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 by: D. Spencer Hines - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:38 UTC

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:45:56 PM UTC-10, Surreyman wrote:
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 2:10:04 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:38:38 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:36:36 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 3:48:15 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:15:21 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "As a military man"?
> > > > > > > You're not seriousaly crediting (the real) Hines with any real military experience, are you?
> >
> > > >
> > > > I haven't notice anything funny about the Mr. Hines in this thread. I think it's the Real One.
> > > >
> > > > Once, I sent him a book signed by Tom Clancy; he must remember the title.
> > > And ask him my son's name. He should also know why he should know it ......
> > Why should he know your son's name?
> >
> > He listens to a TV personality called Mark Levin, a Magatite as repulsive physically as he is rhetorically.
> >
> > It’s an article of faith among many Republicans that Biden is doddering and senile, when in fact Biden has been a gaffe machine all his life, and if he exhibits any infirmities... it's not uncommon in people in decline at his age. I don't agree with some if his policies, but I don't think it's because he is senile. This is born of the 'politics of unkindness' fad made central by Trump, who lives to denigrate other people. Look at the army of associates, allies, and cabinet secretaries he's had. More than half are now enemies.
> >
> > You rain on people's parades and they'll piss all over you. That's American politics today... all raining and pissing.
> >
> > You'd think "Mr. Hines" would be loath to show ageism, at his age, but Fox News forces people think in such ways, by virtue of repetition. Repeat a lie or slander often enough and it will stick to an increasing number. Go to places where they manipulate your brain, and you will come out with a manipulated brain made to hold garbage and fallacy sacred. I see it in people. Some have been made to believe Biden stole the election. EVEN after 61 tests of such a proposition failed in the courts. What the fuck do they need to notice that their election beliefs are unfounded?
> >
> > It's not pretty what it does to a healthy brain, holding such clutter of error and buzz of zombie ideas. You get to like Mark Levin, for one.
> > Let me be transfixed by a rusty Pilum Romanus before I watch more than a few mocking seconds of the looming massive forehead of this Levin twit - a hilarious human ram ramming MAGA "truths" into willing brains softened by partisan rot into sycophantic endosperm.
> >
> > Anyway... Mr. Hines lately seems to be exerting visible caloric effort to criticize the Democratic president, but he has some reckoning pending...
> > My charitable view is that Mr. Hines believed, or hoped, that somehow the office would become Trump, that the mystical mingling of the man and the presidency would elevate the former rather than debase the latter. How did that work out? Expound on that, Mr. Hines.
>
> "Why should he know your son's name?"
> That's the question the real Hines can answer.

--------------------Cordon Sanitaire---------------------------------------------------

Another very entertaining French crypto-noir I've immensely enjoyed recently, is Claude Lelouch's _Roman de Gare_.

“L’enfer, c’est les autres.” Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) in Huis Clos (No Exit) 1944

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Subject: Re: The GOP 2023
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 by: D. Spencer Hines - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:39 UTC

