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* Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)Ross Clark
+- Re: Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)Jeff Barnett
+- Re: Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)Aidan Kehoe
`- Re: Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)Athel Cornish-Bowden

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From: benli...@ihug.co.nz (Ross Clark)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:02:15 +1300
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 by: Ross Clark - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 03:02 UTC

A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA.
More or less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.

Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue),
which is what Crystal devotes the page to.

Created a "primitive" language for a children's television series called
"Land of the Lost" (1974-5). Also a vampire language for the movie
"Blade" (1998).

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From: jbb...@notatt.com (Jeff Barnett)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)
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 by: Jeff Barnett - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:31 UTC

On 1/18/2024 8:02 PM, Ross Clark wrote:
> A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA.
> More or less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
> I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.
>
> Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue),
> which is what Crystal devotes the page to.
>
> Created a "primitive" language for a children's television series called
> "Land of the Lost" (1974-5). Also a vampire language for the movie
> "Blade" (1998).

I had the pleasure of working with Ladefoged in the 1970s; he consulted
with us on the DARPA-sponsored Speech Understanding Project. He was a
pleasure to work with as were the many of his henchmen that I met. I
never met Fromkin though. From what little you say above I think that is
my loss. Your description brings to mind a similar vein of research by
Frederic Bartlett who studied memory around the turn of the 20th century
and influenced Piaget's theories of child development.
--
Jeff Barnett

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 by: Aidan Kehoe - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:20 UTC

Ar an naoú lá déag de mí Eanair, scríobh Ross Clark:

> A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA. More or
> less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
> I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.
>
> Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue), which
> is what Crystal devotes the page to.

Something very worth studying. The more life experience I get the clearer that
Chomsky was wrong in his lack of interest in second language acquisition (on
the idea that it was studying something imperfect); you get most insight into
any complex system from studying the ways that it breaks, whether that be rare
bugs in computer programs or rare recessive diseases in people (e.g. familial
hypercholesterolaemia giving insight into heart disease, stroke in the general
population.)

--
‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
(C. Moore)

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From: me...@yahoo.com (Athel Cornish-Bowden)
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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:33 UTC

On 2024-01-19 03:02:15 +0000, Ross Clark said:

> A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA.
> More or less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
> I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.
>
> Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue),
> which is what Crystal devotes the page to.
>
> Created a "primitive" language for a children's television series
> called "Land of the Lost" (1974-5). Also a vampire language for the
> movie "Blade" (1998).

Many thanks, Ross, for reviving your hatched-matched-dispatched posts
(maybe not often matched, but certainly hatched and dispatched). Let's
us hope it helps to keep sci.lang alive.

--
Athel cb

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