On Monday, December 8, 1997 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, Jim Balter wrote:
> Kevin D. Quitt wrote:
> >
> > On 4 Dec 1997 16:02:51 GMT, kgr...@dmsoproto.ida.org (keith green
> > (simctr)) wrote:
> > >They put a set of chess positions on the board and showed it to the
> > >people from each group for a few seconds (3 or 5 or something like that)
> > >and asked the people to reconstruct the position they saw on a different
> > >board. Guess who did very well (almost perfectly) and guess who did not.
> >
> > The experiment I read about involved views of a few milliseconds.
> No it didn't; you've misremembered. The classic experiments by
> Adrian de Groot and later enhanced by Newell and Simon involved
> "a few seconds".
> > Any
> > reasonable chess player can reconstruct the board from a glance.
> Totally false.
> > A GM
> > could completely reconstruct a legal board position from as little as a
> > one-millisecond view.
> Utterly false.
> > When the board position was illegal (e.g., both
> > kings in check), the GMs could't reconstruct the board even with a full
> > second's view of it.
> Wrong kind of illegality. GM's can't recall positions that they can't
> chunk -- that don't contain familiar chess themes.
> >
> > Another interesting aspect was having the subject write down the list of
> > legal moves for a particular size. Surprisingly, expert level players
> > could write down nearly all the moves even when the view was too short for
> > them to reconstruct the board position.
> Unlikely.
> > Better players could remember
> > FEWER moves. GMs could only remember a couple of moves - but the moves
> > they remember were the "best" moves. In other words, the Grand Masters
> > didn't even SEE the moves not worth considering.
> A reference for these silly claims might be nice.
> --
> <J Q B>
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