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 by: Peter Pollack - Tue, 25 Apr 2023 20:38 UTC

Bots posting drug and auto parts deals? For years, this was my favorite forum on the internet. I feel like the native American guy in that old commercial, looking at the pile of trash with a tear in his eye.

At least I still have my first RNC. A forlorn reminder of a more civilized galaxy.

Pete

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 by: geoff - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 00:59 UTC

On 26/04/2023 8:38 am, Peter Pollack wrote:
> in that old commercial, looking at the pile of trash with a tear in his eye.

8...-(

geoff

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 by: geoff - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 01:01 UTC

On 26/04/2023 8:38 am, Peter Pollack wrote:
> Bots posting drug and auto parts deals? For years, this was my favorite forum on the internet. I feel like the native American guy in that old commercial, looking at the pile of trash with a tear in his eye.
>
> At least I still have my first RNC. A forlorn reminder of a more civilized galaxy.
>
> Pete

I guess somebody could set up something like 'rec.audio.pro.moderated'

..... if willing to do the filtering work (if it couldn't be automated).

geoff

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 by: Chris K-Man - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 01:06 UTC

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:02:07 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 26/04/2023 8:38 am, Peter Pollack wrote:
> > Bots posting drug and auto parts deals? For years, this was my favorite forum on the internet. I feel like the native American guy in that old commercial, looking at the pile of trash with a tear in his eye.
> >
> > At least I still have my first RNC. A forlorn reminder of a more civilized galaxy.
> >
> > Pete
> I guess somebody could set up something like 'rec.audio.pro.moderated'
>
> .... if willing to do the filtering work (if it couldn't be automated).
>
> geoff
________________

I call it the FUCKbook & SHItter effect.

This automotive site is suffering a similar brain drain thanks to
"social" media:

https://www.automotiveforums.com/

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 by: Ty Ford - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:38 UTC

Once I got the filters set up on my news reader and google, It's been less of a PITA, but still not what most newsgroups used to be. Guess I could set up a FB closed group or use one of the Meetup or something else. Does that sound enticing at all?

regards,

Ty Ford

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 by: John Williamson - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:46 UTC

On 26/04/2023 16:38, Ty Ford wrote:
> Once I got the filters set up on my news reader and google, It's been less of a PITA, but still not what most newsgroups used to be. Guess I could set up a FB closed group or use one of the Meetup or something else. Does that sound enticing at all?
>
If you search FB, you will find a few groups that may suit your needs,
such as this one:-

https://www.facebook.com/groups/RecordingMixing

Or you could join or set up a Mastodon server.

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/run-your-own/

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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 by: Chris K-Man - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 20:09 UTC

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:46:36 PM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
> If you search FB, you will find a few groups that may suit your needs,
> such as this one:-
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/RecordingMixing
>
> Or you could join or set up a Mastodon server.
>
> https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/run-your-own/
>
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.
___________

I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!

Disgusting in there...

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 by: John Williamson - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 07:45 UTC

On 26/04/2023 21:09, Chris K-Man wrote:

> I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!
>
> Disgusting in there...
>
I suspect the FB problem may be you. I am a member of a number of
groups, administer one and we don't have any major problems. There is
certainly less spam than on usenet, though finding a server which runs
Cleanfeed does reduce the spam there a lot.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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 by: geoff - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 07:59 UTC

On 27/04/2023 8:09 am, Chris K-Man wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:46:36 PM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
>> If you search FB, you will find a few groups that may suit your needs,
>> such as this one:-
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/RecordingMixing
>>
>> Or you could join or set up a Mastodon server.
>>
>> https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/run-your-own/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tciao for Now!
>>
>> John.
> ___________
>
> I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!
>
> Disgusting in there...

The suggestion was a PRIVATE Farcebook group.

geoff

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 by: Chris K-Man - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:40 UTC

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:45:07 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
> On 26/04/2023 21:09, Chris K-Man wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!
> >
> > Disgusting in there...
> >
> I suspect the FB problem may be you. I am a member of a number of
> groups, administer one and we don't have any major problems.
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.
___________

Of course you would blame me!

Just because I disagree with certain recent production values in recorded sound
means that I'm the problem!

No: The issue I take with the "social" platforms is the junk that gets posted up
on what you see every day - your "feed". And some many people fall for it,
and it influences their views, their politics, and how they vote. How do you
think the 1/6/2021 'visit' to the Capitol was organized? 80 percent on social
platforms!

I would rather interact with others about common topics in UseNet groups
dedicated to those topics, or, on moderated subject-specific forums, than
go on social sites and have to see posts that make my blood boil, on the
way to dedicated groups or pages.