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:45:56 PM UTC-10, Surreyman wrote:
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 2:10:04 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:38:38 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:36:36 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 3:48:15 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:15:21 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "As a military man"?
> > > > > > > You're not seriousaly crediting (the real) Hines with any real military experience, are you?
> >
> > > >
> > > > I haven't notice anything funny about the Mr. Hines in this thread. I think it's the Real One.
> > > >
> > > > Once, I sent him a book signed by Tom Clancy; he must remember the title.
> > > And ask him my son's name. He should also know why he should know it ......
> > Why should he know your son's name?
> >
> > He listens to a TV personality called Mark Levin, a Magatite as repulsive physically as he is rhetorically.
> >
> > It’s an article of faith among many Republicans that Biden is doddering and senile, when in fact Biden has been a gaffe machine all his life, and if he exhibits any infirmities... it's not uncommon in people in decline at his age. I don't agree with some if his policies, but I don't think it's because he is senile. This is born of the 'politics of unkindness' fad made central by Trump, who lives to denigrate other people. Look at the army of associates, allies, and cabinet secretaries he's had. More than half are now enemies.
> >
> > You rain on people's parades and they'll piss all over you. That's American politics today... all raining and pissing.
> >
> > You'd think "Mr. Hines" would be loath to show ageism, at his age, but Fox News forces people think in such ways, by virtue of repetition. Repeat a lie or slander often enough and it will stick to an increasing number. Go to places where they manipulate your brain, and you will come out with a manipulated brain made to hold garbage and fallacy sacred. I see it in people. Some have been made to believe Biden stole the election. EVEN after 61 tests of such a proposition failed in the courts. What the fuck do they need to notice that their election beliefs are unfounded?
> >
> > It's not pretty what it does to a healthy brain, holding such clutter of error and buzz of zombie ideas. You get to like Mark Levin, for one.
> > Let me be transfixed by a rusty Pilum Romanus before I watch more than a few mocking seconds of the looming massive forehead of this Levin twit - a hilarious human ram ramming MAGA "truths" into willing brains softened by partisan rot into sycophantic endosperm.
> >
> > Anyway... Mr. Hines lately seems to be exerting visible caloric effort to criticize the Democratic president, but he has some reckoning pending...
> > My charitable view is that Mr. Hines believed, or hoped, that somehow the office would become Trump, that the mystical mingling of the man and the presidency would elevate the former rather than debase the latter. How did that work out? Expound on that, Mr. Hines.
>
> "Why should he know your son's name?"
> That's the question the real Hines can answer.

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 by: D. Spencer Hines - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:52 UTC

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 3:38:16 PM UTC-10, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:45:56 PM UTC-10, Surreyman wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 2:10:04 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:38:38 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:36:36 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 3:48:15 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:15:21 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "As a military man"?
> > > > > > > > You're not seriousaly crediting (the real) Hines with any real military experience, are you?
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't notice anything funny about the Mr. Hines in this thread. I think it's the Real One.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once, I sent him a book signed by Tom Clancy; he must remember the title.
> > > > And ask him my son's name. He should also know why he should know it .....
> > > Why should he know your son's name?
> > >
> > > He listens to a TV personality called Mark Levin, a Magatite as repulsive physically as he is rhetorically.
> > >
> > > It’s an article of faith among many Republicans that Biden is doddering and senile, when in fact Biden has been a gaffe machine all his life, and if he exhibits any infirmities... it's not uncommon in people in decline at his age. I don't agree with some if his policies, but I don't think it's because he is senile. This is born of the 'politics of unkindness' fad made central by Trump, who lives to denigrate other people. Look at the army of associates, allies, and cabinet secretaries he's had. More than half are now enemies.
> > >
> > > You rain on people's parades and they'll piss all over you. That's American politics today... all raining and pissing.
> > >
> > > You'd think "Mr. Hines" would be loath to show ageism, at his age, but Fox News forces people think in such ways, by virtue of repetition. Repeat a lie or slander often enough and it will stick to an increasing number. Go to places where they manipulate your brain, and you will come out with a manipulated brain made to hold garbage and fallacy sacred. I see it in people. Some have been made to believe Biden stole the election. EVEN after 61 tests of such a proposition failed in the courts. What the fuck do they need to notice that their election beliefs are unfounded?
> > >
> > > It's not pretty what it does to a healthy brain, holding such clutter of error and buzz of zombie ideas. You get to like Mark Levin, for one.
> > > Let me be transfixed by a rusty Pilum Romanus before I watch more than a few mocking seconds of the looming massive forehead of this Levin twit - a hilarious human ram ramming MAGA "truths" into willing brains softened by partisan rot into sycophantic endosperm.
> > >
> > > Anyway... Mr. Hines lately seems to be exerting visible caloric effort to criticize the Democratic president, but he has some reckoning pending....
> > > My charitable view is that Mr. Hines believed, or hoped, that somehow the office would become Trump, that the mystical mingling of the man and the presidency would elevate the former rather than debase the latter. How did that work out? Expound on that, Mr. Hines.
> >
> > "Why should he know your son's name?"
> > That's the question the real Hines can answer.

