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* And this month’s award goesAntonio Marques
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 by: Antonio Marques - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:13 UTC

Here’s to Daud Deden, of all people. for keeping sci.lang alive!

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 by: Daud Deden - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:40 UTC

On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:14:00 PM UTC-5, Antonio Marques wrote:
> Here’s to Daud Deden, of all people. for keeping sci.lang alive!

Obrigado!
(Which I speculate is linked to obligate, where in old westerns, "thanks" is rendered as 'much obliged'.)

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 by: Antonio Marques - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:11 UTC

Daud Deden <daud.deden@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:14:00 PM UTC-5, Antonio Marques wrote:
>> Here’s to Daud Deden, of all people. for keeping sci.lang alive!
>
> Obrigado!
> (Which I speculate is linked to obligate, where in old westerns, "thanks"
> is rendered as 'much obliged'.)
>

Yep. right on. In fact, the same word exists as the past participle of
_obrigar_, general meaning of which is ‘to force’, and legally ‘to bind [to
an obligation]’. In fact, female persons should use ‘obrigada’, the
feminine form, but since nobody wants to feel ‘bound’ even when thankful,
the tendency is for them to use ‘obrigado’ too, like an invariant word not
psychologically related to the verb.
The ‘thank you’ word is also colloquially robbed of the o-, becoming just
_brigado/a_, an apheresis that never occurs with the verbal form. It goes
as far as _muito obrigado_ ‘much obliged’ becoming _t’obrigado_, a
phenomenon that seldom if ever affects other occurrences of _,muito_.

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 by: Ruud Harmsen - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:46 UTC

Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:40:42 -0800 (PST): Daud Deden
<daud.deden@gmail.com> scribeva:

>On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:14:00?PM UTC-5, Antonio Marques wrote:
>> Here’s to Daud Deden, of all people. for keeping sci.lang alive!
>
>Obrigado!
>(Which I speculate is linked to obligate, where in old westerns, "thanks" is rendered as 'much obliged'.)

Of course!
--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:05 UTC

On 2023-12-07 00:13:53 +0000, Antonio Marques said:

> Here’s to Daud Deden, of all people. for keeping sci.lang alive!

Yes. Now that Franz Gnaedinger is no longer with us we needed someone
to take on the task.

--
Athel cb

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 by: Ross Clark - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:56 UTC

On 7/12/2023 1:40 p.m., Daud Deden wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:14:00 PM UTC-5, Antonio Marques wrote:
>> Here’s to Daud Deden, of all people. for keeping sci.lang alive!
>
> Obrigado!
> (Which I speculate is linked to obligate, where in old westerns, "thanks" is rendered as 'much obliged'.)
>

A handful of "gimme" and a mouthful of "much obliged"...
I first heard this in a Taj Mahal song, but it's a Black catch-phrase
going back at least to the 1920s.

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