How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the battery,
but none of my smartphones have ever said that?

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge
> the battery, but none of my smartphones have ever said that?

The Sandisk Clip Sport has fuck all in the way of smarts in it.

Am 09.06.21 um 23:25 schrieb micky:
> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the battery,
> but none of my smartphones have ever said that?

So what! Did your house burn down?
Hint: Charging electronics.

In article <cbc2cgh1ume8gbrjpq2f9ccnkts13jjn9e@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...
>
> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the battery,
> but none of my smartphones have ever said that?

Conversely my smartphone (Moto G3) instructions specifically did say
that. Wrongly, though: the battery bulged and burst the screen out of
the casing.

On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 17:25:55 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the battery,
>but none of my smartphones have ever said that?

It's not a smart phone and deals only with one Li-Ion cell battery.
Protection electronics and charge limiters for that purpose are
commodities. I've never had a small MP3 player with battery issues.

They're claiming something that all previous competition took
for granted, to increase meaningless advertizing content.

Your smart phone has a more advanced and more complicated
battery. New developments or manufacturing changes will have
issues without a strict discipline that is often not present
in that competitive arena.

RL

In article <MPG.3b2c5672294a73b410c@news.plus.net>,
gravity@mjcoon.plus.com says...
>
> > How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the battery,
> > but none of my smartphones have ever said that?
>
> Conversely my smartphone (Moto G3) instructions specifically did say
> that. Wrongly, though: the battery bulged and burst the screen out of
> the casing.
>
>

Guess that I have been lucky. I only use my cell phone when away from
the house. At hone it stays on the charger all the time, maybe several
days. I have done this to a flip phone and 2 smart phones and so far no
problems.

Am 10.06.21 um 20:33 schrieb Ralph Mowery:
> Guess that I have been lucky. I only use my cell phone when away from
> the house. At hone it stays on the charger all the time, maybe several
> days. I have done this to a flip phone and 2 smart phones and so far no
> problems.

With Li-Ion batteries there are no problems anyway and the rest is done
by the electronics. Care free I would say.

On 6/10/2021 10:04 AM, Mike Coon wrote:

> In article <cbc2cgh1ume8gbrjpq2f9ccnkts13jjn9e@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
> @fmguy.com says...

>> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the
>> battery, but none of my smartphones have ever said that?

> Conversely my smartphone (Moto G3) instructions specifically did say
> that. Wrongly, though: the battery bulged and burst the screen out
> of the casing.

Might not have been the charging that was at fault. I had a phone's
battery swell and pop open the case while off the charger and at less
than full charge. I just replaced the battery and the phone never had
another problem until I traded it for a new one well over a year later.
Bad batteries happen...

In article <s9ts4j$5lr$1@dont-email.me>, hugybear@gmx.ch says...
>
> Am 10.06.21 um 20:33 schrieb Ralph Mowery:
> > Guess that I have been lucky. I only use my cell phone when away from
> > the house. At hone it stays on the charger all the time, maybe several
> > days. I have done this to a flip phone and 2 smart phones and so far no
> > problems.
>
> With Li-Ion batteries there are no problems anyway and the rest is done
> by the electronics. Care free I would say.

What "no problems"? Like the well-publicised fires, recalls etc?
Airlines seem to care rather a lot...

In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:34:16 -0700, AJL
<noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 6/10/2021 10:04 AM, Mike Coon wrote:
>
>> In article <cbc2cgh1ume8gbrjpq2f9ccnkts13jjn9e@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
>> @fmguy.com says...
>
>>> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the
>>> battery, but none of my smartphones have ever said that?
>
>> Conversely my smartphone (Moto G3) instructions specifically did say
>> that. Wrongly, though: the battery bulged and burst the screen out
>> of the casing.
>
>Might not have been the charging that was at fault. I had a phone's
>battery swell and pop open the case while off the charger and at less
>than full charge. I just replaced the battery and the phone never had
>another problem until I traded it for a new one well over a year later.
>Bad batteries happen...

There are no bad batteries. Only batteries that do bad things.

Like children!

Am 10.06.21 um 23:54 schrieb Mike Coon:
> In article <s9ts4j$5lr$1@dont-email.me>, hugybear@gmx.ch says...
>>
>> Am 10.06.21 um 20:33 schrieb Ralph Mowery:
>>> Guess that I have been lucky. I only use my cell phone when away from
>>> the house. At hone it stays on the charger all the time, maybe several
>>> days. I have done this to a flip phone and 2 smart phones and so far no
>>> problems.
>>
>> With Li-Ion batteries there are no problems anyway and the rest is done
>> by the electronics. Care free I would say.
>
> What "no problems"? Like the well-publicised fires, recalls etc?
> Airlines seem to care rather a lot...

