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* ape+human evolution, very shortMarc Verhaegen
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Subject: ape+human evolution, very short
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 by: Marc Verhaegen - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 10:41 UTC

Ape+human evolution, very short:
-- early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes" 25 Ma) were already "bipedal":
aquarboreal (aqua=water, arbor=tree): vertical wading+climbing in coastal forests,
-- late-Miocene hominids (HPG ancestors): aquarboreal in incipient Red Sea forests:
-> Gorilla 8 Ma via incipient N-Rift -> Afar: afarensis, aethiopicus, boisei etc.
-> Pan 5 Ma via S-Rift (//Gorilla) -> Transvaal: africanus, robustus, habilis etc.
-> Homo Pliocene (no Afr.retroviral DNA!) -> S.Asian coasts ->
H.erectus was shellfish-diving at least early-Pleist. 2 Ma:
-brain >800 cc <- seafood DHA, taurine... dolphin, seal, sea-otter
-heavy bones (pachy-osteo-sclerosis): only & always: shallow-diving spp
-fossilisations amid edible shellfish: Mojokerto, Trinil, Sangiran...
-flat long low skull (platycephaly) = hydrodynamic
-ear exostoses = chronic water irrigations
-tooth-wear caused by shellfish, Towle cs 2022
-shell engravings, Joordens & Munro
-colonisations Flores, Luzon...
-external nose & mid-facial pro-gnathism: diving-cycle
-stone tools cf. sea-otter opening shellfish
-etc.
Pleist.dispersal of archaic Homo along coasts->rivers, waterside:
only incredibly stupid people believe H.erectus ran after antelopes... :-DDD
The term "hunter-gatherer" is almost as ridiculous:
Pleist.Homo butchered (stone tools!) waterside carcasses they found,
but hunting is only very recent: dogs, weapons, poison...

Very very short:
- 25 Ma: aquarboreal=bipedal apes-apiths
- 2.5 Ma: shellfish-diving H.erectus s.s.
Google
- aquarboreal
- GondwanaTalks Verhaegen

All publications with terms like "Out of Africa" Homo comes from S.Asia), "hominin" (apiths were Gorilla or Pan, not Homo), "hunter-gatherer" (gatherer is OK) are prejudiced!

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 by: Mario Petrinovic - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:37 UTC

On 7.11.2023. 11:41, Marc Verhaegen wrote:
> Ape+human evolution, very short:
> -- early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes" 25 Ma) were already "bipedal":
> aquarboreal (aqua=water, arbor=tree): vertical wading+climbing in coastal forests,
> -- late-Miocene hominids (HPG ancestors): aquarboreal in incipient Red Sea forests:
> -> Gorilla 8 Ma via incipient N-Rift -> Afar: afarensis, aethiopicus, boisei etc.
> -> Pan 5 Ma via S-Rift (//Gorilla) -> Transvaal: africanus, robustus, habilis etc.
> -> Homo Pliocene (no Afr.retroviral DNA!) -> S.Asian coasts ->
> H.erectus was shellfish-diving at least early-Pleist. 2 Ma:
> -brain >800 cc <- seafood DHA, taurine... dolphin, seal, sea-otter
> -heavy bones (pachy-osteo-sclerosis): only & always: shallow-diving spp
> -fossilisations amid edible shellfish: Mojokerto, Trinil, Sangiran...
> -flat long low skull (platycephaly) = hydrodynamic
> -ear exostoses = chronic water irrigations
> -tooth-wear caused by shellfish, Towle cs 2022
> -shell engravings, Joordens & Munro
> -colonisations Flores, Luzon...
> -external nose & mid-facial pro-gnathism: diving-cycle
> -stone tools cf. sea-otter opening shellfish
> -etc.
> Pleist.dispersal of archaic Homo along coasts->rivers, waterside:
> only incredibly stupid people believe H.erectus ran after antelopes... :-DDD
> The term "hunter-gatherer" is almost as ridiculous:
> Pleist.Homo butchered (stone tools!) waterside carcasses they found,
> but hunting is only very recent: dogs, weapons, poison...
>
> Very very short:
> - 25 Ma: aquarboreal=bipedal apes-apiths
> - 2.5 Ma: shellfish-diving H.erectus s.s.
> Google
> - aquarboreal
> - GondwanaTalks Verhaegen
>
> All publications with terms like "Out of Africa" Homo comes from S.Asia), "hominin" (apiths were Gorilla or Pan, not Homo), "hunter-gatherer" (gatherer is OK) are prejudiced!

https://youtu.be/b56eAUCTLok?si=-ODHKBsLyrCoZ2ox

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From: m_verhae...@skynet.be (Marc Verhaegen)
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 by: Marc Verhaegen - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 08:42 UTC

Op woensdag 8 november 2023 om 00:37:29 UTC+1 schreef Mario Petrinovic:
> On 7.11.2023. 11:41, Marc Verhaegen wrote:
> > Ape+human evolution, very short:
> > (1) Early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes" 25 Ma) were already "bipedal":
> > aquarboreal (aqua=water, arbor=tree): vertical wading+climbing in coastal forests,
> > (2) Late-Miocene hominids (HPG ancestors): aquarboreal in incipient Red Sea forests:
> > -> Gorilla 8 Ma via incipient N-Rift -> Afar: afarensis, aethiopicus, boisei etc.
> > -> Pan 5 Ma via S-Rift (//Gorilla) -> Transvaal: africanus, robustus, habilis etc.
> > -> Homo Pliocene (no Afr.retroviral DNA!) -> S.Asian coasts ->
> > (3) Early-Pleist. H.erectus was shellfish-diving at least 2 Ma:
> > -brain >800 cc <- seafood DHA, taurine... dolphin, seal, sea-otter
> > -heavy bones (pachy-osteo-sclerosis): only & always: shallow-diving spp
> > -fossilisations amid edible shellfish: Mojokerto, Trinil, Sangiran...
> > -flat long low skull (platycephaly) = hydrodynamic
> > -ear exostoses = chronic water irrigations
> > -tooth-wear caused by shellfish, Towle cs 2022
> > -shell engravings, Joordens & Munro
> > -colonisations Flores, Luzon...
> > -external nose & mid-facial pro-gnathism: diving-cycle
> > -stone tools cf. sea-otter opening shellfish, etc.
> > (4) Pleist.dispersal of archaic Homo along coasts->rivers, waterside:
> > only incredibly stupid people believe H.erectus ran after antelopes... :-DDD
> > The term "hunter-gatherer" is almost as ridiculous:
> > Pleist.Homo butchered (stone tools!) waterside carcasses they found,
> > but hunting is only very recent: dogs, weapons, poison...

> > Very very short:
> > - 25 Ma: aquarboreal=bipedal apes-apiths
> > - 2.5 Ma: shellfish-diving H.erectus s.s.
> > Google
> > - aquarboreal
> > - GondwanaTalks Verhaegen
> > All publications with terms like "Out of Africa" Homo comes from S.Asia), "hominin" (apiths were Gorilla or Pan, not Homo), "hunter-gatherer" (gatherer is OK) are prejudiced!

Thanks for agreeing, Mario:

> https://youtu.be/b56eAUCTLok?si=-ODHKBsLyrCoZ2ox

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