Blue Mail freezes when trying to install Google account on both mobile and
tablet.
--
Jim S

Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote in
news:obvh2xdnsj6r$.myzkfoesuv7l.dlg@40tude.net:

> Blue Mail freezes when trying to install Google account on both
> mobile and tablet.

I gave up on Blue Mail a couple of years ago. Different problem but a
problem is a problem. Unfortunately I didn't find a decent
replacement and am with the gmail app as a like it or not choice.
Because of that I usually have gmail off and hardly ever read email
via phone.

--
Steve (--)

I filter using XNEWS.
If you expect a response and don't see it,
don't take it personally.

Yakker wrote on 05.07.2021 00:25
> I gave up on Blue Mail a couple of years ago. Different problem but a
> problem is a problem. Unfortunately I didn't find a decent
> replacement and am with the gmail app as a like it or not choice.
> Because of that I usually have gmail off and hardly ever read email
> via phone.

The problem (as I see it) with the "Gmail app" is that it does things that
no mail user agent should do, and worse, you can't stop it from doing them.

That leaves only a few MUAs for Android that are acceptable mail clients.

Offhand, the only decent MUAs I can think of, are FairEmail & K-9 Mail.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9

Although a quick search finds others.
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-best-five-email-clients-for-android/
1. Gmail
2. Blue Mail
3. K-9 Mail
4. Nine <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3>
5. myMail <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.my.mail>

Plenty of others
https://clean.email/best-email-apps-for-android
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-email-apps-579368/
https://www.mobileappdaily.com/best-email-apps-for-android

On 05/07/2021 08.52, paul wrote:
> Yakker wrote on 05.07.2021 00:25
>> I gave up on Blue Mail a couple of years ago. Different problem but a
>> problem is a problem. Unfortunately I didn't find a decent
>> replacement and am with the gmail app as a like it or not choice.
>> Because of that I usually have gmail off and hardly ever read email
>> via phone.
>
> The problem (as I see it) with the "Gmail app" is that it does things that
> no mail user agent should do, and worse, you can't stop it from doing them.

Meaning? :-?

>
> That leaves only a few MUAs for Android that are acceptable mail clients.
>
> Offhand, the only decent MUAs I can think of, are FairEmail & K-9 Mail.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9

I find K-9 very good - but of course I prefer a computer for email. The
phone is basically for emergencies, or not being at home.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:25:03 +0000 (UTC), Yakker wrote:

> Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote in
> news:obvh2xdnsj6r$.myzkfoesuv7l.dlg@40tude.net:
>
>> Blue Mail freezes when trying to install Google account on both
>> mobile and tablet.
>
>
> I gave up on Blue Mail a couple of years ago. Different problem but a
> problem is a problem. Unfortunately I didn't find a decent
> replacement and am with the gmail app as a like it or not choice.
> Because of that I usually have gmail off and hardly ever read email
> via phone.

I have been using Edison Email (hhttps://mail.edison.tech/) for a while now
and it seems to do everything I need and more.
However when use it to write an email and include my own gmail address, it
suggests versions of my address that make no sense to me. I don't know
whether this is a concern?
--
Jim S

Am 05.07.21 um 09:42 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> On 05/07/2021 08.52, paul wrote:
>> Offhand, the only decent MUAs I can think of, are FairEmail & K-9 Mail.
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
>
> I find K-9 very good - but of course I prefer a computer for email. The
> phone is basically for emergencies, or not being at home.

I agree. E-mail on a smart phone? Not really! Just to check and read but
never to write an e-mail. That's done on a real keyboard and a resonable
screen.

Bluemail works perfectly for me on my Pixel4. I switched from the
complicated and confusing K-9 to Bluemail.

GMail is not an option for me. It never was and will never be.

Am 05.07.21 um 10:35 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> Am 05.07.21 um 09:42 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>> On 05/07/2021 08.52, paul wrote:
>>> Offhand, the only decent MUAs I can think of, are FairEmail & K-9 Mail.
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
>>
>> I find K-9 very good - but of course I prefer a computer for email. The
>> phone is basically for emergencies, or not being at home.
>
>
> I agree. E-mail on a smart phone? Not really! Just to check and read but
> never to write an e-mail. That's done on a real keyboard and a resonable
> screen.
>
> Bluemail works perfectly for me on my Pixel4. I switched from the
> complicated and confusing K-9 to Bluemail.
>
> GMail is not an option for me. It never was and will never be.

