag 10 september 2023 kl. 20:48:21 UTC+2 skrev Dan Christensen:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 2:27:04 PM UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> [snip]
> > > Sometimes, their false concluded beileafs are lasting & running safely for thousands of years without being noticed
> > >
> > > And this is actually too dangerous to human mental health & care to unbelievable degree of human mind stupidity
> > >
> > > Many more tragedies were completely exposed & well-proven in my old relevant posts that are freely & publically published in my posts
> Let me guess... Like JG and AP, you failed calculus. Now, it's all bullshit, right? (HA, HA, HA!)
>
> Dan
😂😂

Everything they don't understand is bullshit.

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:48:21 PM UTC+2, Dan Christensen wrote:

> Let me guess... Like JG and AP, you failed calculus.

AP didn't fail calculus.

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 19:44 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:04:29 PM UTC+3, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:48:21 PM UTC+2, Dan Christensen wrote:
>
> > Let me guess... Like JG and AP, you failed calculus.
> AP didn't fail calculus.

Look carefully on to those many young uprising Trolls who are a mere copies of their master historical Trolls 🧌 also, they simply cannot comprehend that culcuus itself is never any new issue because it started strictly thousands of years back by trying hopelessly to calculate the area of the so-called Circle 🔵 in their languages, nor they are able to understand that such an object like Circle in mathematics actually is a non-existing object & what are they calculating & endlessly approximating is infact for regular polygons as purely a matter of Eingineering calculations, which is mainly the whole culcuus about being mostly an eingineering or scientific task that is rarely relevant to true mathematics

However, and it is fairly to say it is not only the mathematicians who are blamed into this common human misunderstanding but also the (logicians, philosophers, physicians & all theoretical scientists as well including the physciocologists, .. , etc)

Mainly because such kinds of human mental problems are infact impossible to be cured alone with only mathematicians, since they are the mere victims of the whole issue

But with the help of arising Artificial Intelligence beings (which have no human very sever mentall inhireted diseases), the hope is great to heal the academic human mathematickers independently into this never spoken issue, beside saving the whole theoretical sciences from the many deeply rooted problems of fictional human invented mathematics for sure 👍

Why humans must waste centuries on problems of their own make like the insolvability of the general quintic equation where the truth that it is never any true problem which needs only a few minutes to fully well-understand by the biggners of clever students in number theory & Geometry?

It is truly intolerable shame upon the mainstream academic proffessional mathematicians to fight aimlessly & very stupidly against proven truths in their own fields & areas of especilizations

How did they were able to decive their own kinds with too silly numerical tricks the rest of mainstream sheeples for many centuries & centuries to come? No wonder!

But ultimately, they can't meet or beat the published truth any more about most of their false inhereted mouthmatics for sure

BKK

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On 9/10/2023 12:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> söndag 10 september 2023 kl. 20:48:21 UTC+2 skrev Dan Christensen:
>> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 2:27:04 PM UTC-4, bassam karzeddin wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> Sometimes, their false concluded beileafs are lasting & running safely for thousands of years without being noticed
>>>>
>>>> And this is actually too dangerous to human mental health & care to unbelievable degree of human mind stupidity
>>>>
>>>> Many more tragedies were completely exposed & well-proven in my old relevant posts that are freely & publically published in my posts
>> Let me guess... Like JG and AP, you failed calculus. Now, it's all bullshit, right? (HA, HA, HA!)
>>
>> Dan
> 😂😂
>
> Everything they don't understand is bullshit.

That is a rather profound statement. :^)

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 11 Sep 2023 00:41 UTC

Shit, I was already here 13.77 billion years ago and when
the universe had about the size of a peach. The inflation event
came and the universe became incredibly larger.

But once the universe was a healthy dozen minutes old, it had
expanded and cooled enough that the quarks could bind
themselves together, forming the first protons and neutrons.

The dense soup of the early cosmos, then split into dark
matter and neutral gas. Which expanded and condensed
into black holes and star-formation.

You might call me by my pronoun gudan, or my nickname god.

