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Concordia and the AS35

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by: Martin Gregorie - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 16:37 UTC

I've recently been reading an article in Sailplane & Glider about the new
AS35, https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/en/we-present-the-new-as-35-mi/

which reminded me a lot of the Concordia, because the AS35 seems in many
ways to be a smaller development in that its also a smaller Open glider,
and hence more manoeverable in traffic, as well as using a small, highly
loaded wing. In addition, some of the current AS design team were also
involved with Concordia.

Most of what I found out about Concordia is on the excellent Concordia
website,

https://concordia-sailplane.com/

but it is incomplete, so first question: is the website still a work in
progress or has work on it stopped?

Further web searches turned up remarkably little more material about
Concordia, which reminded me that I've heard almost nothing about it
since its appearance and 7th place at the Uvalde WC, so does anybody on
r.a.s know what's been happening with it since Uvalde?

Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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by: Frank Whiteley - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:35 UTC

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:37:47 AM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> I've recently been reading an article in Sailplane & Glider about the new
> AS35, https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/en/we-present-the-new-as-35-mi/
>
> which reminded me a lot of the Concordia, because the AS35 seems in many
> ways to be a smaller development in that its also a smaller Open glider,
> and hence more manoeverable in traffic, as well as using a small, highly
> loaded wing. In addition, some of the current AS design team were also
> involved with Concordia.
>
> Most of what I found out about Concordia is on the excellent Concordia
> website,
>
> https://concordia-sailplane.com/
>
> but it is incomplete, so first question: is the website still a work in
> progress or has work on it stopped?
>
> Further web searches turned up remarkably little more material about
> Concordia, which reminded me that I've heard almost nothing about it
> since its appearance and 7th place at the Uvalde WC, so does anybody on
> r.a.s know what's been happening with it since Uvalde?
>
>
> --
>
> Martin | martin at
> Gregorie | gregorie dot org
It's been raced in several Regionals and Nationals through the 2019 season.

Frank Whiteley

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by: Martin Gregorie - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:59 UTC

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley wrote:

> It's been raced in several Regionals and Nationals through the 2019
> season.
>
> Frank Whiteley

Good to hear. How has it done? I don't usually see US racing results or
know where to find them.

Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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by: 2G - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 18:41 UTC

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 10:00:02 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley wrote:
>
> > It's been raced in several Regionals and Nationals through the 2019
> > season.
> >
> > Frank Whiteley
> Good to hear. How has it done? I don't usually see US racing results or
> know where to find them.
> --
>
> Martin | martin at
> Gregorie | gregorie dot org

They are ostensibly on the SSA's website, but I could not find any results for most of the contests.

Tom

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by: Frank Whiteley - Mon, 25 Oct 2021 02:22 UTC

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 11:00:02 AM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley wrote:
>
> > It's been raced in several Regionals and Nationals through the 2019
> > season.
> >
> > Frank Whiteley
> Good to hear. How has it done? I don't usually see US racing results or
> know where to find them.
> --
>
> Martin | martin at
> Gregorie | gregorie dot org
I think, but haven't confirmed, that Dick Butler flew the Concordia in each of the following contests/open class since WGC2012. He did not register for the cancelled 2020 Open Class Nationals nor for the 2021 contest.

2019 2019 Open Class and 18 Meter Class Nationals 5
2019 Region 5 North 1
2018 15-Meter and Open Class Nationals 1
2018 Region 5 North 1
2017 2017 15 Meter, Open, and Standard Class Nationals 2
2016 2016 15 meter, Open, and Std Nationals 2
2016 Region 5 North 1
2015 18 Meter, Open and US Club Class Nationals 1
2015 Region 5 North 1
2014 Region 5 North 1
2013 2013 15 Meter/Open Class Nationals 2

Frank Whiteley

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by: Martin Gregorie - Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:37 UTC

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:22:34 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley wrote:

> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 11:00:02 AM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>
>> > It's been raced in several Regionals and Nationals through the 2019
>> > season.
>> >
>> > Frank Whiteley
>> Good to hear. How has it done? I don't usually see US racing results or
>> know where to find them.
>> --
>>
>> Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org
> I think, but haven't confirmed, that Dick Butler flew the Concordia in
> each of the following contests/open class since WGC2012. He did not
> register for the cancelled 2020 Open Class Nationals nor for the 2021
> contest.
>
> 2019 2019 Open Class and 18 Meter Class Nationals 5 2019 Region 5
North
> 1 2018 15-Meter and Open Class Nationals 1 2018 Region 5
North 1 2017
> 2017 15 Meter, Open, and Standard Class Nationals 2 2016 2016 15
meter,
> Open, and Std Nationals 2 2016 Region 5 North 1 2015 18 Meter,
Open and
> US Club Class Nationals 1 2015 Region 5 North 1 2014 Region 5
North 1
> 2013 2013 15 Meter/Open Class Nationals 2
>
> Frank Whiteley

Thanks, Frank - good to see that it and its pilot are continuing the good
work.

Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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by: Hank Nixon - Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:59 UTC

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 12:37:47 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> I've recently been reading an article in Sailplane & Glider about the new
> AS35, https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/en/we-present-the-new-as-35-mi/
>
> which reminded me a lot of the Concordia, because the AS35 seems in many
> ways to be a smaller development in that its also a smaller Open glider,
> and hence more manoeverable in traffic, as well as using a small, highly
> loaded wing. In addition, some of the current AS design team were also
> involved with Concordia.
>
> Most of what I found out about Concordia is on the excellent Concordia
> website,
>
> https://concordia-sailplane.com/
>
> but it is incomplete, so first question: is the website still a work in
> progress or has work on it stopped?
>
> Further web searches turned up remarkably little more material about
> Concordia, which reminded me that I've heard almost nothing about it
> since its appearance and 7th place at the Uvalde WC, so does anybody on
> r.a.s know what's been happening with it since Uvalde?
>
>
> --
>
> Martin | martin at
> Gregorie | gregorie dot org

Last I heard Dick was working on adding an electric sustainer system. He flew the Etabiter at Perry this year.
UH

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by: Eric Greenwell - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 02:48 UTC

On 10/25/2021 11:59 AM, Hank Nixon wrote:
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 12:37:47 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> I've recently been reading an article in Sailplane & Glider about the new
>> AS35, https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/en/we-present-the-new-as-35-mi/
>>
>> which reminded me a lot of the Concordia, because the AS35 seems in many
>> ways to be a smaller development in that its also a smaller Open glider,
>> and hence more manoeverable in traffic, as well as using a small, highly
>> loaded wing. In addition, some of the current AS design team were also
>> involved with Concordia.
>>
>> Most of what I found out about Concordia is on the excellent Concordia
>> website,
>>
>> https://concordia-sailplane.com/
>>
>> but it is incomplete, so first question: is the website still a work in
>> progress or has work on it stopped?
>>
>> Further web searches turned up remarkably little more material about
>> Concordia, which reminded me that I've heard almost nothing about it
>> since its appearance and 7th place at the Uvalde WC, so does anybody on
>> r.a.s know what's been happening with it since Uvalde?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Martin | martin at
>> Gregorie | gregorie dot org
>
> Last I heard Dick was working on adding an electric sustainer system. He flew the Etabiter at Perry this year.
> UH
>
FES or RES?

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1

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by: Hank Nixon - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:17 UTC

On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On 10/25/2021 11:59 AM, Hank Nixon wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 12:37:47 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> >> I've recently been reading an article in Sailplane & Glider about the new
> >> AS35, https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/en/we-present-the-new-as-35-mi/
> >>
> >> which reminded me a lot of the Concordia, because the AS35 seems in many
> >> ways to be a smaller development in that its also a smaller Open glider,
> >> and hence more manoeverable in traffic, as well as using a small, highly
> >> loaded wing. In addition, some of the current AS design team were also
> >> involved with Concordia.
> >>
> >> Most of what I found out about Concordia is on the excellent Concordia
> >> website,
> >>
> >> https://concordia-sailplane.com/
> >>
> >> but it is incomplete, so first question: is the website still a work in
> >> progress or has work on it stopped?
> >>
> >> Further web searches turned up remarkably little more material about
> >> Concordia, which reminded me that I've heard almost nothing about it
> >> since its appearance and 7th place at the Uvalde WC, so does anybody on
> >> r.a.s know what's been happening with it since Uvalde?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Martin | martin at
> >> Gregorie | gregorie dot org
> >
> > Last I heard Dick was working on adding an electric sustainer system. He flew the Etabiter at Perry this year.
> > UH
> >
> FES or RES?
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - USA
> - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
> https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1

RES

Subject	Author
Concordia and the AS35	Martin Gregorie
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Frank Whiteley
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Martin Gregorie
Re: Concordia and the AS35	2G
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Frank Whiteley
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Martin Gregorie
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Hank Nixon
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Eric Greenwell
Re: Concordia and the AS35	Hank Nixon