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* Human adaptation to diverse biomes over the past 3 million yearsPrimum Sapienti
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 by: Primum Sapienti - Sat, 13 May 2023 06:10 UTC

https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
Editor’s summary
Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.
Zeller et al. explored the movements of hominins
across and preferences for different biomes by
comparing six Homo species distributions from the
fossil record against simulated climate and
vegetation over the past 3 million years. They
found that some later species inhabited a broader
range of biomes as they spread to colder and more
forested areas, especially H. sapiens, which
settled in more extreme habitats (deserts and
tundra). In addition to adapting to changing
environmental conditions over time, models
suggest that Homo species may have preferentially
selected areas with more diverse habitats.
—Bianca Lopez

Full pdf

https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023

Abstract
To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
we identify past human habitat preferences over
time using a transient 3-million-year earth
system-biome model simulation and an extensive
hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
analysis shows that early African hominins
predominantly lived in open environments such as
grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
time. By linking the location and age of hominin
sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
we also find that our ancestors actively selected
for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.

Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Sat, 13 May 2023 07:36 UTC

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.

Wrong.

Besides the fact that there's an excellent case for "Out
of Asia," they only had to adapt to the waterside environment,
then spreading became an inescapable consequence.

...they picked up stuff & ate it. As soon as the pickings
grew too slim they moved on.

Occasionally groups would have pushed inland along
transitional wetlands and/or following fresh water outlets
backwards from the sea. This would have happened for
numerous reasons (conflict/natural disaster/etc), and once
inland they could have adapted and radiated.

The glacial/interglacial cycle would have assured such
inland "migrations" with the changes in sea level reshaping
their world.

Their brains would likely be smaller than their waterside
counterparts, with the loss of the very high protein, high
DHA diet, and interbreeding with earlier groups to have
split off would have further separated them from the mother
group.

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Sat, 13 May 2023 10:47 UTC

Op zaterdag 13 mei 2023 om 08:11:01 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
> https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

:-DDD
Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.

Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
-- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
-- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
-- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
-- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen

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JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
>> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.
>
> Wrong.

They *didn't* adapt? Well how about that.

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 by: Primum Sapienti - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 05:21 UTC

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op zaterdag 13 mei 2023 om 08:11:01 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
>> https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
>> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
>> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...
>
> :-DDD
> Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.
>
> Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
> -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
> -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
> -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
> -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
> Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen
>

Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
wrong on all counts

https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023

Abstract
To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
we identify past human habitat preferences over
time using a transient 3-million-year earth
system-biome model simulation and an extensive
hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
analysis shows that early African hominins
predominantly lived in open environments such as
grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
time. By linking the location and age of hominin
sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
we also find that our ancestors actively selected
for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.

Figure 1 shows locations where the various hominin species
have been found.

Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 07:23 UTC

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> JTEM is so reasonable wrote:

Allow me to add emphasis seeing how you have ZERO reading
comprehension and need these things explained...

> > Primum Sapienti wrote:
> >
> >> Early humans and their hominin relatives HAD TO
> >> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Besides the fact that there's an excellent case for "Out
> > of Asia," they only HAD TO adapt to the waterside environment,
> > then spreading became an inescapable consequence.

> They *didn't* adapt? Well how about that.

You have ZERO reading comprehension? Well how about that.

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/719764578437840896

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:38 UTC

Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 om 07:21:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:

> >> https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
> >> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
> >> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

> > :-DDD
> > Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.
> > Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
> > -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
> > -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
> > -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
> > -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
> > Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen

> Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
> wrong on all counts

:-DDD
Already caught your antelope, my little boy?
Grow up: retroviral data confirm our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa.
Zeller cs try to describe where "hominins" lived,
but using the word "hominin" already show their prejudices:
apiths were fossil relatives of Gorilla (E.Africa) or Pan (S.Africa),
this is shown in a lot of publications by different authors.
As every body knows, Pliocene Homo simply followed the S.Asian coasts -> SE..Asia Java:
early-Pleist.Java H.erectus was found amid marine & freshwater molluscs, e.g.

