Gary Harnagel wrote:

> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, mitchr...@gmail.com
>> > > Would traveling at c not give infinite kinetic energy?
>> >
>> > That's what theory says and what experiment confirms.
>>
>> Then why does it not happen? Every photon would have it.
>> But clearly they do not.
>
> E^2 = p^2c^2 + m^2c^4.
> m = 0 for photons so E = pc. m > 0 for normal particles and p = mv/(1 -
> v^2/c^2)^0.5, so particles where m <> 0 can't travel at c.

nonsense. Dr. Mitchel is correct again. A particle with ZERO mass is
absurd. Even photons have mass. A particle with zero mass would imply
existence 𝗼𝗳_𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀, which is absurd. Think again.

𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮'𝘀_𝗧𝗼𝗽_𝗧𝗮𝗹𝗸𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘄_𝗛𝗼𝘀𝘁,_𝗝𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘀𝗵_𝗦𝗼𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘃_𝗗𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘆𝘀_𝗚𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/S874WW8JtP4w/

On 10/30/2023 3:20 PM, Derick Belohvostikov wrote:
> Gary Harnagel wrote:
>
>> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, mitchr...@gmail.com
>>>>> Would traveling at c not give infinite kinetic energy?
>>>>
>>>> That's what theory says and what experiment confirms.
>>>
>>> Then why does it not happen? Every photon would have it.
>>> But clearly they do not.
>>
>> E^2 = p^2c^2 + m^2c^4.
>> m = 0 for photons so E = pc. m > 0 for normal particles and p = mv/(1 -
>> v^2/c^2)^0.5, so particles where m <> 0 can't travel at c.
>
> nonsense. Dr. Mitchel is correct again. A particle with ZERO mass is
> absurd. Even photons have mass.

Are you sure about photons having mass?

A particle with zero mass would imply
> existence 𝗼𝗳_𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀, which is absurd. Think again.
>
> 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮'𝘀_𝗧𝗼𝗽_𝗧𝗮𝗹𝗸𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘄_𝗛𝗼𝘀𝘁,_𝗝𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘀𝗵_𝗦𝗼𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘃_𝗗𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘆𝘀_𝗚𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
> https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/S874WW8JtP4w/

Gary Harnagel wrote:

>> > nonsense. Dr. Mitchel is correct again. A particle with ZERO mass is
>> > absurd. Even photons have mass.
>> Are you sure about photons having mass?
> Of course he's sure
> “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always
> so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
> -- Bertrand Russell
>
>> > A particle with zero mass would imply existence 𝗼𝗳_𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀,
>> > which is absurd. Think again.
>
> The existence of a particle with zero mass does NOT imply the existence
> of particles with negative mass.

you don't undrestand the relationship because you are an 𝘂𝗻𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱
𝘂𝗻𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗱𝗶𝗼𝘁. Moreover, you can't even assign energy to a particle with
zero mass. A true scientist would know that the photon has a𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗺𝗮𝗹
𝗻𝗼𝗻_𝘇𝗲𝗿𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀.

Highlights
Mathematically the rest mass of photons is complex number when comes
in contact with the surface of matter.
Mass depends upon scalar curvature of the surface of matter and
wavelength of the photon.
Photon itself reveals illusion posing with mass on the surface of
matter because of wave-particle duality.

Gary Harnagel wrote:

>> > “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are
>> > always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
>> > -- Bertrand Russell
>>
>> Is Mr. Russell sure about that? -- Rich
>
> Good point!
> “‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a moment of
> judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold someone, point out
> what they have done wrong. But each time we point, we simultaneously
> point three fingers back at ourselves.” – Christopher Pike

you see too many movies. What kind of fucking mathematician are you, not
undrestanding 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 and 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘂𝗺 𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀. What a disgrace.