1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.

Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?
Is it idiomatic?

I think here 'it' means ' the process of your buying shares in these companies'.

Is that correct?

Gratefully,
Navi

On Sat, 13 May 2023 14:31:34 -0700 (PDT), arthurvv vart
<arthurvarr@gmail.com> wrote:

>1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.
>
>Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?

Yes, but absent context it has little discernable meaning.

>Is it idiomatic?

Not by itself. There are situations where the purchase of shares by
an individual is restricted for some reason. An "insider" would not
be allowed to purchase shares in a company when the company is about
to announce some changes unless the changes are not likely to affect
the share value.

When you use sentences and ask if they are "idiomatic", you are asking
if they would be used in normal and ordinary conversation. The
expected context in this case, though, would be a situation outside of
normal and ordinary conversation for the average person.

The loophole is that idiomatic can be normal and ordinary within a
particular group, and there can be a particular group where the
statement is idiomatic.

>
>I think here 'it' means ' the process of your buying shares in these companies'.
>
>Is that correct?

Yes if "process" includes all of the requirements being met by the
buyer of the shares and that "we" stands for some authority that
determines or enforces the requirements.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On Sat, 13 May 2023 14:31:34 -0700 (PDT), arthurvv vart
<arthurvarr@gmail.com> wrote:

>1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.
>
>Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?

Yes.

>Is it idiomatic?

Yes.

>I think here 'it' means ' the process of your buying shares in these companies'.
>
>Is that correct?

Yes.

Le 13/05/2023 à 22:31, arthurvv vart a écrit :
>
> 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.
>
> Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?
> Is it idiomatic?

Yes, yes, and yes.

> I think here 'it' means ' the process of your buying shares in these companies'.
>
> Is that correct?

Yes.

The 'of' in the title is not idiomatic, however, and is better omitted.

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.
>
> Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?
> Is it idiomatic?

Yes to all, though I I think Americans would be more like to say "stock" than
"shares". It's not "careful writer" writing, though, since there's no noun
phrase that "it" refers to.
(There are other changes a careful writer might make, such as ascribing the
obligation to "you" instead of "we".)

> I think here 'it' means ' the process of your buying shares in these companies'.
>
> Is that correct?

Yes, or just "your purchase of shares in these companies".

--
Jerry Friedman

On 2023-05-15 13:25:34 +0000, Jerry Friedman said:

> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>> 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee
>> it.>> Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?> Is it idiomatic?
> Yes to all, though I I think Americans would be more like to say "stock" than
> "shares".

Coincidentally, my wife just asked me yesterday how to express Spanish
"acciones", French "actions", in English. I could have said "stock",
but I said "shares".

She was going through a lot of stuff for throwing away and came across
three share certificates of her mother, bought by her grandfather in
1950, two for the Estadio Español in Santiago and one for the company
now called Soprole. I was surprised that one could even buy such a
small number of shares, and that was also the view of the companies
when my mother-in-law tried to do something with them. At the exchange
rate that applied in 1950 they were (then) worth about 18 USD each.

> It's not "careful writer" writing, though, since there's no noun
> phrase that "it" refers to.
> (There are other changes a careful writer might make, such as ascribing the
> obligation to "you" instead of "we".)
>
>> I think here 'it' means ' the process of your buying shares in these
>> companies'.>
>> Is that correct?
> Yes, or just "your purchase of shares in these companies".

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:51:58 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-05-15 13:25:34 +0000, Jerry Friedman said:
>
> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> >> 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee
> >> it.>> Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?> Is it idiomatic?
> > Yes to all, though I I think Americans would be more like to say "stock" than
> > "shares".
> Coincidentally, my wife just asked me yesterday how to express Spanish
> "acciones", French "actions", in English. I could have said "stock",
> but I said "shares".
>
> She was going through a lot of stuff for throwing away and came across
> three share certificates of her mother, bought by her grandfather in
> 1950, two for the Estadio Español in Santiago and one for the company
> now called Soprole. I was surprised that one could even buy such a
> small number of shares, and that was also the view of the companies
> when my mother-in-law tried to do something with them. At the exchange
> rate that applied in 1950 they were (then) worth about 18 USD each.
> > It's not "careful writer" writing, though, since there's no noun
> > phrase that "it" refers to.
>
Once upon a time I owned a single share of General Electric stock. It was a
fragment left over after some elaborate transactions when I left GE.

