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* Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar CleanupGeoff Rove
`* Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar CleanupJim Pennino
 `* Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar CleanupDaniel
  `- Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar CleanupGeoff Rove

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Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar Cleanup

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Subject: Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar Cleanup
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 by: Geoff Rove - Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:17 UTC

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:16:05 AM UTC-5, Jim Pennino wrote:
> Geoff Rove <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "
> <snip>
> >
> > The $1.5 million in cash will cover $911,000 for the crash clean-up, $340,000 to upgrade buildings at Montgomery Field in Kearny Mesa for a possible tenant, and $270,000 to analyze proposed upgrades at Brown Field in Otay Mesa. The $340,000 will cover heating and ventilation upgrades to buildings at Montgomery Field that the city acquired when they were abandoned by a former tenant.
> >
> I understand the idea of recovering damages from those that caused the
> damage, however $911,000 seems like a bloated number to me and I fail to
> see why the pilot/owner/insurance company would be responsible for
> paying for upgrades of any kind.
>
> <snip>

I assume the City of San Diego has invoices for the $911,000 they say the cleanup cost. The other costs aren't being charged to the "pilots" insurance.. Not surprised that an airport tenant would abandon a building.

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Subject: Re: Only a ONE Million Dollar Cleanup
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 by: Jim Pennino - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 15:24 UTC

Geoff Rove <jgrove24@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:16:05 AM UTC-5, Jim Pennino wrote:
>> Geoff Rove <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > "
>> <snip>
>> >
>> > The $1.5 million in cash will cover $911,000 for the crash clean-up, $340,000 to upgrade buildings at Montgomery Field in Kearny Mesa for a possible tenant, and $270,000 to analyze proposed upgrades at Brown Field in Otay Mesa. The $340,000 will cover heating and ventilation upgrades to buildings at Montgomery Field that the city acquired when they were abandoned by a former tenant.
>> >
>> I understand the idea of recovering damages from those that caused the
>> damage, however $911,000 seems like a bloated number to me and I fail to
>> see why the pilot/owner/insurance company would be responsible for
>> paying for upgrades of any kind.
>>
>> <snip>
>
> I assume the City of San Diego has invoices for the $911,000 they say the cleanup cost. The other costs aren't being charged to the "pilots" insurance. Not surprised that an airport tenant would abandon a building.

You mean like the invoices hospitals give for $50 aspirin tablets?

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 by: Daniel - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:58 UTC

Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> writes:

> Geoff Rove <jgrove24@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:16:05 AM UTC-5, Jim Pennino wrote:
>>> Geoff Rove <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > "
>>> <snip>
>>> >
>>> > The $1.5 million in cash will cover $911,000 for the crash
>>> > clean-up, $340,000 to upgrade buildings at Montgomery Field in
>>> > Kearny Mesa for a possible tenant, and $270,000 to analyze
>>> > proposed upgrades at Brown Field in Otay Mesa. The $340,000 will
>>> > cover heating and ventilation upgrades to buildings at Montgomery
>>> > Field that the city acquired when they were abandoned by a former
>>> > tenant.
>>> >
>>> I understand the idea of recovering damages from those that caused the
>>> damage, however $911,000 seems like a bloated number to me and I fail to
>>> see why the pilot/owner/insurance company would be responsible for
>>> paying for upgrades of any kind.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>> I assume the City of San Diego has invoices for the $911,000 they
>> say the cleanup cost. The other costs aren't being charged to the
>> "pilots" insurance. Not surprised that an airport tenant would
>> abandon a building.
>
> You mean like the invoices hospitals give for $50 aspirin tablets?

Lol, the fact that they're going to attempt collecting a million dollars
from a pilot is mindboggling. Did they even get a report from the NTSB
on the cause?

Daniel
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 by: Geoff Rove - Wed, 12 May 2021 23:53 UTC

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 7:58:42 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> Jim Pennino <ji...@gonzo.specsol.net> writes:
>
> > Geoff Rove <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:16:05 AM UTC-5, Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>> Geoff Rove <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > "
> >>> <snip>
> >>> >
> >>> > The $1.5 million in cash will cover $911,000 for the crash
> >>> > clean-up, $340,000 to upgrade buildings at Montgomery Field in
> >>> > Kearny Mesa for a possible tenant, and $270,000 to analyze
> >>> > proposed upgrades at Brown Field in Otay Mesa. The $340,000 will
> >>> > cover heating and ventilation upgrades to buildings at Montgomery
> >>> > Field that the city acquired when they were abandoned by a former
> >>> > tenant.
> >>> >
> >>> I understand the idea of recovering damages from those that caused the
> >>> damage, however $911,000 seems like a bloated number to me and I fail to
> >>> see why the pilot/owner/insurance company would be responsible for
> >>> paying for upgrades of any kind.
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>
> >> I assume the City of San Diego has invoices for the $911,000 they
> >> say the cleanup cost. The other costs aren't being charged to the
> >> "pilots" insurance. Not surprised that an airport tenant would
> >> abandon a building.
> >
> > You mean like the invoices hospitals give for $50 aspirin tablets?
> Lol, the fact that they're going to attempt collecting a million dollars
> from a pilot is mindboggling. Did they even get a report from the NTSB
> on the cause?

I'm guessing the jet hitting a dirt berm at the end of the runway upon pilots aborting is the cause. Removing dirt soaked by 3400 gallons of fuel isn't cheap. MCAS El Toro had huge underground clean up costs
after it closed.

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