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* Re; Hungarian csuhajja?Tim Lang
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Subject: Re; Hungarian csuhajja?
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 by: Tim Lang - Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:00 UTC

csuhaj! - an interjection
csuhajja: csuhaj as a noun + genitive suffix -ja

explanations:
<https://www.arcanum.com/en/online-kiadvanyok/Lexikonok-a-magyar-nyelv-ertelmezo-szotara-1BE8B/cs-22AB7/csuhaj-23D92/>

(indulatszó "interjection")

synonym:

hű!
hűha!

[in positive contexts, incl. the sense of "atta!" e.g. "atta boy!"]

Csuhaj! - the best Engl. equivalents seem to be these, especially the
y- interjections:

"yay!" - "why!" - "well-well-well!" - "yikes!"
"wow!" - "hooray!" - "yippee!" - "yahoo!" - "yeehaw!"

(mostly positive context; or introducing irony/sarcasm concerning
bad/dire situations, when it rather means ... <sheesh>, <shucks>,
<boy-oh-boy!>)

Danger of mixing up:

(1) csuha (pejorative): the (black) frock/clothing of priests
csuhás (pejorative): any priest (like German Pfaff(e) and
Pope, if orthodox) [hypothesis: < csúnya "ugly" + ruha "garment"]

(2) csuhé: (a) "skin", the outer layer, of the plant maize/corn
- a.k.a. csuha
(b) "Lieschen Müller" (average, modest woman)

Tim

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Subject: Re: Re; Hungarian csuhajja?
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 by: Ruud Harmsen via Goo - Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:56 UTC

On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 3:00:23 PM UTC+2, Tim Lang wrote:
> csuhaj! - an interjection
> csuhajja: csuhaj as a noun + genitive suffix -ja
>
> explanations:
> <https://www.arcanum.com/en/online-kiadvanyok/Lexikonok-a-magyar-nyelv-ertelmezo-szotara-1BE8B/cs-22AB7/csuhaj-23D92/>
>
> (indulatszó "interjection")
>
> ꏨ
>
> synonym:
>
> hű!
> hűha!
>
> [in positive contexts, incl. the sense of "atta!" e.g. "atta boy!"]
>
> Csuhaj! - the best Engl. equivalents seem to be these, especially the
> y- interjections:
>
> "yay!" - "why!" - "well-well-well!" - "yikes!"
> "wow!" - "hooray!" - "yippee!" - "yahoo!" - "yeehaw!"
>
> (mostly positive context; or introducing irony/sarcasm concerning
> bad/dire situations, when it rather means ... <sheesh>, <shucks>,
> <boy-oh-boy!>)
>
> ꏨ
>
> Danger of mixing up:
>
> (1) csuha (pejorative): the (black) frock/clothing of priests
> csuhás (pejorative): any priest (like German Pfaff(e) and
> Pope, if orthodox) [hypothesis: < csúnya "ugly" + ruha "garment"]
>
> (2) csuhé: (a) "skin", the outer layer, of the plant maize/corn
> - a.k.a. csuha
> (b) "Lieschen Müller" (average, modest woman)

Thanks. That helps a lot in understanding it.

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