> --------------------Cordon Sanitaire---------------------------------------------------
>
> Another very entertaining French crypto-noir I've immensely enjoyed recently, is Claude Lelouch's _Roman de Gare_.
>
> “L’enfer, c’est les autres.” Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) in Huis Clos (No Exit) 1944

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2024 U.S. Presidential Election

How small and wizened are some of the dwarfed-minds in this newsgroup ---- and those of "Surreyman" and "Tiglath" are at the top of the heap.

They act as if there is only one Democrat candidate for POTUS and one Republican.

How Stupidly Reductionist...

“L’enfer, c’est les autres.” Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) in Huis Clos (No Exit) 1944

D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas

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 by: D. Spencer Hines - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:55 UTC

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 3:39:44 PM UTC-10, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:45:56 PM UTC-10, Surreyman wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 2:10:04 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:38:38 AM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:36:36 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 3:48:15 AM UTC-4, Surreyman wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:15:21 PM UTC+1, Tiglath wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "As a military man"?
> > > > > > > > You're not seriousaly crediting (the real) Hines with any real military experience, are you?
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't notice anything funny about the Mr. Hines in this thread. I think it's the Real One.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once, I sent him a book signed by Tom Clancy; he must remember the title.
> > > > And ask him my son's name. He should also know why he should know it .....
> > > Why should he know your son's name?
> > >
> > > He listens to a TV personality called Mark Levin, a Magatite as repulsive physically as he is rhetorically.
> > >
> > > It’s an article of faith among many Republicans that Biden is doddering and senile, when in fact Biden has been a gaffe machine all his life, and if he exhibits any infirmities... it's not uncommon in people in decline at his age. I don't agree with some if his policies, but I don't think it's because he is senile. This is born of the 'politics of unkindness' fad made central by Trump, who lives to denigrate other people. Look at the army of associates, allies, and cabinet secretaries he's had. More than half are now enemies.
> > >
> > > You rain on people's parades and they'll piss all over you. That's American politics today... all raining and pissing.
> > >
> > > You'd think "Mr. Hines" would be loath to show ageism, at his age, but Fox News forces people think in such ways, by virtue of repetition. Repeat a lie or slander often enough and it will stick to an increasing number. Go to places where they manipulate your brain, and you will come out with a manipulated brain made to hold garbage and fallacy sacred. I see it in people. Some have been made to believe Biden stole the election. EVEN after 61 tests of such a proposition failed in the courts. What the fuck do they need to notice that their election beliefs are unfounded?
> > >
> > > It's not pretty what it does to a healthy brain, holding such clutter of error and buzz of zombie ideas. You get to like Mark Levin, for one.
> > > Let me be transfixed by a rusty Pilum Romanus before I watch more than a few mocking seconds of the looming massive forehead of this Levin twit - a hilarious human ram ramming MAGA "truths" into willing brains softened by partisan rot into sycophantic endosperm.
> > >
> > > Anyway... Mr. Hines lately seems to be exerting visible caloric effort to criticize the Democratic president, but he has some reckoning pending....
> > > My charitable view is that Mr. Hines believed, or hoped, that somehow the office would become Trump, that the mystical mingling of the man and the presidency would elevate the former rather than debase the latter. How did that work out? Expound on that, Mr. Hines.
> >
> > "Why should he know your son's name?"
> > That's the question the real Hines can answer.

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 by: Tiglath - Thu, 31 Aug 2023 09:52 UTC

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 9:53:01 PM UTC-4, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> > > "Why should he know your son's name?"
> > > That's the question the real Hines can answer.
>
> > --------------------Cordon Sanitaire---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Another very entertaining French crypto-noir I've immensely enjoyed recently, is Claude Lelouch's _Roman de Gare_.
> >
> > “L’enfer, c’est les autres.” Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) in Huis Clos (No Exit) 1944
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2024 U.S. Presidential Election
>
> How small and wizened are some of the dwarfed-minds in this newsgroup ---- and those of "Surreyman" and "Tiglath" are at the top of the heap.
>
> They act as if there is only one Democrat candidate for POTUS and one Republican.
>
> How Stupidly Reductionist...
> “L’enfer, c’est les autres.” Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) in Huis Clos (No Exit) 1944
> D. Spencer Hines
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas

That bad, eh? OK.

