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* Experimental pilot and his new fiancee among 4 killed when his kit-built electriP. Coonan
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From: nos...@ix.netcom.com (P. Coonan)
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Subject: Experimental pilot and his new fiancee among 4 killed when his kit-built electrical plane crashes
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 by: P. Coonan - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 06:02 UTC

Four people were killed when an electric plane built from a kit crashed in
California � including the experimental pilot and his new fianc�e,
according to reports.

Pilot Lochie Ferrier was flying a Cozy Mark IV, a single-engine, four-
seater plane, when it crashed around 7 p.m. Sunday near Moss Beach off the
coast of Half Moon Bay, south of San Francisco, KTVU reported.

A 911 caller reported seeing it crashing toward the water after first
hearing �the engine sputter,� said Sgt. Philip Hallworth of the San Mateo
County Sheriff�s Office.

The Australian-born pilot died with his fianc�e, venture capitalist
Cassidy Petit, their friend Emma Willmer-Shiles and a fourth person who
has yet to be identified.

Ferrier, who graduated from MIT in 2019 with a degree in aerospace
engineering, worked at Magpie Aviation, which specializes in electric
aircraft, and was the owner of the doomed plane, according to the outlet.

His LinkedIn also listed him as working for Beta Technologies, a Vermont-
based electronic aerospace company.

�Interested in electric airplanes. Design, build, fly!� his one-line
profile read.

Ferrier was well known in the so-called �experimental aircraft� community,
and was described as a �smart, capable pilot,� CBS News Bay Area reported.

Experts insisted that such aircraft should not be dismissed as unsafe just
because they�re built from kits.

�It�s a proven design,� retired airline captain Ross Sagun told CBS News
Bay Area, saying it is also �well tested.�

�Having said that, it�s up to the person building the airplane to properly
construct it and maintain good engineering and building practices,� he
told the outlet. �That�s hard to guarantee.�

Scott Miller, a pilot and San Jose State University lecturer, told KTVU
that �kit planes are flown every day of the week.�

�Sometimes tracking the history of these types of airplanes [is] a little
more difficult,� he said, because most do not �have any flight data or
cockpit voice recorders.�

Ferirer was recently engaged to Petit, of Hayward, who worked for San
Francisco venture capital firm RH Capital.

They and the unidentified fourth person are presumed dead even though
their bodies have yet to be found, the reports said.

The body of Willmer-Shiles, 27, of San Francisco, was recovered Monday
morning near the crash site, NBC Bay Area reported. The MIT grad was
identified by the San Mateo County Coroner�s Office.

The cause of the accident remains under investigation, the National
Transportation Safety Board said.

NTSB said a preliminary report into this crash will be completed in two to
three weeks.

However, a probable cause report will take between one and two years.

The Federal Aviation Administration is also involved in the investigation.

https://nypost.com/2024/01/17/news/4-dead-as-kit-built-plane-crashes-
including-pilot-fiancee/

Re: Experimental pilot and his new fiancee among 4 killed when his kit-built electrical plane crashes

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 by: Ron Wanttaja - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 16:30 UTC

On 1/17/2024 10:02 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
> Four people were killed when an electric plane built from a kit crashed in
> California — including the experimental pilot and his new fiancée,
> according to reports.

FAA records show the plane was powered by a Superior IO-360
reciprocating engine, not an electric one.

Ron Wanttaja

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 by: Gus Green - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 19:45 UTC

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>Four people were killed when an electric plane built from a kit crashed
in
>California - including the experimental pilot and his new fianc�e,
>according to reports.
>

Another Trump failure. Why he's backing EV's because of his friend Musk
is beyond me. This one's just like all the other shit he's failed at.

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!

Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump�s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

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 by: Johnny - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 19:47 UTC

>On 1/17/2024 10:02 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
>> Four people were killed when an electric plane built from a kit crashed in
>> California � " including the experimental pilot and his new fiancǸe,
>> according to reports.
>
>FAA records show the plane was powered by a Superior IO-360
>reciprocating engine, not an electric one.
>
>Ron Wanttaja
>
>

Then why did it crash? Planes with real engines never crash, only electric
ones.

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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 04:18 UTC

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 06:02:21 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Four people were killed when an electric plane built from a kit crashed in
>California — including the experimental pilot and his new fiancée,
>according to reports.
>
>Pilot Lochie Ferrier was flying a Cozy Mark IV, a single-engine, four-
>seater plane, when it crashed around 7 p.m. Sunday near Moss Beach off the
>coast of Half Moon Bay, south of San Francisco, KTVU reported.
>
>A 911 caller reported seeing it crashing toward the water after first
>hearing “the engine sputter,” said Sgt. Philip Hallworth of the San Mateo
>County Sheriff’s Office.

Electric motors don't "sputter".

Swill
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 by: Larry Dighera - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:31 UTC

This photo appears to show an IC engine, not an electric motor:
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/wreckage-seen-small-plane-crashes-75041949.jpg?resize=1536,1043&quality=75&strip=all

Video:
https://nypost.com/2024/01/17/news/4-dead-as-kit-built-plane-crashes-including-pilot-fiancee/

Tragic. RIP

Aviation is notoriously unforgiving ...

Larry Dighera

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:30:11 -0800, Ron Wanttaja <ron@wanttaja.com> wrote:

>On 1/17/2024 10:02 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
>> Four people were killed when an electric plane built from a kit crashed in
>> California — including the experimental pilot and his new fiancée,
>> according to reports.
>
>FAA records show the plane was powered by a Superior IO-360
>reciprocating engine, not an electric one.
>
>Ron Wanttaja
>

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