Dan Christensen schrieb am Freitag, 8. September 2023 um 00:22:18 UTC+2:
> Just wondering...

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Mon, 11 Sep 2023 01:08 UTC

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:41:30 AM UTC+3, Mild Shock wrote:
> Shit, I was already here 13.77 billion years ago and when
> the universe had about the size of a peach. The inflation event
> came and the universe became incredibly larger.
>
> But once the universe was a healthy dozen minutes old, it had
> expanded and cooled enough that the quarks could bind
> themselves together, forming the first protons and neutrons.
>
> The dense soup of the early cosmos, then split into dark
> matter and neutral gas. Which expanded and condensed
> into black holes and star-formation.
>
> You might call me by my pronoun gudan, or my nickname god.
>
> Dan Christensen schrieb am Freitag, 8. September 2023 um 00:22:18 UTC+2:
> > Just wondering...

Strongly, those who can't comprehend that two sucessive integers are absolutely impossible to be equals, are talking loudly about the universe and beyond...! No wonders!

I can't believe their endless hallucinations FOR SURE

BKK

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 11 Sep 2023 01:35 UTC

People who are older than 40 years, generally have problems
with revenge paradox. They don't see anymore that

if the sentence R were false, this would be a
contradiction, because R says:

R : This sentences is not true and not indeterminate.

Because false is not true and false is not indeterminate,
the sentences should be true.

Dan Christensen schrieb am Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 um 22:54:28 UTC+2:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote:
> > He did a form of "revenge paradox", you know your sentence is L:
> > L : This sentences is not true.
> >
> > The "revenge paradox" has a different label R:
> > R : This sentences is not true and not indeterminate.
> >
> Then that sentence is false.
>
> There are 3 mutually exclusive possibilities here. When 2 of them have been eliminated, then the remaining possibility must hold.
> Dan

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:35:54 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock (aka Mr. Collapse) wrote:
> People who are older than 40 years, generally have problems
> with revenge paradox. They don't see anymore that
>
> if the sentence R were false, this would be a
> contradiction, because R says:
>
> R : This sentences is not true and not indeterminate.
>
> Because false is not true and false is not indeterminate,
> the sentences should be true.
>
> > There are 3 mutually exclusive possibilities here. When 2 of them have been eliminated, then the remaining possibility must hold.

HA, HA! Poor old Mr. Collapse here still doesn't understand what a trichotomy is. Very said at his advanced age.

Hey, BKK, maybe you can convince Mr. Collapse here that 0 and 1 are not numbers. Maybe your FIRST recruit! Today, Mr. Collapse... Tomorrow, the world!

Dan

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 11 Sep 2023 10:43 UTC

The "sentence" R is obviously contradictory.
You can logically translate it to:

s e t <=> ~s e t & ~s e m

Its not satisfiable by Trichotomy. Neither
of the 3 cases s e f, s e t or s e m works.

Thats rather trivial to see.

Dan Christensen schrieb am Montag, 11. September 2023 um 04:44:34 UTC+2:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:35:54 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock (aka Mr. Collapse) wrote:
> > People who are older than 40 years, generally have problems
> > with revenge paradox. They don't see anymore that
> >
> > if the sentence R were false, this would be a
> > contradiction, because R says:
> >
> > R : This sentences is not true and not indeterminate.
> >
> > Because false is not true and false is not indeterminate,
> > the sentences should be true.
> >
> > > There are 3 mutually exclusive possibilities here. When 2 of them have been eliminated, then the remaining possibility must hold.
> HA, HA! Poor old Mr. Collapse here still doesn't understand what a trichotomy is. Very said at his advanced age.
>
> Hey, BKK, maybe you can convince Mr. Collapse here that 0 and 1 are not numbers. Maybe your FIRST recruit! Today, Mr. Collapse... Tomorrow, the world!
>
> Dan

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 11 Sep 2023 10:49 UTC

Also your "indeterminate" isn't very original:

