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* Indigenous groups relish(ed) rotted meatPrimum Sapienti
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 by: Primum Sapienti - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 21:04 UTC

Sorry, not even with LOTS of ketchup...

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/meat-rotten-putrid-paleo-diet-fire-neanderthal

In a book about his travels in Africa published in
1907, British explorer Arnold Henry Savage Landor
recounted witnessing an impromptu meal that his
companions relished but that he found unimaginably
revolting.

As he coasted down a river in the Congo Basin with
several local hunter-gatherers, a dead rodent
floated near their canoe. Its decomposing body had
bloated to the size of a small pig.

Stench from the swollen corpse left Landor gasping
for breath. Unable to speak, he tried to signal his
companions to steer the canoe away from the fetid
creature. Instead, they hauled the supersize rodent
aboard and ate it.
....
Starting in the 1500s, European and then later American
explorers, traders, missionaries, government officials
and others who lived among Indigenous peoples in many
parts of the world wrote of similar food practices.
Hunter-gatherers and small-scale farmers everywhere
commonly ate putrid meat, fish and fatty parts of a
wide range of animals. From arctic tundra to tropical
rainforests, native populations consumed rotten
remains, either raw, fermented or cooked just enough
to singe off fur and create a more chewable texture.
Many groups treated maggots as a meaty bonus.

Descriptions of these practices, which still occur in
some present-day Indigenous groups and among northern
Europeans who occasionally eat fermented fish, aren’t
likely to inspire any new Food Network shows or
cookbooks from celebrity chefs.
....
Given the ethnohistorical evidence, hominids living
3 million years ago or more could have scavenged meat
from decomposing carcasses, even without stone tools
for hunting or butchery, and eaten their raw haul
safely long before fire was used for cooking, Speth
contends. If simple stone tools appeared as early as
3.4 million years ago, as some researchers have
controversially suggested, those implements may have
been made by hominids seeking raw meat and marrow
....

Limits to the amount of daily protein that can be
safely consumed meant that ancient hunting groups,
like those today, needed animal fats and carbohydrates
from plants to fulfill daily calorie and other
nutritional needs.
....

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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 23:20 UTC

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/meat-rotten-putrid-paleo-diet-fire-neanderthal

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/0wIt0CHkcXI/m/D2al8AkNAQAJ

Same topic.

Maggots, btw, are edible and they're part of the post oil plan by our self proclaimed
overlords, at least for us "Bottom" 80 to 99% of the population. You can Google that
too. But they are a problem if you don't chew them properly, so I would not
recommend eating them and even our self proclaimed superiors are suggesting that
they be incorporated into sausage.

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/714153321890463744

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Tue, 11 Apr 2023 13:16 UTC

> Given the ethnohistorical evidence, hominids living
> 3 million years ago or more could have scavenged meat ...

Sigh. We're wasting our time with these idiots.
Ridiculous fantasy of kudu hunter, based on 0. Zero evidence.
Even if they "could" (what has ethno-hist.evidence to do with 3 Ma??), they didn't:
Pliocene Homo lived in S.Asian coastal forests, as everybody with a bit of insight knows:
google "aquarboreal".
There were a lot of animals well-adapted to "scavange meat", not our ancestors.

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