When setting up my fusion its asking for the transponder/aircraft 24-bit ICAO address. Do I enter the Mode S Hex or Mode S Oct number I get from the FAA registration? I think I entered the Hex number in my Trig TT22 during setup. I did manage to find a long binary 24-bit address (bunch of 1 and 0s) for my transponder/ship, do I enter that?

thanks!

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:38:16 AM UTC-8, soaringjac wrote:
> When setting up my fusion its asking for the transponder/aircraft 24-bit ICAO address. Do I enter the Mode S Hex or Mode S Oct number I get from the FAA registration? I think I entered the Hex number in my Trig TT22 during setup. I did manage to find a long binary 24-bit address (bunch of 1 and 0s) for my transponder/ship, do I enter that?
>
> thanks!
Mode S Code (Base 16 / Hex)

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:45:14 AM UTC-8, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:38:16 AM UTC-8, soaringjac wrote:
> > When setting up my fusion its asking for the transponder/aircraft 24-bit ICAO address. Do I enter the Mode S Hex or Mode S Oct number I get from the FAA registration? I think I entered the Hex number in my Trig TT22 during setup. I did manage to find a long binary 24-bit address (bunch of 1 and 0s) for my transponder/ship, do I enter that?
> >
> > thanks!
> Mode S Code (Base 16 / Hex)
>
>
> Richard
> www.craggyaero.com
Thanks!

Why would the directions ask for the 24-bit address and then accept the
Hex code?

Dan
5J

On 3/11/22 08:45, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:38:16 AM UTC-8, soaringjac wrote:
>> When setting up my fusion its asking for the transponder/aircraft 24-bit ICAO address. Do I enter the Mode S Hex or Mode S Oct number I get from the FAA registration? I think I entered the Hex number in my Trig TT22 during setup. I did manage to find a long binary 24-bit address (bunch of 1 and 0s) for my transponder/ship, do I enter that?
>>
>> thanks!
> Mode S Code (Base 16 / Hex)
>
>
> Richard
> www.craggyaero.com

On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:45:39 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

> Why would the directions ask for the 24-bit address and then accept the
> Hex code?
>
Its a lot easier to write and remember a number written as 6 hex digits
than as an 8 digit number or 24 bits.

I just don't understand why the instructions would even mention the
24-bit code if the device accepts the Hex. I remember my Hex code years
after setting up my ADS-B.

Dan
5J

On 3/11/22 12:20, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:45:39 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:
>
>> Why would the directions ask for the 24-bit address and then accept the
>> Hex code?
>>
> Its a lot easier to write and remember a number written as 6 hex digits
> than as an 8 digit number or 24 bits.
>
>

On 3/11/2022 5:33 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I just don't understand why the instructions would even mention the
> 24-bit code if the device accepts the Hex.

Dan - ICAO ID is a 24-bit code, which can be represented in several
ways. FLARM uses hexidecimal, ie base 16, as most common in modern
computing. Much older systems used octal. Binary is too verbose.
We'll skip the other number systems possible ;-)

Binary is too verbose.

There are only 10 types of people. Those who understand Binary, and those who don't.

Thanks Dave. Got my engineering degree 50 years ago.

I just checked the FAA Aircraft Registry and found my ICAO code in both
hex and octal. Didn't see binary anywhere. I'm guessing that the
original poster does not know how to convert between the three systems.
I do and I'll bet you do, too.

My question was WHY would they say to use the binary code when it's not
readily available to the user without doing the conversion AND the
device accepts hex or octal? My answer to that is that the device
manufacturer doesn't know how to write an installation manual.

Dan
5J

On 3/12/22 05:18, Dave Nadler wrote:
> On 3/11/2022 5:33 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> I just don't understand why the instructions would even mention the
>> 24-bit code if the device accepts the Hex.
>
> Dan - ICAO ID is a 24-bit code, which can be represented in several
> ways. FLARM uses hexidecimal, ie base 16, as most common in modern
> computing. Much older systems used octal. Binary is too verbose.
> We'll skip the other number systems possible ;-)
>

Yes, Mark, and if counting had been invented by men instead of by women
they we'd all be using the base 11 system.

Flame suit on.

Dan
5J

On 3/12/22 06:11, Mark Mocho wrote:
> Binary is too verbose.
>
> There are only 10 types of people. Those who understand Binary, and those who don't.
>

On 3/12/2022 11:15 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> My question was WHY would they say to use the binary code when it's not
> readily available to the user without doing the conversion AND the
> device accepts hex or octal?

As in the manual, the ICAO code is 24 bits long.
That's 6 hex digits, or 8 octal digits.
Why is that confusing?

Well, it seems the OP was uncertain about 24-bit data. I'm not
confused, I know the numbering systems. I thought it was stupid for the
manufacturer to discuss 24-bit data when what you get from the FAA is
either hex or octal. I was calling out the manufacturer for shitty
documentation.

Clear now?

Dan
5J

On 3/12/22 12:18, Dave Nadler wrote:
> On 3/12/2022 11:15 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> My question was WHY would they say to use the binary code when it's
>> not readily available to the user without doing the conversion AND the
>> device accepts hex or octal?
>
> As in the manual, the ICAO code is 24 bits long.
> That's 6 hex digits, or 8 octal digits.
> Why is that confusing?