BTW: Most of the time I use an iPhone. Apple iOS-Mail is far superior to
everything I have seen on Android. On Android the choices are just
between Cholera or Typhus as far as e-mail is concerned.

This is also valid for a news-client.

Jim S wrote on 05.07.2021 04:10
> I have been using Edison Email (hhttps://mail.edison.tech/) for a while now
> and it seems to do everything I need and more.
> However when use it to write an email and include my own gmail address, it
> suggests versions of my address that make no sense to me. I don't know
> whether this is a concern?

I wondered why "Edison Mail" didn't show up in my _initial_ searches...

If we search using our Android Google Play client for MUAs that are...
a. Google free
b. Allow F-Droid apps
c. GSF free
d. No money asked
e. No ads
f. Allow only rating of 4+
g. Allow only downloads of 1M+

Nothing comes up; but if we simply relax the Allow Downloads to 100K+
Tutanota pops up in that search:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tutao.tutanota

If we further relax the filter to Allow 100K+ downloads, then
K-9, MaaS360, Clean Email, and CipherMail show up but not all are MUAs
so I'll strip out the results that are simply filters or MUA addons...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fiberlink.maas360.android.pim

As we further relax the filters to allow Ratings of 3+ FairEmail shows up
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email

Relaxing the Allowed Downloads to 50K+ brings up a FOSS Open Mail client
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deependhulla.opemail

Dropping Downloads to 10K+ and leaving ratings at 3+ is as low as I like
to go, which brings up garbage that is only partly related to email.

Bringing up the downloads back to 50K+ & the ratings to 4+ but relaxing the
*GSF requirement* (keeping apps with ads out of the results) we get too many
results, including Samsung Email, Email Blue Email, Spark Email, etc.

To cut down on the number of results, I brought up the Downloads to 1M+
which still has too many results so I upped it to 10M+ which showed only
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.email.provider

Which makes the bell curve peak at GSF dependent, not paid, no ads, no
Google Apps, F-Droid ok, Ratings of 4+ and Downloads of 1M+ adding, finally,
the suggested Edison Mail application, among others such as Email Blue
Email, Spark Email, TypeApp mail, Proton Mail, Nine, Zoho, Mailwise
Exchange, etc.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easilydo.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.readdle.spark
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trtf.blue
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.protonmail.android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
etc.

At this point we're likely past the top tip of the bell curve
and therefore at the point of diminishing search result value.

Is anyone using a mail user agent NOT in that list above?
Why?

Joerg Lorenz wrote on 05.07.2021 10:42
> Apple iOS-Mail is far superior to
> everything I have seen on Android.

In what way, specifically, is Apple iOS Mail "superior" to Android MUAs?

Given you're a moron, it will be _interesting_ to see what you claim.

I openly doubt you will be able to claim a _single_ fact that intelligent
people would agree with, given your credibility is less than worthless.
--
The dozen Apologists only know what Tim Cook's Apple web site has fed them.
It's doubtful even a single apologist below has so much as a college degree.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

Carlos E.R. wrote on 05.07.2021 09:42
>> The problem (as I see it) with the "Gmail app" is that it does things that
>> no mail user agent should do, and worse, you can't stop it from doing them.
>
> Meaning? :-?

Hi Carlos,

You know my credibility is stellar and that I check up on my facts so rest
assured I reported the issues with Google's GMail app when they happened.

You know I don't say things I haven't personally tested, and you know I've
never been found (in decades of posting to Usenet) to have claimed an
incorrect fact.

You also may be aware that my phones never have a Google Account set in the
operating system (I can have as many Google Accounts as I like but I simply
do not set the operating system to any accounts, Samsung or Google alike).

You also may be aware that I'm particularly interested in preserving my
privacy, even when using a phone (which is an inherently difficult task).

In addition, I'm a well behaved phone user in that I don't upload my
neighbors', friends', and family private details to Google simply by walking
past or inside their houses, or simply by having their contact information
(and that of their kids for example) on my phone (which is a courtesy most
phone users don't extend back to me, as you may well be aware.

I even have my phone set to mock the location by default (as you are well
aware) so that Google apps (such as Google Maps) will get the wrong initial
location when the app itself sets sneaky permissions that no other map app
sets (which allows me to unset thos sneaky permissions _before_ Google Maps
gets an accurate fix on me in their public databases)...

I bring up all those things above because Google Apps habitually violate all
those privacy tenets when the Android phone is configured the way "most"
people configure it.

Most of these "bad things" happen at the _instant_ the Google app is
launched, and _that_ is what happens when the GMail app is launched, last I
checked extensively (which is a while ago).