Then when GE boomed they split stock so many times I had 48 shares. Now
GE has been humbled and is reverse splitting. I am unsure how many shares
I now have. My real investments are elsewhere and I just keep the GE shares
for sentimental reasons.

On Mon, 15 May 2023 12:47:37 -0700 (PDT), David Kleinecke
<dkleinecke@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:51:58?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-05-15 13:25:34 +0000, Jerry Friedman said:
>>
>> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:31:36?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>> >> 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee
>> >> it.>> Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?> Is it idiomatic?
>> > Yes to all, though I I think Americans would be more like to say "stock" than
>> > "shares".
>> Coincidentally, my wife just asked me yesterday how to express Spanish
>> "acciones", French "actions", in English. I could have said "stock",
>> but I said "shares".
>>
>> She was going through a lot of stuff for throwing away and came across
>> three share certificates of her mother, bought by her grandfather in
>> 1950, two for the Estadio Español in Santiago and one for the company
>> now called Soprole. I was surprised that one could even buy such a
>> small number of shares, and that was also the view of the companies
>> when my mother-in-law tried to do something with them. At the exchange
>> rate that applied in 1950 they were (then) worth about 18 USD each.
>> > It's not "careful writer" writing, though, since there's no noun
>> > phrase that "it" refers to.
>>
>Once upon a time I owned a single share of General Electric stock. It was a
>fragment left over after some elaborate transactions when I left GE.
>
>Then when GE boomed they split stock so many times I had 48 shares. Now
>GE has been humbled and is reverse splitting. I am unsure how many shares
>I now have. My real investments are elsewhere and I just keep the GE shares
>for sentimental reasons.

Americans can buy one share, or even part of one share, of any stock
if they buy through a brokerage that sells "fractional shares". With
the brokerage I use, I buy or sell a dollar amount of shares.

The only thing difficult about buying one share using a brokerage that
sells fractional shares is that the instructions to buy are "at
market" and by the time the transaction is completed the share price
usually varies a bit. I'd end up with one and a fraction shares or
slightly less than a full share.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

David Kleinecke:
>> Once upon a time I owned a single share of General Electric stock. It was
>> a fragment left over after some elaborate transactions when I left GE...

Tony Cooper:
> Americans can buy one share, or even part of one share, of any stock
> if they buy through a brokerage that sells "fractional shares". With
> the brokerage I use, I buy or sell a dollar amount of shares.

Interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for mutual funds.

Old-timers may remember that I was once msb@sq.com. Well, when I was
working for SoftQuad, there was a time when I had stock options.
I sold the stock almost as soon as I was allowed to (and a good thing
too -- it *never* recovered to that day's price), but at the time
I kept one share as a symbolic gesture. When they laid me off in
1997, I sold that single share at $1.20. The Ontario Securities
Commission was then charging a flat-rate 50¢ fee on all transactions,
but the broker's commission was apparently limited to 10% of the price:
they charged 12¢ and so my net proceeds on the trade were 58¢.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Do right; have fun; make money."
msb@vex.net --Ian Darwin on Yuri Rubinsky (1952-96)

My text in this article is in the public domain.

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 5:31:36 PM UTC-4, arthurvv vart wrote:
> 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.
>
> Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?

Your question is not written grammatically correct. The 'to be' verb 'are' should be used instead of 'is', because your subjects 'sentences' are plural.

On 2023-05-15 23:34, Mark Brader wrote:
> David Kleinecke:
>>> Once upon a time I owned a single share of General Electric stock. It was
>>> a fragment left over after some elaborate transactions when I left GE...
>
> Tony Cooper:
>> Americans can buy one share, or even part of one share, of any stock
>> if they buy through a brokerage that sells "fractional shares". With
>> the brokerage I use, I buy or sell a dollar amount of shares.
>
> Interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for mutual funds.
>
> Old-timers may remember that I was once msb@sq.com. Well, when I was
> working for SoftQuad, there was a time when I had stock options.
> I sold the stock almost as soon as I was allowed to (and a good thing
> too -- it *never* recovered to that day's price), but at the time
> I kept one share as a symbolic gesture. When they laid me off in
> 1997, I sold that single share at $1.20. The Ontario Securities
> Commission was then charging a flat-rate 50¢ fee on all transactions,
> but the broker's commission was apparently limited to 10% of the price:
> they charged 12¢ and so my net proceeds on the trade were 58¢.