Spencer lays down another bet in his inimitable style.

(Mr. Hines rails against Biden's alleging senility but remains mute on McConnell's embarrassing public mental lapses.
More evidence of absurd bias and smelly partisanship.)

Hinesian Prophecy deems DeSanctimonius' butt worth watching... the way you lie down on the grass on a clear night facing the darkness watching for the shooting Star that delights mortal eyes. At the moment, I only see clouds..

Maybe clouds will part for the man from Florida as charming as a textile mill. ... Good luck with that, amigo.

Now Spencer suggests, additionally, that either Biden or Trump will not be nominated by their parties.
How does he know? Man, he always has secret sources that keep him ahead of all of us curious cats. That's how he knew about the WMD all along, while we... forget it. There is no indication yet that we are NOT going to have a Trump-Biden ticket.

Trump won't quit unless he is barred (good luck with that), and if multiple indictments have not soured his polls, convictions will not either. All crooks at heart are with him and they are numerous. Jail won't matter much. I don't see any force in the GOP about to pounce and stop this madness, and they are hurtling into the abyss of nominating Trump, with their eyes open. They think he'll manage.

Unless Biden goes the McConnell way, he'll stay in the race. Dems would be nuts to let someone else run, because contrary to what you probably think, America was not a swamp before Trump arrived, and after his glorious presidency, America didn't turn into a hellscape forthwith. Biden has a few accomplishments he can run on. Biden is facing a man he beat once already, only that now the loser carries several hefty albatrosses: one unfinished wall, two impeachments and four indictments in his record. Another factor is the increasing number of Americans viewing the nomination of a serial felon and traitor for president as the ultimate act of defecation on the Presidency itself. The GOP promotion of such an affront will be noted and shall result in fewer votes. Sow, reap.

There is no indication that what you insinuate is likely to happen. If Trump gets knocked out of the race, it is even less clear that Ron would surge ahead. Trump looks a sure thing. Biden looks a sure thing. Today, at the end of August 23.

Underestimate not. How many times did Trump seem doomed in the past? Trump is EXCELLENT at promoting himself, GENIUS at weaseling out of trouble, and a LUCKY bastard all around despite a knack for self-sabotage. Give credit.

But he won't win. Trump can't afford to lose any voters and his resurrection of the Big Lie as campaign theme will backfire and he'll lose voters sick of hearing the same rubbish. Indictment and convictions will shave off a few more votes he would have kept otherwise. He may well get crushed in 2024.... and in the antics that would follow, either our heads or Trump's will explode. It's best to bar the man from running now and save American more pain with no gain.

Funny thing the Big Lie. They can't stop pushing it now, Trump, Giuliani, etc., and they'll take it to the grave, and even periodically they'll claim to have conclusive evidence of election fraud at hand. The kind you sit on for several years. We know they lied; they know that we know, and we know that they know that we know. That's messed up.

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I'll watch Roman de Gare. Thanks.

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This Indian guy running for president, whatchamacallit?

He counts on surviving Trump some time soon, due to Trump's criminal self-destruction or death... and the guy is ready to get the baton passed, heir apparent, Ferrari-red tie and all.

He shows he can function just like Trump, shooting from the hip like Buffalo Bill. I don't like him.

He crossed the line between 'smart' and 'smartass' a long time ago.

He wants to give Ukraine to the Russians but hasn't spoken about given pieces of India to China. A two-tiered set of moral standards. What standards?

You get characters like him in presidential runs - now you see them, now you don't.

No viva Vivek.

