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* Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in HebrewRuud Harmsen via Google Groups
`* Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in HebrewRuud Harmsen via Google Groups
 `* Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in HebrewPeter T. Daniels
  `- Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in HebrewRuud Harmsen

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Subject: Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in Hebrew
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 by: Ruud Harmsen via Goo - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:28 UTC

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 9:12:28 AM UTC+2, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
> All I ask for is a readable transliteration of entire paragraphs or pages..

I am aware that Franz is no longer alive. But this answers his question:
https://www.voynich.nu/transcr.html
The newest transliteration scheme is called Eva, and it has
several advantages.

Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in Hebrew

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Subject: Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in Hebrew
From: goo...@rudhar.com (Ruud Harmsen via Google Groups)
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 by: Ruud Harmsen via Goo - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:51 UTC

On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 5:28:22 PM UTC+2, Ruud Harmsen via Google Groups <google@rudhar.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 9:12:28 AM UTC+2, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
> > All I ask for is a readable transliteration of entire paragraphs or pages.
>
> I am aware that Franz is no longer alive. But this answers his question:
> https://www.voynich.nu/transcr.html
> The newest transliteration scheme is called Eva, and it has
> several advantages.

No, STA is even newer, and more comprehensive. But not
easily human readable.
Anyway, clearly work in underway by many competent people,
and a lot is already finished.

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Subject: Re: AI tackling the Voynich manuscript; it appears to be in Hebrew
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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:44 UTC

On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 11:51:15 AM UTC-4, Ruud Harmsen via Google Groups <google@rudhar.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 5:28:22 PM UTC+2, Ruud Harmsen via Google Groups <goo...@rudhar.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 9:12:28 AM UTC+2, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
>
> > > All I ask for is a readable transliteration of entire paragraphs or pages.
> > I am aware that Franz is no longer alive. But this answers his question:
> > https://www.voynich.nu/transcr.html
> > The newest transliteration scheme is called Eva, and it has
> > several advantages.
>
> No, STA is even newer, and more comprehensive. But not
> easily human readable.
> Anyway, clearly work in underway by many competent people,
> and a lot is already finished.

Just yesterday, the person who occasionally posts here about the
Voynich (Cheshire?) sent to a professional writing systems list s
claim to have fully translated it. I didn't look. (But I didn't delete
the message, either.)

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 by: Ruud Harmsen - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 07:47 UTC

Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:44:29 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> scribeva:

>On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 11:51:15?AM UTC-4, Ruud Harmsen via Google Groups <google@rudhar.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 5:28:22?PM UTC+2, Ruud Harmsen via Google Groups <goo...@rudhar.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 9:12:28?AM UTC+2, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
>>
>> > > All I ask for is a readable transliteration of entire paragraphs or pages.
>> > I am aware that Franz is no longer alive. But this answers his question:
>> > https://www.voynich.nu/transcr.html
>> > The newest transliteration scheme is called Eva, and it has
>> > several advantages.
>>
>> No, STA is even newer, and more comprehensive. But not
>> easily human readable.
>> Anyway, clearly work in underway by many competent people,
>> and a lot is already finished.
>
>Just yesterday, the person who occasionally posts here about the
>Voynich (Cheshire?) sent to a professional writing systems list s
>claim to have fully translated it. I didn't look. (But I didn't delete
>the message, either.)

If true, it will no doubt be mentioned soon on voynich.nu (by René
Zandbergen, quite comprehensive), voynich.net or voynich.com.

My latest theory is it is in Ladino or Mozarabe in Arabic script, with
the dots left out of both-sides-connected b, t, th, n, y, hence the
strange Roman numeral like iiiij thingies that occur in no normal
human language.
--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

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