Hey Folks,

Haven't been in this group in ages so I hope all is well with you folks. I see
there is still noise here but not as much as before.

Anyway, I have a 16 channel BCM10/2 Mk2 on order, but AMS Neve doesn't have a
user guide for it. I have been doing stuff in the box and have only had small
mixers.

I need a course on routing and one on the console itself. So far I have not
found anything. Anybody know of such?

BTW, I have seen numerous videos on the console, but I still have questions,
like "How do I patch in an outboard processor?"

Please be safe,
Robert

Robert A. Ober
IT Consultant, Vidcaster, & Freelancer
Licensed UAV(drone) Pilot
www.infohou.com
Houston, TX

INFOHOU <infohou@notgonnatellya.com> wrote:
>
>Anyway, I have a 16 channel BCM10/2 Mk2 on order, but AMS Neve doesn't have a
>user guide for it. I have been doing stuff in the box and have only had small
>mixers.
>
>I need a course on routing and one on the console itself. So far I have not
>found anything. Anybody know of such?

If it's a standard inline design, get a copy of Sherman Keene's "Practical
Techniques for the Recording Engineer" which has a good discussion of basic
signal flow and operations for inline consoles as well as a basic operating
guide to the Neve 8108.

This book is basically a training guide to teach you to be an assistant
engineer, which is a job position that probably doesn't even exist anymore.
It's a very good guide to traditional studio operations and workflow in
the analogue world.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On Feb 20, 2022 at 17:56:40 CST, "Scott Dorsey" <Scott Dorsey> wrote
>
> If it's a standard inline design, get a copy of Sherman Keene's "Practical
> Techniques for the Recording Engineer" which has a good discussion of basic
> signal flow and operations for inline consoles as well as a basic operating
> guide to the Neve 8108.
>
> This book is basically a training guide to teach you to be an assistant
> engineer, which is a job position that probably doesn't even exist anymore.
> It's a very good guide to traditional studio operations and workflow in
> the analogue world.
> --scott

Thanks, but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere except a pdf at a UK site
that I am not sure is legitimate.

Anybody know of a source for it? Copy you want to sell?

Thanks,
Robert
PS: Scott, glad you are still here! You helped me years ago when I was
wondering if I could record anything listenable.

INFOHOU <infohou@notgonnatellya.com> wrote:
>On Feb 20, 2022 at 17:56:40 CST, "Scott Dorsey" <Scott Dorsey> wrote
>> If it's a standard inline design, get a copy of Sherman Keene's "Practical
>> Techniques for the Recording Engineer" which has a good discussion of basic
>> signal flow and operations for inline consoles as well as a basic operating
>> guide to the Neve 8108.
>
>Thanks, but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere except a pdf at a UK site
>that I am not sure is legitimate.

Alibris has six copies available starting around $60. Which is admittedly
a lot more than the book cost when it was new, but that's how a lot of these
things go.

>PS: Scott, glad you are still here! You helped me years ago when I was
>wondering if I could record anything listenable.

Thank you! I still pop in now and then but Usenet in general is mostly
dead, sorry to say. A lot of the openness and freedom that made Usenet
so popular wound up killing it when it became popular.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Hey again,

I spent too much and bought the hardcover at Alibris so thanks again to Scott.
I was not aware of Alibris and thought anything with Ali was related to
Alibaba.

There are some things on the BCM that are unusual to me. What about the reverb
returns? What is special about them? Are they piped through a built in reverb?

Yes, I have a looked on the AMS Neve site. I have even traded emails with
someone there expressing my displeasure at no manual.

The videos they have are not detailed enough and skip over the simple inputs
and reverb returns.

Ridiculous. My little Soundcraft EPM6 has a really good manual with several
examples.

But I digress.

If you folks know of someone that can train me remotely on this console I
would appreciate you letting me know. Hopefully AMS Neve will be able to ship
it within a few months.

Y'all stay safe,
Robert

INFOHOU <infohou@notgonnatellya.com> wrote:
>
>There are some things on the BCM that are unusual to me. What about the reverb
>returns? What is special about them? Are they piped through a built in reverb?

No, they are piped through an external reverb unit that you supply. There is
a summing buss that goes to a reverb send, and then you can bring signal back
onto the 2-buss from the reverb return.

Here is the block diagram:

https://www.scribd.com/document/429383219/Neve-BCM10-Audio-Mixing-Desk-Schematic-Block-pdf

>Yes, I have a looked on the AMS Neve site. I have even traded emails with
>someone there expressing my displeasure at no manual.

The original BCM10 came with a pretty decent manual. Get a copy of it.
Geoff Tanner will have it if you can't find it online. But really, everything
you care about is on the block diagram.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."