IBM, in the late 60s/early 70s (and perhaps other times, but that's when
I worked for them), had a great stock option plan.

We could designate a percentage of our salary for purchasing a share
(when I started with them in 1966, shares were about $600 CAD).

The price at the time you signed up was the base price, which was the
maximum you would pay for a share. If the stock rose in value, you still
got it for the base price. If it decreased in value, you got it for the
market price on the day that your account contained that amount.

During that period, the stock split several times, much to the delight
of those purchasing it.

--
I bought a house on a one-way dead-end street.
I don't know how I got there.

On Tue, 16 May 2023 13:51:19 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-05-15 23:34, Mark Brader wrote:
>> David Kleinecke:
>>>> Once upon a time I owned a single share of General Electric stock. It was
>>>> a fragment left over after some elaborate transactions when I left GE...
>>
>> Tony Cooper:
>>> Americans can buy one share, or even part of one share, of any stock
>>> if they buy through a brokerage that sells "fractional shares". With
>>> the brokerage I use, I buy or sell a dollar amount of shares.
>>
>> Interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for mutual funds.
>>
>> Old-timers may remember that I was once msb@sq.com. Well, when I was
>> working for SoftQuad, there was a time when I had stock options.
>> I sold the stock almost as soon as I was allowed to (and a good thing
>> too -- it *never* recovered to that day's price), but at the time
>> I kept one share as a symbolic gesture. When they laid me off in
>> 1997, I sold that single share at $1.20. The Ontario Securities
>> Commission was then charging a flat-rate 50¢ fee on all transactions,
>> but the broker's commission was apparently limited to 10% of the price:
>> they charged 12¢ and so my net proceeds on the trade were 58¢.
>
>IBM, in the late 60s/early 70s (and perhaps other times, but that's when
>I worked for them), had a great stock option plan.
>
>We could designate a percentage of our salary for purchasing a share
>(when I started with them in 1966, shares were about $600 CAD).
>
>The price at the time you signed up was the base price, which was the
>maximum you would pay for a share. If the stock rose in value, you still
>got it for the base price. If it decreased in value, you got it for the
>market price on the day that your account contained that amount.
>
>During that period, the stock split several times, much to the delight
>of those purchasing it.

Another way one can hold fractional shares is when the stock pays
dividend and the dividends are re-invested. That results in the
shareholder having a number of full shares plus a fractional value of
a single share.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

Tony Cooper:
> Another way one can hold fractional shares is when the stock pays
> dividend and the dividends are re-invested. That results in the
> shareholder having a number of full shares plus a fractional value of
> a single share.

Again, interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for mutual funds.

If I have dividend reinvestment plan on a stock (DRP -- pronounced
"drip", one of the cleverer acronyms out there), and there is a
dividend payment of $392.79 when the price per share is $132.35,
then I receive 2 additional shares and $128.09 in "cash" (i.e. in
my investment account).
--
Mark Brader "You can stop laughing now.
Toronto Well, maybe you *can't*, but you *may*."
msb@vex.net -- Rick Burger

My text in this article is in the public domain.

On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:32:31 +0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>Tony Cooper:
>> Another way one can hold fractional shares is when the stock pays
>> dividend and the dividends are re-invested. That results in the
>> shareholder having a number of full shares plus a fractional value of
>> a single share.
>
>Again, interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for mutual funds.
>
>If I have dividend reinvestment plan on a stock (DRP -- pronounced
>"drip", one of the cleverer acronyms out there), and there is a
>dividend payment of $392.79 when the price per share is $132.35,
>then I receive 2 additional shares and $128.09 in "cash" (i.e. in
>my investment account).

I use Fidelity, and they allow the purchase of fractional shares of
stocks, ETFs, and mutual funds:

https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/trading-investing/fractional-shares

Other brokerage firms, like Charles Schwab, do the same.

Some US brokerages offer a plan where one invests a fixed amount each
month that is automatically deducted from the investor's bank. I
don't do that, so I don't know the particulars, but I've seen it
advertised. That would result in whole shares plus fractionals.

I do have some stocks that pay dividends, and those dividends are sent
to me by check, but they were purchased some time ago when
re-investing the dividend was not an option.

I assume there's some difference between US and Canadian rules that
make the practice unknown to you.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

Mark Brader:
>> Again, interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for
>> mutual funds.

