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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:21 UTC

Check out this facial reconstruction:

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/729292517422546945

Please note the nostrils.

It's a screen shot from this video:

https://youtu.be/ZxWB4aCH0kg?feature=shared

YouTube bites the bag & keeps on chewing but it
does establish that, yes, there are people who
believe the nostril thing...

-- --

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/729277753939066880

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Subject: Re: Omg! The good Doctor & nostrils:
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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:58 UTC

:-) Thanks a lot, JTEM, the good Doctor is very frustrated that hominoid & human is rather well-know (esp. comparative anatomy), but that many outdated paleo-anthropologists are still so stupid to believe the idiotic fantasy that their ancestors ran after antelopes over African savannas, with big nose, flat feet & atrophied olfaction, sweating water+salt... :-DDD
I'm suffering from a few geriatric diseases, and am afraid that I won't be able to see the general acceptance of the waterside theory: Max Westenhöfer, Alister Hardy, Elaine Morgan & many others already died without having seen their theory generally accepted...
It's really not difficult, a child can understand: humans are furless & fat than apes & very large-brained, we can hold our breath, voluntarily for >1 minute, H.erectus used stone tools + fossilized amid barnacles & corals & edible shellfish etc.etc. The details (how, when, where exactly) are more difficult, but IMO we now know many more solutions than Elaine knew, e.g. google "human evolution verhaegen" & https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

Op zondag 24 september 2023 om 00:21:22 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

> Check out this facial reconstruction:
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/729292517422546945
> Please note the nostrils.
> It's a screen shot from this video:
> https://youtu.be/ZxWB4aCH0kg?feature=shared
> YouTube bites the bag & keeps on chewing but it
> does establish that, yes, there are people who
> believe the nostril thing...

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Subject: Re: Omg! The good Doctor & nostrils:
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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:16 UTC

Op zondag 24 september 2023 om 00:21:22 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

(a few corrections)

:-) Thanks a lot, JTEM, the good Doctor is very frustrated that hominoid+human evolution is rather well-know (esp. comparative anatomy), but that many outdated paleo-anthropologists are still so stupid to believe the idiotic fantasy that their ancestors ran after antelopes over African savannas, with big nose, flat feet & atrophied olfaction, sweating water+salt... :-DDD

I'm suffering from a few geriatric diseases, and am afraid that I won't be able to see the general acceptance of the waterside theory: Max Westenhöfer, Alister Hardy, Elaine Morgan & many others already died without having seen their/our theory generally accepted...

It's really not difficult, a child can understand:
humans are furless & fatter than apes & very large-brained, we can hold our breath, voluntarily for >1 minute, H.erectus used stone tools + fossilized amid barnacles & corals & edible shellfish etc.etc.
The details (how, when, where exactly) are more difficult, but IMO we now know many more solutions than Elaine knew,
e.g. google
- "human evolution verhaegen"
- https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
- https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b07v2ysg David Attenborough "The Waterside Ape"

> Check out this facial reconstruction:
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/729292517422546945
> Please note the nostrils.
> It's a screen shot from this video:
> https://youtu.be/ZxWB4aCH0kg?feature=shared
> YouTube bites the bag & keeps on chewing but it
> does establish that, yes, there are people who
> believe the nostril thing...

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 by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 18:58 UTC

littor...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm suffering from a few geriatric diseases, and am afraid that I won't be
> able to see the general acceptance of the waterside theory: Max
> Westenhöfer, Alister Hardy, Elaine Morgan & many others already died
> without having seen their/our theory generally accepted...

Ah, never write yourself off.

My time was up 11 years ago, back in 2012. I was in the Intensive Care
Unit at the hospital, doing something they call "The Death Rattle." They
had me on morphine, of course..My entire hospital stay lasted six days,
so I guess things turned around quickly enough.

The Out of Africa purists are either incompetent or practicing politics.
Eventually the intelligent ones are going to retire. They'll have no
reason to cling to the party line. And they will start speaking the truth
and pointing fingers.

> It's really not difficult, a child can understand:

Yes. Now if only paleo anthropology was run by children...

The world is going to remember the likes of you. Nobody is ever
going to be celebrated for getting it so consistently wrong...

"The Out of Africa purist was so dogmatic in his adherence to the
status quo! Let's name university departments after him!"

Nope. Not going to happen. If anything, the future will seek to
erase knowledge of their mistakes, out of embarrassment.

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/729273087843008512

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:01 UTC

Op donderdag 28 september 2023 om 20:58:16 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
> littor...@gmail.com wrote:

> > I'm suffering from a few geriatric diseases, and am afraid that I won't be
> > able to see the general acceptance of the waterside theory: Max
> > Westenhöfer, Alister Hardy, Elaine Morgan & many others already died
> > without having seen their/our theory generally accepted...

> Ah, never write yourself off.
> My time was up 11 years ago, back in 2012. I was in the Intensive Care
> Unit at the hospital, doing something they call "The Death Rattle." They
> had me on morphine, of course..My entire hospital stay lasted six days,
> so I guess things turned around quickly enough.
> The Out of Africa purists are either incompetent or practicing politics.
> Eventually the intelligent ones are going to retire. They'll have no
> reason to cling to the party line. And they will start speaking the truth
> and pointing fingers.
> > It's really not difficult, a child can understand:
> Yes. Now if only paleo anthropology was run by children...
> The world is going to remember the likes of you. Nobody is ever
> going to be celebrated for getting it so consistently wrong...
> "The Out of Africa purist was so dogmatic in his adherence to the
> status quo! Let's name university departments after him!"
> Nope. Not going to happen. If anything, the future will seek to
> erase knowledge of their mistakes, out of embarrassment.

Yes, it's difficult to understand that in these modern times there are still so many idiots who accept without thinking a little bit that their ancestors ran over savannas hunting antelopes!!
Luckily there ar still scientific PAs: prof.Tobias: "We were all profoundly and unutterably wrong!" (google "Tobias aquatic ape" or so): only incredible imbeciles still believe their ancestors ran after kudus... :-DDD

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