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On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 8:01:34 PM UTC-6, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> The control of wave windows is apparently moving from ARTCC to the local FISDO. How many of you have letters of agreements for WAVE Windows in the USA.
Albuquerque Soaring Club does. Negotiated last year - with local FSDO

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by: Tony - Sat, 1 May 2021 11:34 UTC

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-4, Eric Bick (DY) wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 8:01:34 PM UTC-6, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> > The control of wave windows is apparently moving from ARTCC to the local FISDO. How many of you have letters of agreements for WAVE Windows in the USA.
> Albuquerque Soaring Club does. Negotiated last year - with local FSDO
Weird that FSDO would get this, they already have staffing and budget issues. I know ASI and Boulder had ARTCC letters...

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by: Bill Hill - Sat, 1 May 2021 14:15 UTC

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 8:01:34 PM UTC-6, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> The control of wave windows is a (pparently moving from ARTCC to the local FISDO. How many of you have letters of agreements for WAVE Windows

Actually FISDO just wants to be part of the process since there are portions of FAR's being waved in the agreement. ATC, in the case of the Moriarty wave window is still the approving authority for flights into class A airspace in that they will open the wave window when traffic permits.
The Albuquerque Soaring Club broke ground on these new agreements and I'll be glad to forward a copy of our agreement with both ATC and FISDO to any one who wants a copy so they can use most of it as boiler plate for their own local letter,

Bill Hill

Mommy, what happens to your files when you die?

tech / rec.aviation.soaring / Wave Windows letters of agreement USA

Subject	Author
Wave Windows letters of agreement USA	Richard Pfiffner
Re: Wave Windows letters of agreement USA	Eric Bick (DY)
Re: Wave Windows letters of agreement USA	Tony
Re: Wave Windows letters of agreement USA	Bill Hill