Given my phone is configured _not_ to upload my contacts to Google...
And give my phone is configured _not_ to have a Google Account set...

Last I checked (which I reported to this ng at that time), the _instant_ I
ran the GMail app, two things happened that violated my privacy:
1. GMail set the default account on the phone operating system!
2. Gmail uploaded my contacts even though I had all sync settings off!

Since my credibility is the most valuable thing I own, Carlos, rest assured
I reported on _both_ those horrid privacy intrusions at the time I tested it
but also rest assured that this isn't information you'll easily find on the
net.

Also be advised that I instantly stopped using the Gmail app when I couldn't
get past those two horrid privacy flaws, whereas, for example, I can easily
get past the horrid privacy flaws in the Google Maps app (e.g., by setting
Mock Location by default).

SO I haven't tested the Gmail app since I found out about those two privacy
flaws, and, interestingly, I haven't seen any reports of what I'm reporting
to you above on the net, but I haven't seen any reports from anyone who
knows more than I do, so I haven't found contradictory reports either.

You may wonder why I didn't list these two things in my first post on this
topic, and then you may wonder why the long response to your incredulous
query, where the reasons are that my credibility matters to me so I want you
to be aware of these facts as I see them, as listed above, in detail.

I am well aware you're a despicable person, Carlos, not unlike the
unprepossessing apologists, and certainly very much like the moron Joerg
Lorenz, so consider yourself a lucky individual indeed that I invested this
much time edifying you on what I long ago _already_ explained in further
detail (yes, screenshots and version numbers and everything).

Rest assured, I have good reason for shunning both you & the Gmail app
Carlos.

> I find K-9 very good - but of course I prefer a computer for email. The
> phone is basically for emergencies, or not being at home.

Like you, and others, I use the phone's email only when an email is
critical, which, for me, as a retired person, is infrequent at best.

In another post I listed, in detail, with links, the email apps which show
up in intelligent searches from the phone of the Google Play apps which have
millions of downloads, and 4+ ratings, and yet which are Google free, GSF
free, ad free, payware free, etc. (which were found in _this_ order below)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tutao.tutanota
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fiberlink.maas360.android.pim
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deependhulla.opemail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.email.provider
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easilydo.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.readdle.spark
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trtf.blue
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.protonmail.android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
etc.

At this point we're likely past the top tip of the bell curve
and therefore at the point of diminishing search result value.

Is anyone using a mail user agent NOT in that list above?
Why?

On 07/05/2021 01:35 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 05.07.21 um 09:42 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>> On 05/07/2021 08.52, paul wrote:
>>> Offhand, the only decent MUAs I can think of, are FairEmail & K-9 Mail.
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
>>
>> I find K-9 very good - but of course I prefer a computer for email. The
>> phone is basically for emergencies, or not being at home.
>
> I agree. E-mail on a smart phone? Not really! Just to check and read but
> never to write an e-mail. That's done on a real keyboard and a resonable
> screen.

Yes in spades on a Model M keyboard!

> Bluemail works perfectly for me on my Pixel4. I switched from the
> complicated and confusing K-9 to Bluemail.

I've used Bluemail since I've had a smartphone -- 14 years (cheap BLU
phone, Moto G2 and G5, Pixel 2) -- with no problem. I chose it because
I wanted an app that only downloaded mail when I asked, and gmail
insisted on ALWAYS downloading to my phone. I have only two gmail
accounts on the phone -- the others stay on the computer.

> GMail is not an option for me. It never was and will never be.

The app or actual gmail accounts?

--
Cheers, Bev
That's my opinion. Ought to be yours.

In article <sbvaj5$3ko$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've used Bluemail since I've had a smartphone -- 14 years (cheap BLU
> phone, Moto G2 and G5, Pixel 2) -- with no problem. I chose it because
> I wanted an app that only downloaded mail when I asked, and gmail
> insisted on ALWAYS downloading to my phone.

it doesn't insist on anything. *you* configured it to do that.

> I have only two gmail
> accounts on the phone -- the others stay on the computer.

actually, they're on google's servers.

The Real Bev wrote on 05.07.2021 18:04
>> GMail is not an option for me. It never was and will never be.
>
> The app or actual gmail accounts?

IMHO, we should strive to use "GMail" when we're talking about the app.
Otherwise, we'd use "Google Account" when we're talking about the account.