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 by: polymod - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 14:48 UTC

"John Williamson" wrote in message news:kaunfsFgt32U1@mid.individual.net...

On 26/04/2023 21:09, Chris K-Man wrote:

> I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!
>
> Disgusting in there...
>
I suspect the FB problem may be you. I am a member of a number of
groups, administer one and we don't have any major problems. There is
certainly less spam than on usenet, though finding a server which runs
Cleanfeed does reduce the spam there a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Couldn't agree more. I belong to numerous FB groups including Moog,
Sequential, Fender, Gibson, Epiphone and numerous piano tuning and music
groups.
Many of my customers message me to make piano tuning/repair appointments.
It is what you make of it.

Poly

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On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:48:20 AM UTC-4, polymod wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Couldn't agree more. I belong to numerous FB groups including Moog,
> Sequential, Fender, Gibson, Epiphone and numerous piano tuning and music
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> Many of my customers message me to make piano tuning/repair appointments.
> It is what you make of it.
>
> Poly
>
>
> --
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> www.avast.com
_______________

I'll throw in a twist to this discourse: I'd like to find away to reverse the migration
of contributors from Usenet and moderated topic forums to the social cesspool.

Make newsgroups and internet forums more appealing again.

What would you all suggest?

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There’s a nice wind mill just over the hill to the west. Pray take your lance, get on your pony and ride.

Ty Ford

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On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-4, Ty Ford wrote:
> There’s a nice wind mill just over the hill to the west.
>Pray take your lance, get on your pony and ride.
>
> Ty Ford
_______________

I don't know what windmills and ponies have to do with brainstorming
solutions to stop the brain drain from topical Usenet and moderated
forums.

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On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-4, Chris K-Man wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-4, Ty Ford wrote:
> > There’s a nice wind mill just over the hill to the west.
> >Pray take your lance, get on your pony and ride.
> >
> > Ty Ford
> _______________
>
> I don't know what windmills and ponies have to do with brainstorming
> solutions to stop the brain drain from topical Usenet and moderated
> forums.

I guess you missed my point.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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 by: geoff - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 22:35 UTC

On 27/04/2023 10:40 pm, Chris K-Man wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:45:07 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 26/04/2023 21:09, Chris K-Man wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!
>>>
>>> Disgusting in there...
>>>
>> I suspect the FB problem may be you. I am a member of a number of
>> groups, administer one and we don't have any major problems.
>> --
>> Tciao for Now!
>>
>> John.
> ___________
>
> Of course you would blame me!
>
> Just because I disagree with certain recent production values in recorded sound
> means that I'm the problem!
>
> No: The issue I take with the "social" platforms is the junk that gets posted up
> on what you see every day - your "feed". And some many people fall for it,
> and it influences their views, their politics, and how they vote. How do you
> think the 1/6/2021 'visit' to the Capitol was organized? 80 percent on social
> platforms!
>
> I would rather interact with others about common topics in UseNet groups
> dedicated to those topics, or, on moderated subject-specific forums, than
> go on social sites and have to see posts that make my blood boil, on the
> way to dedicated groups or pages.

Up to you whether or not you browse your 'feed'. Easy to ignore - just
go straight to yor group of interest.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 22:36 UTC

On 28/04/2023 2:48 am, polymod wrote:
>
>
> "John Williamson"  wrote in message
> news:kaunfsFgt32U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> On 26/04/2023 21:09, Chris K-Man wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't recommend FUCKbook to my worst enemy, lol!
>>
>> Disgusting in there...
>>
> I suspect the FB problem may be you. I am a member of a number of
> groups, administer one and we don't have any major problems. There is
> certainly less spam than on usenet, though finding a server which runs
> Cleanfeed does reduce the spam there a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Couldn't agree more. I belong to numerous FB groups including Moog,
> Sequential, Fender, Gibson, Epiphone and numerous piano tuning and music
> groups.
> Many of my customers message me to make piano tuning/repair appointments.
> It is what you make of it.
>
> Poly
>

Moderator controls the membership.

geoff

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 by: Chris K-Man - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 22:50 UTC

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>
> Up to you whether or not you browse your 'feed'. Easy to ignore - just
> go straight to yor group of interest.
>
> geoff
____________

So in essence some of you see the fading relevance of UseNet, or moderated forum
membership decline, and flocking to social media sites as "progress"?

I might have disagreed with some here regarding the digital era loudness issue,
but I disagree even more so about this situation.

