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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Sun, 9 Jul 2023 03:23 UTC

https://youtu.be/u6kc7rEQXpI

This guy is an authority. He's an "Influencer." He's
over educated and in the spotlight, And he's
absolutely wrong.

No, I'm not out of line. I'm not being unfair or
speaking out of turn or ignorance. The guy is
absolutely frigging WRONG!

He's go this model where Chimps and Gorillas
and Lucy's ilk all start in the forest, in the trees,
and then move to a savanna.

Utter nonsense.

Look. Bipedalism is older than Chimps. The
Chimps moved TO not away from the forest.

The ancestor to Chimps was bipedal, and
evolved AWAY from bipedalism and to knuckle
walking as an adaptation to the forest.

The video likens Lucy's life to that of modern
Chimps... more than once.

Australopithecus Naledi:

The video mentions this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makapansgat_pebble

The video doesn't put the pieces together, it's all
about propaganda and not science, but there's
this claim that Australopithecus lived in caves.

Hello? Naledi? Hello?

Anyway, enjoy the video. Tear it apart.

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/722141766714818560

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Sun, 9 Jul 2023 08:22 UTC

Thanks, JTEM, some of them will never learn
(not stupid I suppose/hope, but incredibly biased=prejudiced: afro+anthropo-centrism:
e.g. apiths are no human ancestors, but fossil relatives of Pan or Gorilla, aquarboreal).
It's really not so difficult:
-Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea often vertically waded-climbed in swamp?coastal forests, google "aquarboreal"
-early-Pleist.Homo esp.erectus also frequently dived for shellfish etc., google "pachyosteosclerosis"
-late-Pleist.Homo, e.g.neanderth., waded+walked often bipedally, google "gondwanatalk verhaegen".

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Op zondag 9 juli 2023 om 05:23:25 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
> https://youtu.be/u6kc7rEQXpI
>
> This guy is an authority. He's an "Influencer." He's
> over educated and in the spotlight, And he's
> absolutely wrong.
>
> No, I'm not out of line. I'm not being unfair or
> speaking out of turn or ignorance. The guy is
> absolutely frigging WRONG!
>
> He's go this model where Chimps and Gorillas
> and Lucy's ilk all start in the forest, in the trees,
> and then move to a savanna.
>
> Utter nonsense.
>
> Look. Bipedalism is older than Chimps. The
> Chimps moved TO not away from the forest.
>
> The ancestor to Chimps was bipedal, and
> evolved AWAY from bipedalism and to knuckle
> walking as an adaptation to the forest.
>
> The video likens Lucy's life to that of modern
> Chimps... more than once.
>
> Australopithecus Naledi:
>
> The video mentions this:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makapansgat_pebble
>
> The video doesn't put the pieces together, it's all
> about propaganda and not science, but there's
> this claim that Australopithecus lived in caves.
>
> Hello? Naledi? Hello?
>
> Anyway, enjoy the video. Tear it apart.
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/722141766714818560

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On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT), JTEM is so reasonable
<jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://youtu.be/u6kc7rEQXpI
>
>This guy is an authority. He's an "Influencer." He's
>over educated and in the spotlight, And he's
>absolutely wrong.

Apparently he has a B.A. in archeology from the Universty of Sheffield
(2007 - 2010), but has been a IRA & Data Processing Specialist from
2016 onwards.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-milosavljevich-97ab82116

Anyway, there's a disclaimer below the video:

"Use my videos as a rough guide to a topic. I am not an expert, I may
get things wrong. This is why I always post my sources so you can
critique my work and verify things for yourselves. Of course I aim to
be as accurate as possible which is why you will only find reputable
sources in my videos. Secondly, information is always subject to
changes as new information is uncovered by archaeologists."

That's considerably more modest than the AAT-propagandists.

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Sun, 9 Jul 2023 10:41 UTC

Op zondag 9 juli 2023 om 12:30:13 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT), JTEM is so reasonable
> <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://youtu.be/u6kc7rEQXpI
> >
> >This guy is an authority. He's an "Influencer." He's
> >over educated and in the spotlight, And he's
> >absolutely wrong.
> Apparently he has a B.A. in archeology from the Universty of Sheffield
> (2007 - 2010), but has been a IRA & Data Processing Specialist from
> 2016 onwards.
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-milosavljevich-97ab82116
>
> Anyway, there's a disclaimer below the video:
>
> "Use my videos as a rough guide to a topic. I am not an expert, I may
> get things wrong. This is why I always post my sources so you can
> critique my work and verify things for yourselves. Of course I aim to
> be as accurate as possible which is why you will only find reputable
> sources in my videos. Secondly, information is always subject to
> changes as new information is uncovered by archaeologists."
>
> That's considerably more modest than the AAT-propagandists.

:-)
Archeol.evidence only?? Fossil evidence!
And perhaps most important: comparative-biological evidence:
Humans are fat, slow, naked, large-brained: we obviously had a semi-aquatic past:
google “gondwanatalks Verhaegen Bonne”
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:45 UTC

Pandora wrote:

> Apparently he has a B.A. in archeology from the Universty of Sheffield
> (2007 - 2010), but has been a IRA & Data Processing Specialist from
> 2016 onwards.

So he beats your certificate in small engine repair, easily.

Here: https://youtu.be/u6kc7rEQXpI?t=126

You're not bright, you lack understanding so let me point out something:

You never dispute much less refute a single word he says. I've queued it
up to his words on crocodiles so, you go ahead and talk about that.

Many times the savanna idiots have carried on as if the existence of
crocs prohibits Aquatic Ape. But they were likely a far bigger threat
away from the sea shore... they would have been a bigger threat
where you imagine our evolution took place.

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