Personally, I don't like that the GMail app _insisted_ on uploading my
contacts even when I had explicitly set all auto sync options off (last I
had tested it extensively).

Also, the GMail app, last I tested it, _insisted_ on automatically
_creating_ an account on the Android phone, the _instant_ I used the app.

*For those two reasons alone, the GMail app isn't used on my phone.*

Luckily, as noted, I listed more than a dozen usable mail user agents.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.protonmail.android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deependhulla.opemail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easilydo.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fiberlink.maas360.android.pim
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.readdle.spark
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.email.provider
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trtf.blue
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tutao.tutanota
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail
etc.

Is anyone using an Android mail user agent NOT in that list above?
Why?

paul wrote on 05.07.2021 20:02
> Is anyone using an Android mail user agent NOT in that list above?

Correction! (given my credibility is stellar and shall remain so)

Separately, nospam pointed out that protonmail & MaaS360 shouldn't
be in that list of mail user agents generated by a search on Google Play.

So that leaves the following dozen well-known free no ads MUAs to consider:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deependhulla.opemail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easilydo.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.readdle.spark
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.email.provider
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trtf.blue
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tutao.tutanota
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail
Is anyone using an Android mail user agent NOT in that list above?
What do you like about that particular MUA compared to those above?

In article <sbvjt6$1pqn$1@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

> > Is anyone using an Android mail user agent NOT in that list above?
>
> Correction! (given my credibility is stellar and shall remain so)
>
> Separately, nospam pointed out that protonmail & MaaS360 shouldn't
> be in that list of mail user agents generated by a search on Google Play.

i did not say any such thing.

what i said was that at least three apps in your list are not general
purpose email apps and restricted to only one service and at least one
other is more invasive than google's gmail app. i did not name any app
in particular.

given your response and your lies, your 'stellar credibility' remains
at zero, and if it were possible to go negative, it would have.

> So that leaves the following dozen well-known free no ads MUAs to consider:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deependhulla.opemail
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easilydo.mail
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.readdle.spark
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.email.provid
> er
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trtf.blue
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.mail
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tutao.tutanota
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail
>
> Is anyone using an Android mail user agent NOT in that list above?
> What do you like about that particular MUA compared to those above?

nospam wrote on 05.07.2021 20:59
> what i said was that at least three apps in your list are not general
> purpose email apps and restricted to only one service and at least one
> other is more invasive than google's gmail app. i did not name any app
> in particular.

Which of the 12 search results below do you claim fit your accusation above?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deependhulla.opemail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easilydo.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.readdle.spark
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.email.provider
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trtf.blue
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tutao.tutanota
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail

On 05/07/2021 20.44, paul wrote:
> paul wrote on 05.07.2021 20:02
>> Is anyone using an Android mail user agent NOT in that list above?
>
> Correction! (given my credibility is stellar and shall remain so)

Who, paul? paul is new here, so he doesn't have any credibility or lack
of it yet. No history. Or do you accept that you were known previously
as Arlen, and previously as harry newton, Harold Newton, Tomos Davies,
Lionel Muller, Arlen Holder, arlen michael holder, Arlen G. Holder, and
others...

Arlen has no credibility, proven by the fact that he had to flee and
change his name one more time, in order to escape the filtering and
blacklists.

Arlen, you do not define that you yourself has credibility and
reputation. Only others, that is, we, can do that for you.

Now, get into another tantrum and accuse me of being a child or worse.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Carlos E.R. wrote on 06.07.2021 05:56
> Now, get into another tantrum and accuse me of being a child or worse.

What matters is what people say, Carlos (not what their headers are).
What matters is the _value_ that people provide to the topic at hand.

Carlos - please _try_ to understand what I'm patiently explaining to you.

Adults will notice Carlos asked a question and Carlos received a rather
detailed response to the _exact_ question that Carlos had asked about.

This answer was based on experience, and has been reported in the past, so
Carlos should be thankful that anyone bothered to answer his question.

And yet, adults will notice how Carlos _instantly_ reacted to that kindness.

Does Carlos provide thanks for the kindness rendered? No.
Does Carlos acknowledge he received the answer he requested? No.
Does Carlos simply post kindergarten cesspool comments? Yes.

*What is Carlos so _ashamed_ of that he acts the way he just did?*
a. He asked a question and he received an answer.
b. Rather than thanks (or silence), he taunts the person who helped him.

Any adult would merely need to point to Carlos' own words to prove that.

What is Carlos so ashamed of?
Why is Carlos ashamed that simply pointing to his words proves what he is?