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 by: Les Cargill - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:24 UTC

Ty Ford wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-4, Chris K-Man wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-4, Ty Ford wrote:
>>> There’s a nice wind mill just over the hill to the west.
>>> Pray take your lance, get on your pony and ride.
>>>
>>> Ty Ford
>> _______________
>>
>> I don't know what windmills and ponies have to do with brainstorming
>> solutions to stop the brain drain from topical Usenet and moderated
>> forums.
>
> I guess you missed my point.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>

Perhaps you are dreaming an impossible dream.

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Ty Ford <tyre3ef0rd@gmail.com> said...news:ab884596-db92-424a-ba4a-
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> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-4, Chris K-Man wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-4, Ty Ford wrote:
>
>> > There’s a nice wind mill just over the hill to the west.
>> >Pray take your lance, get on your pony and ride.
>> >
>> > Ty Ford
>> _______________
>>
>> I don't know what windmills and ponies have to do with brainstorming
>> solutions to stop the brain drain from topical Usenet and moderated
>> forums.
>
> I guess you missed my point.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford

Thanks, that was hilarious!

david

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 by: geoff - Fri, 28 Apr 2023 04:30 UTC

On 28/04/2023 10:50 am, Chris K-Man wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>>
>> Up to you whether or not you browse your 'feed'. Easy to ignore - just
>> go straight to yor group of interest.
>>
>> geoff
> ____________
>
> So in essence some of you see the fading relevance of UseNet, or moderated forum
> membership decline, and flocking to social media sites as "progress"?
>
> I might have disagreed with some here regarding the digital era loudness issue,
> but I disagree even more so about this situation.
>

No problem. You create and moderate rec.audio.pro.moderated and USENET
is preserved for us.

Easy-peasy.

geoff

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 by: Chris K-Man - Fri, 28 Apr 2023 13:09 UTC

On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:31:07 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:

> >
> No problem. You create and moderate rec.audio.pro.moderated and USENET
> is preserved for us.
>
> Easy-peasy.
>
> geoff
___________________

geoff:

UseNet is the ultimate internet "democracy".

Participants(it's voters really) are in most groups free to come and go as they wish.

And many 'voters' here have already done so - by electing to flock to social media sites to
conduct the same discourse they did, in here.

And you know what they say, when the grass dies, the weeds(the spammers, bots) crop up!
Which is exactly what is happing in many UseNet newsgroups, and in moderated private
forums.

I 'vote' to conduct the discussion of audio in newsgroups like this, and in moderated forums
such as GearSpace(nee -'Slutz') or HeadFi. And to conduct shop talk on rec..autos.tech,
the aformentioned Automotive Forums, and manufacturer specific fourms, e.g. 'DriveAccord'
for Hondas, etc.

*Oh by the way, my aunt had a knee implant, and my wife is trying a new hair color. And did you
see who was on Kelly Clarkson's show Thursday?....*

That last load of *horse pucky prattle* may kindly remain on FAKEbook, Shitter, and InstaScam,
a-thank-you-very-much. ;)

Now, back to gain staging, the best mic-pres, and IP-based studio practices!

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 by: John Williamson - Fri, 28 Apr 2023 16:20 UTC

On 28/04/2023 14:09, Chris K-Man wrote:

> I 'vote' to conduct the discussion of audio in newsgroups like this, and in moderated forums
> such as GearSpace(nee -'Slutz') or HeadFi. And to conduct shop talk on rec.autos.tech,
> the aformentioned Automotive Forums, and manufacturer specific fourms, e.g. 'DriveAccord'
> for Hondas, etc.
>
Your vote has been noted.

All those who have exercised their right to go elsewhere are not aware
you have voted nor are those who have your name prominently featured in
their killfiles.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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 by: Chris K-Man - Fri, 28 Apr 2023 16:43 UTC

On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:20:34 PM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:

> Your vote has been noted.
>
> All those who have exercised their right to go elsewhere are not aware
> you have voted nor are those who have your name prominently featured in
> their killfiles.
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.
_______________________

John W:

Precisely what is your problem with me??

We both know nothing of each other beyond these keystrokes, and yet it seems you
regard me as the next Genghis Khan or something.

My comments in this thread, and in others, are in the spirit of good will, and of desiring only
the best for the venues in which we come to discuss our favorite topics, passions, or whatever.

My past input on things like the 'loudness war' in recorded music came from the heart, and not
from any interest in 'trolling' or whatever you feel like accusing me of being.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 13:01:03 -0700 (PDT), Chris K-Man
<thekmanrocks@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 3:49:58?PM UTC-4, Ty Ford wrote:
>> There’s a nice wind mill just over the hill to the west.
>>Pray take your lance, get on your pony and ride.
>>
>> Ty Ford
>_______________
>
>I don't know what windmills and ponies have to do with brainstorming
>solutions to stop the brain drain from topical Usenet and moderated
>forums.
Look up Cervantes


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