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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 06:21 UTC

: 5 Ridiculously Simple Animal Traps and Snares for
: Outdoor Survival

https://www.primalsurvivor.net/simple-animal-traps-snares/

Or do you prefer something a little more industrialist?

https://youtu.be/TwuyiIfHTWE

That guy calls himself "Caveman Cody" and it does beg
the question: Could early Homo have used traps and,
if not, why not?

Obviously the simplest "Trap" is a hole, and it is claimed
that such "Traps" were used to trap Mammoths. But that
was "Modern Man" Doing the Google just now, I couldn't
find anything older than 5k years old, not in all of my
exhaustive 30-second search!

(May have been a minutes, I dunno)

Point is, they tell us that Naledi could breath smoke, that
they dragged dead antelope through passageways we
moderns can barely manage, that they intentionally
buried their dead -- implying symbolic thinking -- and NOW
they even claim that they had a form or proto writing;
carved symbols commemorating the dead...

People will believe *Anything*! Doesn't matter how insane
it is, all that counts is the source. And if the precious media
oops I meant "Science" orders them to think that heat
causes cold, or drinking milk is racists or Naledi flew from
hilltops on hang gliders then THAT is what people believe.

But what about traps?

I suppose the /Real/ question here isn't if they used them
but how might we today go about proving it if they did?

I'm not a paleoanthropologist so I actually care about science.

So, how do we determine if traps were used?

I suppose we'd have to first determine the environment, the
fawna. We'd need to determine WHAT animals were present.

Secondly, we'd have to make some guesses. I mean, WHICH
of the animals would they have preferred? WHICH would be
the most susceptible to traps, most likely to fall prey to one?

Thirdly, we'd need to determine what traps would be lost
likely used.

Finally, we'd need to determine what the tell tale signs of
such a trap would look like on the animal remains: Fossils,
for example.

These are not easy questions to answer and in some
cases we might have to ignore the answers!

Check this out:

https://youtu.be/1c4x1BhIYfw

A rabbit snare might be impossible to detect from our
side of the Looking Glass. There's a good chance that
it might not even kill the rabbit, that the hunter snaps
it's neck, bashes it with a rock or stabs it... which is
indistinguishable from a spear, a rock throw or even a
throwing stick, right?

We'd like have to cherry pick our traps, selecting only
the traps that might leave behind evidence we could
find today.

My second cite, the video on the "Spanish Trap" is a
good example. It seems a tad more involved than is
necessary, but it gives us a type of wound to look for,
and a location.

Pitfalls are also great because we would normally not
expect animals to fall from any height that might injure
them. Not ordinarily. It is a specific type of injury to
look for.

Any ideas?

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