Tony Cooper:
> I use Fidelity, and they allow the purchase of fractional shares of
> stocks, ETFs, and mutual funds:
>
> https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/trading-investing/fractional-shares
...
> I assume there's some difference between US and Canadian rules that
> make the practice unknown to you.

Or maybe it's just because it's a new feature, as they say in the
second paragraph, and no one's called it to my attention here.
I don't think I'm going to ask, though.
--
Mark Brader | The last 10% of the performance sought contributes
Toronto | one-third of the cost and two-thirds of the problems.
msb@vex.net | -- Norm Augustine

My text in this article is in the public domain.

On Tue, 16 May 2023 23:09:25 +0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>Mark Brader:
>>> Again, interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for
>>> mutual funds.
>
>Tony Cooper:
>> I use Fidelity, and they allow the purchase of fractional shares of
>> stocks, ETFs, and mutual funds:
>>
>> https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/trading-investing/fractional-shares
> ...
>> I assume there's some difference between US and Canadian rules that
>> make the practice unknown to you.
>
>Or maybe it's just because it's a new feature, as they say in the
>second paragraph, and no one's called it to my attention here.
>I don't think I'm going to ask, though.

FSVofN. Some brokerages offered it as early as 1999, but the major
houses didn't start offering fractional share purchases until about
2020.

https://www.investopedia.com/comparing-fractional-trading-offerings-at-online-brokers-4847173#:~:text=Fractional%20share%20buying%20is%20a,over%206%2C000%20exchange%2Dlisted%20securities.\

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 3:55:11 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 5:31:36 PM UTC-4, arthurvv vart wrote:
> > 1) If you want to buy shares in these companies we will have to oversee it.
> >
> > Is the sentences grammatical and meaningful?
> Your question is not written grammatically correct. The 'to be' verb 'are' should be used instead of 'is', because your subjects 'sentences' are plural.

Thank you all very much,

Sorry about the typo. The 's' at the end of 'sentences' should not
be there. There is only one sentence.

Respectfully,
Navi

TonyCooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, 16 May 2023 13:51:19 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>On 2023-05-15 23:34, Mark Brader wrote:
>>> David Kleinecke:
>>>>> Once upon a time I owned a single share of General Electric stock. It was
>>>>> a fragment left over after some elaborate transactions when I left GE...
>>>
>>> Tony Cooper:
>>>> Americans can buy one share, or even part of one share, of any stock
>>>> if they buy through a brokerage that sells "fractional shares". With
>>>> the brokerage I use, I buy or sell a dollar amount of shares.
>>>
>>> Interesting; I had not heard of that for stocks, only for mutual funds.
>>>
>>> Old-timers may remember that I was once msb@sq.com. Well, when I was
>>> working for SoftQuad, there was a time when I had stock options.
>>> I sold the stock almost as soon as I was allowed to (and a good thing
>>> too -- it *never* recovered to that day's price), but at the time
>>> I kept one share as a symbolic gesture. When they laid me off in
>>> 1997, I sold that single share at $1.20. The Ontario Securities
>>> Commission was then charging a flat-rate 50¢ fee on all transactions,
>>> but the broker's commission was apparently limited to 10% of the price:
>>> they charged 12¢ and so my net proceeds on the trade were 58¢.
>>
>>IBM, in the late 60s/early 70s (and perhaps other times, but that's when
>>I worked for them), had a great stock option plan.
>>
>>We could designate a percentage of our salary for purchasing a share
>>(when I started with them in 1966, shares were about $600 CAD).
>>
>>The price at the time you signed up was the base price, which was the
>>maximum you would pay for a share. If the stock rose in value, you still
>>got it for the base price. If it decreased in value, you got it for the
>>market price on the day that your account contained that amount.
>>
>>During that period, the stock split several times, much to the delight
>>of those purchasing it.
>
> Another way one can hold fractional shares is when the stock pays
> dividend and the dividends are re-invested. That results in the
> shareholder having a number of full shares plus a fractional value of
> a single share.

There are many solutions to this problem. Berkshire Hathaway class A
shares (valued in the hundreds of thousands of dollars last time I
looked) are 1:1500 convertable into class B shares, with the prices
locked at exactly that multiple. The price for the granularity is
that your voting rights are only 1/10000 with the class B.

Phil
--
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