-Chemeron KNM-BC1 early Homo: ‘The Fish Beds […] seem to be almost entirely lacustrine and fluviatile; fish remains are abundant […] Molluscs also lived in the lake, and locally their remains accumulate to form shelly limestones’ (Martyn & Tobias 1967).
-Turkana Boy KNM-WT 15000 H.erectus: ‘Mammalian fossils are rare at this locality, the most abundant vertebrate fossils being parts of small and large fish. The depositional environment was evidently an alluvial plain of low relief […] Typical lacustrine forms (for example, ostracods, molluscs) could invade the area […] The only other fauna found so far in the fossiliferous bed are many opercula of the swamp snail Pila, a few bones of the catfish Synodontis and two fragments of indeterminate large mammal bone […]’ (Brown cs1985).
-Mojokerto H.erectus: ‘The basal part of the Putjangan Beds is composed of volcanic breccias containing marine and freshwater molluscs. The rest of the Putjangan Beds is composed of black clays of lacustrine origin’ (Ninkovich & Burckle 1987).
-Peking H.erectus: ‘A big river and possibly a lake were located to the east and contained various water species; along the shorelines grew reeds and plants, which were home for buffalo, deer, otters, beavers and other animals’ (Poirier 1978); ‘[…] accumulation in quiet water. The cave at this time was probably the locus of ponded water and was probably more open to the atmosphere’ (Weiner cs 1998).
-Hopefield, Rabat & Terra Amata: H.erectus fossils came from sandstone made up from dune sand resting upon a former sea beach (De Lumley, 1990). In Terra Amata, ‘there are also indications that the inhabitants ate oysters, mussels and limpets – shells of which are present. The presence of fish bones and fish vertebrae indicate that the population also fished’ (Poirier 1987).

IOW, only *incredible* imbeciles still believe their ancestors ran after antelopes.

Apith=Afr.ape ancestors, google "WHATtalk verhaegen".
Plio-Pleist.Homo evolution is not so difficult biologically:
-wading-climbing Pliocene hominids, google "aquarboreal",
-wading-diving early-Plest.Homo, google "pachyosteosclerosis",
-wading-walking late-Pleist.Homo, googl "gonwanatalks verhaegen".

But no: *your* ancestors were HUNTERS - with poor olfaction & fleshy noses....

:-DDD

______

> https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
> Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023
> To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
> diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
> we identify past human habitat preferences over
> time using a transient 3-million-year earth
> system-biome model simulation and an extensive
> hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
> analysis shows that early African hominins
> predominantly lived in open environments such as
> grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
> hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
> time. By linking the location and age of hominin
> sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
> we also find that our ancestors actively selected
> for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
> results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
> species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
> equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.
> Figure 1 shows locations where the various hominin species
> have been found.
> Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
> preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:01 UTC

I just sent thsi to prof.Zeller:

Dear professor Zeller & all co-authors,

I just read your very interesting article in Science,
"Human adaptation to diverse biomes over the past 3 million years".
I tried to send a comment, but it failed
therefore I sent something like this to sci.anthropology.paleo:

Retroviral data confirm our Pliocene ancestors were not in Africa
(Yohn CT cs 2005 PLoS Biol 3:1-11, Benveniste & Todaro 1976 Nature 261:101)
Your article tries to describe where "hominins" lived,
but using the word "hominin" already shows the prejudiced assumption that apiths were closer relatives of Homo than of Pan or Gorilla,
but detailed anatomical comparisons leave little doubt:
apiths were fossil relatives of Gorilla (E.Africa) or Pan (S.Africa initially), as shown in a lot of publications by different authors
(google e.g. "WHATtalk verhaegen").
Pliocene Homo simply followed the S.Asian coasts -> SE.Asia Java:
early-Pleist.Java H.erectus cs were found amid marine & freshwater molluscs, e.g.

-Chemeron KNM-BC1 early Homo: ‘The Fish Beds […] seem to be almost entirely lacustrine and fluviatile; fish remains are abundant […] Molluscs also lived in the lake, and locally their remains accumulate to form shelly limestones’ (Martyn & Tobias 1967).
-Turkana Boy KNM-WT 15000 H.erectus: ‘Mammalian fossils are rare at this locality, the most abundant vertebrate fossils being parts of small and large fish. The depositional environment was evidently an alluvial plain of low relief […] Typical lacustrine forms (for example, ostracods, molluscs) could invade the area […] The only other fauna found so far in the fossiliferous bed are many opercula of the swamp snail Pila, a few bones of the catfish Synodontis and two fragments of indeterminate large mammal bone […]’ (Brown cs1985).
-Mojokerto H.erectus: ‘The basal part of the Putjangan Beds is composed of volcanic breccias containing marine and freshwater molluscs. The rest of the Putjangan Beds is composed of black clays of lacustrine origin’ (Ninkovich & Burckle 1987).
-Peking H.erectus: ‘A big river and possibly a lake were located to the east and contained various water species; along the shorelines grew reeds and plants, which were home for buffalo, deer, otters, beavers and other animals’ (Poirier 1978); ‘[…] accumulation in quiet water. The cave at this time was probably the locus of ponded water and was probably more open to the atmosphere’ (Weiner cs 1998).
-Hopefield, Rabat & Terra Amata: H.erectus fossils came from sandstone made up from dune sand resting upon a former sea beach (De Lumley, 1990). In Terra Amata, ‘there are also indications that the inhabitants ate oysters, mussels and limpets – shells of which are present. The presence of fish bones and fish vertebrae indicate that the population also fished’ (Poirier 1987).