Carlos is so ashamed of what he is that he took the words out of my mouth.
--
What Carlos is, is easily proven simply by pointing to Carlos' own words.

On 7/6/2021 10:48 AM, paul wrote:
> What Carlos is, is easily proven simply by pointing to Carlos' own words.

Carlos is a troll.
If you'd stop responding to Carlos the rest of us wouldn't have to see it.

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:53:12 -0400, knuttle wrote:

> On 7/6/2021 10:48 AM, paul wrote:
>> What Carlos is, is easily proven simply by pointing to Carlos' own words.
>
> Carlos is a troll.
> If you'd stop responding to Carlos the rest of us wouldn't have to see it.

Be careful you are not falling into the same trap :)
--
Jim S

On 7/6/2021 8:16 PM, Jim S wrote:
>> On 7/6/2021 10:48 AM, paul wrote:
>>> What Carlos is, is easily proven simply by pointing to Carlos' own words.
>>
>> Carlos is a troll.
>> If you'd stop responding to Carlos the rest of us wouldn't have to see it.
>
> Be careful you are not falling into the same trap :)

Your advice is well taken that just reacting to Carlos's trolls is to
further perpetuate Carlos's trolls and therefore I will stop the feeding of
this Carlos troll once and for all with an edit of my killfile settings.

I learned some things from this thread, but nothing from Carlos.
What did you learn in this thread that you can summarize for me?

On 05/07/2021 17.15, paul wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on 05.07.2021 09:42
>>> The problem (as I see it) with the "Gmail app" is that it does things that
>>> no mail user agent should do, and worse, you can't stop it from doing them.
>>
>> Meaning? :-?
>
> Hi Carlos,
>
> You know my credibility is stellar

Not at all. That you feel inclined to claim so is not a thing a good
person does.

> and that I check up on my facts so rest

Facts? You? :-D

> assured I reported the issues with Google's GMail app when they happened.
>
> You know I don't say things I haven't personally tested, and you know I've
> never been found (in decades of posting to Usenet) to have claimed an
> incorrect fact.
>
> You also may be aware that my phones never have a Google Account set in the
> operating system (I can have as many Google Accounts as I like but I simply
> do not set the operating system to any accounts, Samsung or Google alike).
>
> You also may be aware that I'm particularly interested in preserving my
> privacy, even when using a phone (which is an inherently difficult task).
>
> In addition, I'm a well behaved phone user in that I don't upload my
> neighbors', friends', and family private details to Google simply by walking
> past or inside their houses, or simply by having their contact information
> (and that of their kids for example) on my phone (which is a courtesy most
> phone users don't extend back to me, as you may well be aware.

Your post is way to long to read, I stop here. Sorry.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 06/07/2021 16.48, paul wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on 06.07.2021 05:56
>> Now, get into another tantrum and accuse me of being a child or worse.
>
> What matters is what people say, Carlos (not what their headers are).
> What matters is the _value_ that people provide to the topic at hand.
>
> Carlos - please _try_ to understand what I'm patiently explaining to you.
>
> Adults will notice Carlos

And here you go. As expected (talking of adults).

Ignoring the rest. And others that agree with you.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 06/07/2021 20.38, knuttle wrote:
> On 7/6/2021 8:16 PM, Jim S wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2021 10:48 AM, paul wrote:
>>>> What Carlos is, is easily proven simply by pointing to Carlos' own
>>>> words.
>>>
>>> Carlos is a troll.
>>> If you'd stop responding to Carlos the rest of us wouldn't have to
>>> see it.
>>
>> Be careful you are not falling into the same trap :)
>
> Your advice is well taken that just reacting to Carlos's trolls is to
> further perpetuate Carlos's trolls and therefore I will stop the feeding of
> this Carlos troll once and for all with an edit of my killfile settings.
>
> I learned some things from this thread, but nothing from Carlos.
> What did you learn in this thread that you can summarize for me?

Huh. I will have to move you to the kill file. New troll found.

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Cheers, Carlos.

Carlos E.R. wrote on 07.07.2021 00:10
> Your post is way to long to read, I stop here. Sorry.

Adults can ask what value did you, Carlos, add to this thread topic?

The answer will always be the same as if adults had asked what value you
_ever_ add to _any_ thread topic on this newsgroup, Carlos.

The answer is/was and always will be === zero.

Compare that to the immense value that I had added to this thread Carlos.
And that is the difference between me and you worthless pieces of shit.
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The proof that Carlos is a troll is in his lack of value in every post.