They don't.
The real problem are the batteries of the shitty B-787.

Am 10.06.21 um 22:34 schrieb AJL:
> On 6/10/2021 10:04 AM, Mike Coon wrote:
>
>> In article <cbc2cgh1ume8gbrjpq2f9ccnkts13jjn9e@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
>> @fmguy.com says...
>
>>> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the
>>> battery, but none of my smartphones have ever said that?
>
>> Conversely my smartphone (Moto G3) instructions specifically did say
>> that. Wrongly, though: the battery bulged and burst the screen out
>> of the casing.
>
> Might not have been the charging that was at fault. I had a phone's
> battery swell and pop open the case while off the charger and at less
> than full charge. I just replaced the battery and the phone never had
> another problem until I traded it for a new one well over a year later.
> Bad batteries happen...

That sounds like an ultra cheap non-device-manufacturer-standard
replacement battery.

In article <s9vfah$663$3@dont-email.me>, hugybear@gmx.ch says...
>
> Am 10.06.21 um 23:54 schrieb Mike Coon:
> > In article <s9ts4j$5lr$1@dont-email.me>, hugybear@gmx.ch says...
> >>
> >> Am 10.06.21 um 20:33 schrieb Ralph Mowery:
> >>> Guess that I have been lucky. I only use my cell phone when away from
> >>> the house. At hone it stays on the charger all the time, maybe several
> >>> days. I have done this to a flip phone and 2 smart phones and so far no
> >>> problems.
> >>
> >> With Li-Ion batteries there are no problems anyway and the rest is done
> >> by the electronics. Care free I would say.
> >
> > What "no problems"? Like the well-publicised fires, recalls etc?
> > Airlines seem to care rather a lot...
>
> They don't.
> The real problem are the batteries of the shitty B-787.

Have you not read the strictures applied to how you transport your
gadgets' batteries? Admittedly the caring is about their aeroplanes;
they like the batteries to be close to the passenger, to act as a fire
detector...

On 06/11/2021 04:55 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 10.06.21 um 22:34 schrieb AJL:
>> On 6/10/2021 10:04 AM, Mike Coon wrote:
>>
>>> In article <cbc2cgh1ume8gbrjpq2f9ccnkts13jjn9e@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
>>> @fmguy.com says...
>>
>>>> How come my Sandisk Clip Sport says one cannot ovrcharge the
>>>> battery, but none of my smartphones have ever said that?
>>
>>> Conversely my smartphone (Moto G3) instructions specifically did say
>>> that. Wrongly, though: the battery bulged and burst the screen out
>>> of the casing.
>>
>> Might not have been the charging that was at fault. I had a phone's
>> battery swell and pop open the case while off the charger and at less
>> than full charge. I just replaced the battery and the phone never had
>> another problem until I traded it for a new one well over a year later.
>> Bad batteries happen...
>
> That sounds like an ultra cheap non-device-manufacturer-standard
> replacement battery.
>

I've got a Novatel MiFi and their batteries are prone to pregnancy. They
tell you to not leave it plugged in but I use it for internet access 24/7.

One of our clients send in a laptop for testing with our products and
included the same model. It arrived without the back cover because of
the bulging.

Am 11.06.21 um 16:05 schrieb rbowman:
> On 06/11/2021 04:55 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> That sounds like an ultra cheap non-device-manufacturer-standard
>> replacement battery.
>>
>
> I've got a Novatel MiFi and their batteries are prone to pregnancy. They
> tell you to not leave it plugged in but I use it for internet access 24/7.
>
> One of our clients send in a laptop for testing with our products and
> included the same model. It arrived without the back cover because of
> the bulging.

People using such crap are irresponsible.
*EOD* for me.

On 6/11/2021 3:55 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 10.06.21 um 22:34 schrieb AJL:

>> I had a phone's battery swell and pop open the case while off the
>> charger and at less than full charge. I just replaced the battery
>> and the phone never had another problem until I traded it for a new
>> one well over a year later. Bad batteries happen...

> That sounds like an ultra cheap non-device-manufacturer-standard
> replacement battery.

It was the original battery that came in a new iPhone. The phone was
around a year old when the failure occurred. I replaced it with your
well described ultra cheap (US$30 including tools)
non-device-manufacturer-standard replacement battery. Fortunately that
battery worked fine for the following year+ until the phone was finally
replaced.