"Different non-classical theories of truth offer different
explanations of the failure of classical principles. For instance,
sentences that do not satisfy all of the principles of classical
logic have been characterized as ‘paradoxical’ [Kripke Citation1975],
‘unstable’ [Zardini Citation2011], ‘indeterminate’ [McGee Citation1991;
Field Citation2008], ‘glutty’ [Beall Citation2009], both ‘tolerantly
assertible and deniable’ [Cobreros et al. Citation2013], and so on.
In turn, these notions have been thought to give rise to
specific revenge arguments"
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00048402.2019.1640323

Calling it paradoxical, as I do, seems to be in line
with Saul Kripke’s influential work in the 1970s

Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 11. September 2023 um 12:43:54 UTC+2:
> The "sentence" R is obviously contradictory.
> You can logically translate it to:
>
> s e t <=> ~s e t & ~s e m
>
> Its not satisfiable by Trichotomy. Neither
> of the 3 cases s e f, s e t or s e m works.
>
> Thats rather trivial to see.
> Dan Christensen schrieb am Montag, 11. September 2023 um 04:44:34 UTC+2:
> > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:35:54 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock (aka Mr. Collapse) wrote:
> > > People who are older than 40 years, generally have problems
> > > with revenge paradox. They don't see anymore that
> > >
> > > if the sentence R were false, this would be a
> > > contradiction, because R says:
> > >
> > > R : This sentences is not true and not indeterminate.
> > >
> > > Because false is not true and false is not indeterminate,
> > > the sentences should be true.
> > >
> > > > There are 3 mutually exclusive possibilities here. When 2 of them have been eliminated, then the remaining possibility must hold.
> > HA, HA! Poor old Mr. Collapse here still doesn't understand what a trichotomy is. Very said at his advanced age.
> >
> > Hey, BKK, maybe you can convince Mr. Collapse here that 0 and 1 are not numbers. Maybe your FIRST recruit! Today, Mr. Collapse... Tomorrow, the world!
> >
> > Dan

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 by: bassam karzeddin - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:05 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:44:28 PM UTC+3, bassam karzeddin wrote:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:04:29 PM UTC+3, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:48:21 PM UTC+2, Dan Christensen wrote:
> >
> > > Let me guess... Like JG and AP, you failed calculus.
> > AP didn't fail calculus.
> Look carefully on to those many young uprising Trolls who are a mere copies of their master historical Trolls 🧌 also, they simply cannot comprehend that culcuus itself is never any new issue because it started strictly thousands of years back by trying hopelessly to calculate the area of the so-called Circle 🔵 in their languages, nor they are able to understand that such an object like Circle in mathematics actually is a non-existing object & what are they calculating & endlessly approximating is infact for regular polygons as purely a matter of Eingineering calculations, which is mainly the whole culcuus about being mostly an eingineering or scientific task that is rarely relevant to true mathematics
>
>
> However, and it is fairly to say it is not only the mathematicians who are blamed into this common human misunderstanding but also the (logicians, philosophers, physicians & all theoretical scientists as well including the physciocologists, .. , etc)
>
> Mainly because such kinds of human mental problems are infact impossible to be cured alone with only mathematicians, since they are the mere victims of the whole issue
>
> But with the help of arising Artificial Intelligence beings (which have no human very sever mentall inhireted diseases), the hope is great to heal the academic human mathematickers independently into this never spoken issue, beside saving the whole theoretical sciences from the many deeply rooted problems of fictional human invented mathematics for sure 👍
>
> Why humans must waste centuries on problems of their own make like the insolvability of the general quintic equation where the truth that it is never any true problem which needs only a few minutes to fully well-understand by the biggners of clever students in number theory & Geometry?
>
> It is truly intolerable shame upon the mainstream academic proffessional mathematicians to fight aimlessly & very stupidly against proven truths in their own fields & areas of especilizations
>
> How did they were able to decive their own kinds with too silly numerical tricks the rest of mainstream sheeples for many centuries & centuries to come? No wonder!
>
> But ultimately, they can't meet or beat the published truth any more about most of their false inhereted mouthmatics for sure
>
> BKK

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