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* Re: San Bernardino iPhone Condor Legal Precendent Fed access to allChris
`- Re: San Bernardino iPhone Condor Legal Precendent Fed access to all phonesRod Speed

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 by: Chris - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 10:56 UTC

On 27/04/2021 03:45, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> asked
>
>
>> How odd that it did with all gun deaths in australia.
>
> Myth. Busted.
>

[ snip pro-gun lobby sites ]

The facts dispute the dogma:

https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html

"Overall conclusion: Suicide rates, and particularly firearm suicide
rates, decreased more rapidly after the NFA and the 2003 handgun buyback
program compared with before passage of the law. This finding, along
with the finding that firearm suicide rates declined more in regions
where more guns were turned in, is consistent with the hypothesis that
the NFA caused suicide rates to decline."

Mass shootings were significantly reduced and not just a statistical
anomaly:
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-0503

"Implementation of a ban on rapid-fire firearms [in Australia] was
associated with reductions in mass shootings and total firearm deaths."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2530362

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:32 UTC

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote
> Robin Goodfellow wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> How odd that it did with all gun deaths in australia.

>> Myth. Busted.

> [ snip pro-gun lobby sites ]

> The facts dispute the dogma:

More bullshit.

> https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html

> "Overall conclusion: Suicide rates, and particularly firearm suicide
> rates, decreased more rapidly after the NFA and the 2003 handgun buyback
> program compared with before passage of the law.

That’s a lie with suicide rates.
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/suicide-and-intentional-self-harm

And its hardly surprising that with fewer people
having guns, fewer use a gun to kill themselves.

> This finding, along with the finding that firearm suicide rates declined
> more in regions where more guns were turned in,

Again, hardly surprising.

> is consistent with the hypothesis that the NFA caused suicide rates to
> decline."

Pity they actually increased substantially.
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/suicide-and-intentional-self-harm

> Mass shootings were significantly reduced and not just a statistical
> anomaly:
> https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-0503

Yes if by mass shootings you mean like Hoddle St and Port Arthur.

NOT ONE since the gun law changes.

> "Implementation of a ban on rapid-fire firearms [in Australia]

There is no such ban.

> was associated with reductions in mass shootings

Like Hoddle St and Port Arthur, yes, in fact eliminated those.

> and total firearm deaths."
> https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2530362
>

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