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Someone tell the good Doctor:

https://cosmosmagazine.com/history/palaeontology/ape-fossil-turkey-human-evolution/

It's impossible to say anything with so little to go
on but, is more ammunition for the Eurasian Ape
side.

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Sat, 2 Sep 2023 21:08 UTC

Op zondag 27 augustus 2023 om 07:20:13 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
> Someone tell the good Doctor:
> https://cosmosmagazine.com/history/palaeontology/ape-fossil-turkey-human-evolution/
> It's impossible to say anything with so little to go
> on but, is more ammunition for the Eurasian Ape
> side.

:-) Thanks! I sent a comment there.

In short, my hypothesis on ape+human evolution:
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
- Arabafrica approaching Eurasia (c 25 Ma?) first created island archipels + coastal forests,
- these were colonised by Catarrhini living already in African coastal forests -> Hominoidea:
- early "apes": tail loss, larger body, very wide sternum-thorax-pelvis, long arms, central spine...=aquarboreal
- early "lesser"apes c 20 Ma followed S.Asian coastal forests ->SE.Asia, now gibbons etc.
- Mesopotamian Seaway Closure c 15 Ma split sivapiths-pongids E (Ind.Ocean) & dryopiths-hominids W (Med):
- BP footprints on Crete, but late-Miocene hominids s.s.(HPG) survived in the incipient Red Sea:
- Gorilla 8-7 Ma followed the incipient N-Rift -> afarensis c 3 Ma ->boisei c 2 Ma etc.
- the Red Sea opened into the Gulf 6-5 Ma: Pan->right->E.Afr.->S-Rift: africanus c 3 Ma ->robustus c 2 Ma //Gorilla,
- Homo->left-> Ind.Ocean coasts -> ISEA (island SE.Asia) c 2 Ma ->erectus shallow-diving for shellfish:
8 *independent* facts indicate: Indonesian Pleistocene archaic Homo were semi-aquatic:
• erectus' atypical tooth-wear = caused by "sand & oral processing of marine mollusks", Towle cs 2022 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10..1002/ajpa.24500
• erectus s.s. fossilized (always?) in coastal sediments: Mojokerto barnacles+corals, Trinil: Pseudodon+Elongaria, Sangiran-17 "brackish marsh near the coast"
• Stephen Munro discovered sea-shell engravings made by H.erectus, Joordens cs 2015 Nature 518:228-231 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25470048/
• ear exostoses (H.erectus & H.neand.) develop after years of cold(er) water irrigation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5696936/
• pachyosteosclerosis = slow+shallow-diving tetrapods (de Buffrénil cs 2010 J.Mamm.Evol.17:101-120), e.g. erectus’ parietal bone is 2x as thick as in gorillas,
• brain size in erectus (2x apes & australopiths) is facilitated by sea-food, e.g. DHA docosahexaenoic acid in shellfish..., cf Odontocetes, Pinnipedia...
• erectus' late-Pleistocene descendants/relatives colonized islands far oversea: fossils on Flores 100–50 ka, even Luzon 67 ka,
• Pleist.Homo’s stone tool use & dexterity is typical for molluscivores cf sea-otters.
IOW, there's 0 doubt:
only *incredible* imbeciles still believe their Pleist.ancestors ran after African antelopes:
fat, naked, sweating water+salt, poor olfaction, flat feet, fleshy nose... running after swift kudus... :-DDD

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