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* Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesTobiah
+- Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesLiz Tuddenham
+- Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesScott Dorsey
`* Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesTobiah
 +- Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesgeoff
 +* Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesLiz Tuddenham
 |`- Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesjason_warren@ieee.org
 `- Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteriesScott Dorsey

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Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries

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From: tob...@tobiah.org (Tobiah)
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Subject: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries
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 by: Tobiah - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:14 UTC

But it works fine on the adapter. Tried two sets of
new batteries. I suppose I'll open it up, but I thought
I'd ask about it first (since so many rabbits get pulled out
of hats here) and at least get some idea as to what to look for.

The unit sat in a box for some years, without batteries in it.
There is no sign of previous battery leakage in the battery
compartment.

Thanks,

Tobiah

Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries

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From: liz...@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)
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Subject: Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries
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 by: Liz Tuddenham - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:51 UTC

Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:

> But it works fine on the adapter. Tried two sets of
> new batteries. I suppose I'll open it up, but I thought
> I'd ask about it first (since so many rabbits get pulled out
> of hats here) and at least get some idea as to what to look for.
>
> The unit sat in a box for some years, without batteries in it.
> There is no sign of previous battery leakage in the battery
> compartment.

Has the power input plug bent the switching contact inside the socket so
that when you pull the plug out, the contact no longer springs back
properly? This can happen with oversized plugs or after a hefty
sideways tug on the power cable.

If you do open it up, check the solder pads holding the power socket to
the board, they can tear away from the tracks if the cable is tugged
sideways or the socket works loose.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries

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From: klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
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Subject: Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries
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 by: Scott Dorsey - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 00:35 UTC

In article <uvbtm9$2g84q$1@dont-email.me>, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
>But it works fine on the adapter. Tried two sets of
>new batteries. I suppose I'll open it up, but I thought
>I'd ask about it first (since so many rabbits get pulled out
>of hats here) and at least get some idea as to what to look for.

What's the no-load battery voltage on those?

Do the batteries charge in the charger?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Subject: Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries
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 by: Tobiah - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 01:52 UTC

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is embarrassing.
I opened the thing up, and wanted to go with the power jack idea.
I thought maybe there was a stuck switch inside that blocked battery
power when the adapter was plugged in. I thought I'd remembered
seeing such a thing.

Tunnel vision engaged, I spent way too much time trying to get the
amp board removed. I think the RCA plugs were holding it tight.
They seemed to have a metal flange on the outside of the plastic.

I never did get the board out, so I never got a good look at the
jack, but I could at least see that the solder connections were
not broken.

Tired and dejected, I buttoned up the machine and set it aside.

But do you think I'd hung a voltmeter on the battery compartment?
No way. Today I did better. I removed the battery tray and checked
the voltage coming out of it. Nada. It looked pristine. I had spun
all the batteries and all the contacts were clean. Tracing it down,
there was one positive pad that wasn't conducting. I mean I scraped
it with the voltmeter probe, and go nothing.

So I took a Dremel tool, and burnished the contacts. Of course
now the machine works fine again.

The only thing that worries me is that the contacts went from silver to
gold color. Would that be copper? Will I have the same problem in
short order having exposed the copper? Should I tin them?

Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries

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 by: geoff - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 04:16 UTC

On 16/04/2024 1:52 pm, Tobiah wrote:
> I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is embarrassing.
> I opened the thing up, and wanted to go with the power jack idea.
> I thought maybe there was a stuck switch inside that blocked battery
> power when the adapter was plugged in.  I thought I'd remembered
> seeing such a thing.
>
> Tunnel vision engaged, I spent way too much time trying to get the
> amp board removed.  I think the RCA plugs were holding it tight.
> They seemed to have a metal flange on the outside of the plastic.
>
> I never did get the board out, so I never got a good look at the
> jack, but I could at least see that the solder connections were
> not broken.
>
> Tired and dejected, I buttoned up the machine and set it aside.
>
> But do you think I'd hung a voltmeter on the battery compartment?
> No way.  Today I did better.  I removed the battery tray and checked
> the voltage coming out of it.  Nada.  It looked pristine.  I had spun
> all the batteries and all the contacts were clean.  Tracing it down,
> there was one positive pad that wasn't conducting.  I mean I scraped
> it with the voltmeter probe, and go nothing.
>
> So I took a Dremel tool, and burnished the contacts.  Of course
> now the machine works fine again.
>
> The only thing that worries me is that the contacts went from silver to
> gold color.  Would that be copper?  Will I have the same problem in
> short order having exposed the copper?  Should I tin them?
>

More like brass. I would treat them with Caig P5 Preserve-it , or
whatever the current name is.

geoff

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Subject: Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries
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 by: Liz Tuddenham - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 11:49 UTC

Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:

> I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is embarrassing.
> I opened the thing up, and wanted to go with the power jack idea.
> I thought maybe there was a stuck switch inside that blocked battery
> power when the adapter was plugged in. I thought I'd remembered
> seeing such a thing.
>
> Tunnel vision engaged, I spent way too much time trying to get the
> amp board removed. I think the RCA plugs were holding it tight.
> They seemed to have a metal flange on the outside of the plastic.
>
> I never did get the board out, so I never got a good look at the
> jack, but I could at least see that the solder connections were
> not broken.
>
> Tired and dejected, I buttoned up the machine and set it aside.
>
> But do you think I'd hung a voltmeter on the battery compartment?
> No way. Today I did better. I removed the battery tray and checked
> the voltage coming out of it. Nada. It looked pristine. I had spun
> all the batteries and all the contacts were clean. Tracing it down,
> there was one positive pad that wasn't conducting. I mean I scraped
> it with the voltmeter probe, and go nothing.
>
> So I took a Dremel tool, and burnished the contacts. Of course
> now the machine works fine again.
>
> The only thing that worries me is that the contacts went from silver to
> gold color. Would that be copper? Will I have the same problem in
> short order having exposed the copper? Should I tin them?

Too late to help you now, but the corrosion from alkaline batteries
comes off easily when wiped with a cloth dampened with water.
Mechanically it is hard as nails and resistant to all sorts of
specialised cleaning solvents, but it dissolves in water.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

Re: Tascam HD-P2 Won't work with batteries

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In article <1qs3y10.13el60y7m3gi8N%
liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>,
liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid says...
>
....
>
> Too late to help you now, but the corrosion from alkaline batteries
> comes off easily when wiped with a cloth dampened with water.
> Mechanically it is hard as nails and resistant to all sorts of
> specialised cleaning solvents, but it dissolves in water.

Years ago I called up the Duracell manufacturer and asked
about cleaning up leakage. They said that a little bit of
vinegar (and water) would do it. Have used that many times
since.

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 by: Scott Dorsey - Tue, 14 May 2024 00:01 UTC

In article <uvklkf$jfhg$1@dont-email.me>, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
>The only thing that worries me is that the contacts went from silver to
>gold color. Would that be copper? Will I have the same problem in
>short order having exposed the copper? Should I tin them?

It's phosphor bronze, which is springy (whereas copper is not). Yes,
it will corrode again. Tinning will help but put the thinnest possible
layer on it, because the solder will deform under pressure. Nickel plate
is better if you have a bottle of PC board nickel.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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