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On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 17:13:14 -0700 (PDT), "D. Spencer Hines"
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>It's simply delightful to see that "Tiglath" is still dishing out the same grossly-misinformed, emotional and profane political merde he is so good at.
>
>He's even posting Death Threats again...
>
>Sad...
>
>Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, the Yaleman in the race, is still the one to watch.
>
>D. Spencer Hines
>Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Q: What can one say about the USA preaching Democracy and Free Will?
A: Physician heal thyself!

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 by: Tiglath - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 03:01 UTC

What do you do and say when your party loses its mind?

According to Mr. Hines: nothing. Agree?

He loves political theater only when it doesn't expose the GOP to massive gobs of ridicule. Fair?

Maybe his sound mind must be on other concerns, something may be afoul with the White House tennis courts... or shrubbery? Is that it?

Mr. Hines lends his sincere opinion so rarely that it takes on the value of precious minerals. He plays dead exceedingly well; given, granted, kudos, well done. But I still prefer a little prose... concise, terse, brief, clipped, blunt and gruff... to silence, golden as it might be.

I need to criticize Biden again and gab about war. Something Mr. Hines may like... take it as an olive branch if you will. I keep a little one, dried up, from the Acropolis: it exudes peace. May it reach you.

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Speed kills But At The Pentagon It Merely Astonishes.
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I complained before about how Biden's commander in chief tenure is afflicted by the one-dollar-short-and-a-day-late disease - only that now it has aggravated to billions-short-and-years-late.

Speed and the lack of it, in war. Examples to follow and avoid abound...

Take Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon in January 49 BC. He deployed a single legion, his veteran Legio XIII, with such speed that Pompey scooted to the heel of Italy without a fight and from there to Greece, taking with him the consuls and most of the Senate. Plans to defend Italy were undone by the speed with which Caesar moved, advancing directly on Rome with minimal resistance. Most remarkably, Pompey remained in Greece even when Gaius vacated Italy for months to subdue Pompeian forces in Hispania and cover his rear, returning to Italy in December 49 BC.

Being were your enemy doesn’t expect you to be in a time frame they couldn’t possibly imagine completely ruins the moral of your enemy.. So there is much to say about rapid deployment, whenever possible. That alone seems to have sufficed at times…

At Marathon, 490 BC, the Athenians fought a hard infantry battle, repulsed the Persian navy, keeping seven of their ships, and then marched 27 vertiginous miles back to Athens, so that when Median Admiral Datis got to the Piraeus, went.... “WTF…, what's that?” And a slave replied, "More Hellene scum, sire." In fact, they were the same Hellenes... Though the Athenians were standing armed, they were probably about to fall asleep. Deploying alone did the trick, if I remember correctly.

So yes, Biden's Pentagon, surely knows, but has been made to ignore, the value of SPEED and timeliness in military campaigns. Hence the pitiful state of the Ukrainian counteroffensive... while thousands of tanks and fighters sit in the sun, unused, in our fields and hangars.

Now, the other side is far from blameless... Russia has AGAIN badly underestimated the potential of an enemy.
The last Czar started a 'small victorious war' with Japan to distract from internal problems. It sounded much like a 'special military operation.' It turned out to be neither small nor victorious, and Russia achieved the feat of not winning a single major action against Japan. Putin's record is slightly better, but it seems to follow the same arc... with corruption impeding military efficiency and supply. Apparently, the Czar’s fleet was so corrupt under a royal, that the latest warship almost sank because instead of metal rivets, which were stolen, they used tallow candles. Because there are no Serpicos in Russia, the rot of corruption impairs every link of the supply chain, a problem that can be compensated for only in part with more troops. Russia is wont to start this sort of small wars and they often bring sudden change. Japanese victory worsened Russian revolutionary tendencies and things ended up for Nicholas worse than Afghanistan did for Andropov. Looking at history, Putin must be really worried about losing this war.

