Google
"aquarboreal"
"gondwana bonne verhaegen"
:-)

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Google
> "aquarboreal"
> "gondwana bonne verhaegen"
> :-)

I honestly do like your idea that Australopithecus is the
ancestor to apes. This may be slightly related to the fact
that it's 100% in line with my idea that humans invented
Chimpanzees.

Australopithecus was a successful "species"... genus?

It spread wide, apparently entered a number of environments,
niches. So it does fit my model for the invention of chimps
where Homo out competed with the -- likely at it -- until there
reached a point where only the forest population survived.

I never bothered with pinning a name on whatever species
(genus) this happened with but, my model fits yours like a
glove. So, yeah, I like it.

Not sure if the JTEM Seal of Approval is a blessing or a
curse but, for what it's worth...

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Op donderdag 1 juni 2023 om 02:33:20 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
> littor...@gmail.com wrote:

> > Google
> > "aquarboreal"
> > "gondwana bonne verhaegen"
> > :-)

> I honestly do like your idea that Australopithecus is the
> ancestor to apes.

:-) I didn't say that "Australopithecus" is ancestral to the African apes: Pan is a closer relative of Homo than Gorilla is, IOW, australopiths are "paraphyletic":
australopiths are not 1 group of very closely related animals, but we have 2 groups (genera):
Gorilla a'piths evolved independently but in parallel with Pan a'piths, IOW, the word "australopithecine" is wrong:
detailed comparisons leave no doubt IMO:
E.Afr.a'piths Gorilla fossil subgenus Praeanthropus (as I'd call it) evolved in parallel with S.Afr.a'piths Pan fossil subgenus Australopithecus,
e.g. late-Pliocene afarensis//africanus --> early-Pleistocene boisei//robustus.
This makes it somewhat difficult for some people...
In short: IMO (see my Hum.Evol.papers etc.),
- late-Miocene hominids HPG still lived in Red Sea forests, google "aquarboreal",
- 8 or 7 Ma Gorilla-Praeanthropus split off & followed the northern-Rift-->Afar: afarensis --> boisei --> gorillas.
- 5.33 Ma the Zanclean mega-flood opnened the Red Sea into the Gulf/Aden (dixit Francesca Mansfield):
-- Pliocene Homo went left initially --> S.Asian coastal forests --> early-Pleist.H.erectus shellfish-diving ("aq.ape"),
-- Pliocene Pan went right --> E.Afr.coastal forests --> southern-Rift --> Pan-Australopith.africanus --> robustus --> chimps+bonobos.

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> This may be slightly related to the fact
> that it's 100% in line with my idea that humans invented
> Chimpanzees.
> Australopithecus was a successful "species"... genus?
> It spread wide, apparently entered a number of environments,
> niches. So it does fit my model for the invention of chimps
> where Homo out competed with the -- likely at it -- until there
> reached a point where only the forest population survived.
> I never bothered with pinning a name on whatever species
> (genus) this happened with but, my model fits yours like a
> glove. So, yeah, I like it.

> Not sure if the JTEM Seal of Approval is a blessing or a
> curse but, for what it's worth...

:-)