Modern insight in ape & human evolution:
1) apiths=Afr.ape ancestors, google "WHATtalk verhaegen".
2) Plio-Pleist.Homo evolution biologically:
-wading-climbing Pliocene hominids, google "aquarboreal",
-wading-diving early-Plest.Homo, google "pachyosteosclerosis",
-wading-walking late-Pleist.Homo, googl "gonwanatalks verhaegen".

The traditional assumption that Plio-Pleistocenecene human ancestors were regular hunters is ridiculous:
e.g. humans have poor olfaction and evolved vulnerable fleshy noses...
Our large brain (DHA), fur loss, SC fat layer etc. leave no doubt: we were waterside.
In fact, H.erectus was pachy-osteo-sclerotic, which is exclusvely seen in tetrapods that frequently dive for shallow-aquatic foods, in the case of H.erectus no doubt incl.shellfish, see e.g. shellfish engravings (google "Joordens Munro"), island colonizations (Flores 18 km oversea) etc.

When will paleo-anthropologists accept what is biologically obvious?
Homo ancestors have always been waterside!

With best wishes --marc verhaegen

_____

Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 om 07:21:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
> littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Op zaterdag 13 mei 2023 om 08:11:01 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
> >> https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
> >> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
> >> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...
> >
> > :-DDD
> > Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.
> >
> > Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
> > -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
> > -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
> > -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
> > -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
> > Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen
> >
> Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
> wrong on all counts
> https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
> Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023
>
> Abstract
> To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
> diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
> we identify past human habitat preferences over
> time using a transient 3-million-year earth
> system-biome model simulation and an extensive
> hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
> analysis shows that early African hominins
> predominantly lived in open environments such as
> grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
> hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
> time. By linking the location and age of hominin
> sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
> we also find that our ancestors actively selected
> for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
> results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
> species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
> equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.
> Figure 1 shows locations where the various hominin species
> have been found.
> Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
> preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 om 07:21:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
>
>
>>>> https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
>>>> Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
>>>> adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...
>
>>> :-DDD
>>> Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.
>>> Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
>>> -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
>>> -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
>>> -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
>>> -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
>>> Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen
>
>> Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
>> wrong on all counts
>
> :-DDD
> Already caught your antelope, my little boy?

Found your snorkel nose, child?

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Primum Sapienti wrote:

> Found your snorkel nose, child?

Aquatic Ape doesn't need to satisfy you. And doesn't even
need to be good. It just needs to be better than the
alternative, which it is.

-- --

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/721666107169292289

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Op zondag 2 juli 2023 om 12:48:33 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

savanna fool:
> > Found your snorkel nose, child?

> Aquatic Ape doesn't need to satisfy you. And doesn't even
> need to be good. It just needs to be better than the
> alternative, which it is.

Of course, but the savanna fools believe humans evolved projecting noses (in archaic Homo + mid-facial prognathism) to run after antelopes... :-DDD

What we're saying is not difficult at all, yet these idiots keep running over savannas with big noses & flat feet, sweating water+salt... :-DDD

Ape+human evolution (my 2022 book) schematically, very short:
- wading-climbing Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, google “aquarboreal”
- wading-diving early-Pleistocene Homo, e.g. H.erectus, google “pachyosteosclerosis”
- wading-walking late-Pleistocene Homo, google “gondwanatalks Verhaegen Bonne”
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

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On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 11:11:01 PM UTC-7, Primum Sapienti wrote:

our ancestors actively selected
> for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
> results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
> species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
> equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.

This is worthless speculation. Quite obviously hominids are communally territorialistic. Quite obviously this is the result of extreme seasonality and deadly dry seasons. All highly season habitats are mosaic. So the notion that hominids sought mosaic habitat is to put the cart before the horse. Hominids sought resources. And there are a lot of resources available in seasonal habitats IF they were able to survive the dry season, which hey achieved through communal territorialism, just like we do now.

PA is dominated by dimwits who actually believe the dumbed-down, vague notions they feed the public.

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 by: Primum Sapienti - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 05:32 UTC

JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
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>> Found your snorkel nose, child?
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> Aquatic Ape

Oh, I forgot; you're retarded.

Why are you here? You demonstrate ZERO interest in these topics, you
post random, irrelevant "cites" you never read and couldn't understand
anyway AND you engage in infantile behavior.

Go away.

We're always so kind to you, so polite, despite your many obvious
flaws... your many, many flaws... many, many, many, many flaws...

Anyhow, we're always so cordial, pretending not to notice the
drool, never asking about the stains on the front of your pants,
and yet you return our charity with such rudeness! Did they teach
you nothing at that trailer park?

You don't make a good parrot, bird brain.

The gravity of the situation, vis a vis your mental health, is
troubling to say the least.

Look. You're an idiot. There's no denying that.

Lord knows you're not bright, and you're unaware of this fact (despite
the constant reminders).

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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 07:16 UTC

Primum Sapienti wrote:

[...]

You've given up even trying. Why don't you take your meds and explain
to your mental health provider that you're backsliding again.

OCPD is not an argument.

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