Now, if you combine both lack of speed (US) and underestimating the enemy (Russia), history has again more examples.... One is the first British invasion of Zululand. The Brits felt contempt for the Zulu ‘brutes’ and the technically superior force paid concern only to their logistics train, failed to fortify their camp and split into separate slow-moving columns. In contrast, the Zulu army marched 50 miles in five days, and just like the Athenians, after the march came the battle with an enemy astonished by the speed with which defenders materialized all around them, prior to abject defeat. Zulu destroyed the British camp, killed hundreds of red-jackets, and forced the surviving rest of the British to flee Zululand, though in the end, the Brits succeeded in subsequent expeditions against black massed spearmen.

Just saying, but… I wish I could carbon copy the Pentagon…

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 by: soc.history.medieval - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 05:55 UTC

It's totally hilarious... seeing the GOP vigorously behind gun control - would you be believe?

Believe your eyes. Hunter Biden's gun peccadilloes poses a big dilemmas for big leg Emmas (Ronna, Stefanik).

No Second Amendment for Hunter. Nope.

Poor Republicans, they burst at the seems yearning for the real dope, real high crimes and misdemeanors. But none in sight. They want fentanyl but have to chomp on methadone to fuel their impeachment wet dreams.
WMD all over again...

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 by: Tiglath - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 02:59 UTC

Rep. Jordan is doing his incompetent shirtsleeves best to be Trump's lawyer from his congressional perch, from where he parrots what Trump tells him to say, literally.

"The fix is in."

That's psychobabble from the one-trick pony cult leader, who pronounces everything rigged against him when he fucks up royally in his criminal enterprises.

Biden is obviously weaponizing the DOJ against his own son. It couldn't be clearer, right?

Little goes Little Jordan's way these days.... Hilarious, really.

Trump is begging for a little dictatorship... it's heartbreaking... But Jordan can't quite manage to deliver the goods, and saves face with the maga base by embarrassing himself in the Judiciary Committee with flaccid attempts at dictator creation.

How impotent it must feel. To give orders without consequence... On the other hand Little Vlad, can doom pretty much anyone on earth and set assassins after. That's power. Lasting power. Vlad is a REAL dictator.

When Trump looks down at Pootin, he is in fact looking up to him. As it should be in Trumpian logic.

Trump would be most happy with much less than what Pootin enjoys: just the best ever American-style dictatorship to soothe his winter years. Long enough to punish his enemies, grift, graft, and grift graft some more, and they retire with his own TV show on how he made America pay again. A modest dictator, relatively. Smaller body count next to Pootin. That's all he wants, folks. And he is ready to make a deal. He can be a wee bit more pro-choice or pro-union, if it need be... anything really... Just fucking put him in the White House, will ya?

An impotent dictator wannabe and Jordan, a fire-and-brimstone prosecutor sans evidence. Zilch.

Abbot and Costello, without the funny parts.

The Dignified Republican is quite a site to behold... dripping so much egg..

Trump's lawyers resort to acupuncture, they say, to stop themselves from committing seppuku and then hara-kiri.

Political history will look at the Trump years as the time when a bomb dropped on the parade of the Grand Old Party. A Stink Bomb.

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 by: Tiglath - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:03 UTC

I can't believe that the GOP 2023 just held an impeachment hearing....

It's a short story. Their star witness said: "This won't fly."

Oops!

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin... tut, tut...

How much more long suffering Republicans can take of this?

Wait... it will get much worse; they are STILL hurtling towards nominating Trump, after they shutdown the government, first....

A winning formula, right?

Yep, a guy out on bail for candidate, charged with 91 felonies, who has just been put out of business, pretty much, because of decades of fraud... Which sounds mellow next to a RICO indictment, but it will hit where it hurts.

And as I said, there is still plenty of time for Trump to pulverize more Trumpian toes, as he is wont to.

His supporters in Congress are terribly slow realizing that those who hang with Trump, hang with Trump.

Trump-instigated 'Impeachment' is not going well. Congressional interference (Jordan) in Trump's criminal cases is as ineffective as Trump's delay tactics, and reassuringly so. All there is to see is a bunch of magatites making fools of themselves in a hurry. Rep. Comer's face when being told he has no case, was one of the best moments.

What a joy to watch.

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