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* Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light?Cresencio Nurmuhametov Pasternak
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 by: Cresencio Nurmuhamet - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:29 UTC

Mike Fontenot wrote:

> On 12/10/23 11:39 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
>> And if that inertial observer (aka Tom Roberts) ignores that result, he
>> will be refusing to accept the fundamental assumption of Special
>> Relativity: that the speed of light, in ANY inertial frame, is 186,000
>> miles per second.
> Because the only thing that the observers in that inertial reference
> frame used to synchronize all of their clocks (which is the only thing
> they use to determine the distant person's age) is that the speed of any
> light pulse is 186,000 miles per second.

I don't get it. You can't ยป๐˜€๐˜†๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜‡๐—ฒยซ anything remote. You have to be
ยป๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—นยซ. But watch this

๐—ช๐—ต๐—ผ_๐—ถ๐˜€_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—จ๐—ฆ_๐—ท๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜_๐—˜๐—น๐—ผ๐—ป_๐— ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ธ_๐—ถ๐˜€_๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—•๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป_๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—ญ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ธ๐˜†_๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜?
A critic of the Kiev government, Gonzalo Lira is now awaiting trial in the
Ukrainian city of Kharkov
https://r%74.com/russia/588846-journalist-gonzalo-lira-ukraine/

He also criticized efforts by the Western media to portray Ukraine as a
โ€œ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜†โ€, according to ๐—˜๐˜‡๐—ฟ๐—ฎ ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ, a democracy is now currently defined
in Europe as '๐—ฎ_๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜†_๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐—ป_๐—ฏ๐˜†_๐—ธ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜‡๐—ฎ๐—ฟ_๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜†๐˜€'.

Russia should take over Kharkov and free Gonzalo Lira. I hope so too!

When American drug smugglers or blatant spooks are arrested in Russia,
Biden admin jumps up and down every single day claiming they are
"๐˜„๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—น๐—น๐˜†_๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ". They are in contact constantly with the family. There
are ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐—ฏ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐˜€ about their status. And yet with Lira there is
nothing. Tells you everything about US "concern" for their own. The US has
๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜ƒ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—น๐˜†.

All ๐— ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ธ has to do is ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ ๐˜‡๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ธ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—บ, or ๐˜€๐—ต๐˜‚๐˜ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ฝ๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ๐—ณ

In the West, you don't get put in prison for telling lies, you get put in
prison ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ต.

Did Musk visit the organ harvesting industries?

A "shady" character from the get go?... a probable CIA asset that popped
out of nowhere with the purpose of acquiring names/identifications of
Russian sympathizers? Smoke and mirrors.

Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light?

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 by: Physfitfreak - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 00:53 UTC

On 12/10/2023 5:29 PM, Cresencio Nurmuhametov Pasternak wrote:
> Mike Fontenot wrote:
>
>> On 12/10/23 11:39 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
>>> And if that inertial observer (aka Tom Roberts) ignores that result, he
>>> will be refusing to accept the fundamental assumption of Special
>>> Relativity: that the speed of light, in ANY inertial frame, is 186,000
>>> miles per second.
>> Because the only thing that the observers in that inertial reference
>> frame used to synchronize all of their clocks (which is the only thing
>> they use to determine the distant person's age) is that the speed of any
>> light pulse is 186,000 miles per second.
>
> I don't get it. You can't ยป๐˜€๐˜†๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜‡๐—ฒยซ anything remote. You have to be
> ยป๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—นยซ. But watch this
>
> ๐—ช๐—ต๐—ผ_๐—ถ๐˜€_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—จ๐—ฆ_๐—ท๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜_๐—˜๐—น๐—ผ๐—ป_๐— ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ธ_๐—ถ๐˜€_๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—•๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป_๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—ญ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ธ๐˜†_๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜?
> A critic of the Kiev government, Gonzalo Lira is now awaiting trial in the
> Ukrainian city of Kharkov
> https://r%74.com/russia/588846-journalist-gonzalo-lira-ukraine/
>
> He also criticized efforts by the Western media to portray Ukraine as a
> โ€œ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜†โ€, according to ๐—˜๐˜‡๐—ฟ๐—ฎ ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ, a democracy is now currently defined
> in Europe as '๐—ฎ_๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜†_๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐—ป_๐—ฏ๐˜†_๐—ธ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜‡๐—ฎ๐—ฟ_๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜†๐˜€'.
>
> Russia should take over Kharkov and free Gonzalo Lira. I hope so too!
>
> When American drug smugglers or blatant spooks are arrested in Russia,
> Biden admin jumps up and down every single day claiming they are
> "๐˜„๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—น๐—น๐˜†_๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ". They are in contact constantly with the family. There
> are ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐—ฏ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐˜€ about their status. And yet with Lira there is
> nothing. Tells you everything about US "concern" for their own. The US has
> ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜ƒ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—น๐˜†.
>
> All ๐— ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ธ has to do is ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ ๐˜‡๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ธ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—บ, or ๐˜€๐—ต๐˜‚๐˜ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ฝ๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ๐—ณ
>
> In the West, you don't get put in prison for telling lies, you get put in
> prison ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ต.
>
> Did Musk visit the organ harvesting industries?
>
> A "shady" character from the get go?... a probable CIA asset that popped
> out of nowhere with the purpose of acquiring names/identifications of
> Russian sympathizers? Smoke and mirrors.

Hanson, forget the jounalist, tell us what are the trainee Iranian
scientists and engineers doing inside Kurchatov Institute of all the
places on Earth :-)

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