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* Glider handicaps2G
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Subject: Glider handicaps
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In preparation for our annual Parowan ASA meet I was trying to find a current list of glider handicaps used for the OLC scoring. I came up with this:
https://www.fai.org/page/igc-handicaps
but the only handicaps I could find were for the Club class.

Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of handicaps?

Tom

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Subject: Re: Glider handicaps
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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:26:18 AM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> In preparation for our annual Parowan ASA meet I was trying to find a current list of glider handicaps used for the OLC scoring. I came up with this:
> https://www.fai.org/page/igc-handicaps
> but the only handicaps I could find were for the Club class.
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of handicaps?
>
> Tom
https://www.ssa.org/racing-rules-information/
under current sailplane handicaps tab

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Subject: Re: Glider handicaps
From: dan_the_...@hotmail.com (Dan Daly)
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 by: Dan Daly - Mon, 9 May 2022 21:05 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-4, bcf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:26:18 AM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> > In preparation for our annual Parowan ASA meet I was trying to find a current list of glider handicaps used for the OLC scoring. I came up with this:
> > https://www.fai.org/page/igc-handicaps
> > but the only handicaps I could find were for the Club class.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of handicaps?
> >
> > Tom
> https://www.ssa.org/racing-rules-information/
> under current sailplane handicaps tab
If you're looking for the OLC handicaps, see https://www.daec.de/fileadmin/user_upload/files/2021/Sportarten/Segelflug/DMSt_Indexliste_2022.pdf

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Subject: Re: Glider handicaps
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 by: 2G - Tue, 10 May 2022 00:27 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 2:05:57 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-4, bcf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:26:18 AM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> > > In preparation for our annual Parowan ASA meet I was trying to find a current list of glider handicaps used for the OLC scoring. I came up with this:
> > > https://www.fai.org/page/igc-handicaps
> > > but the only handicaps I could find were for the Club class.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of handicaps?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > https://www.ssa.org/racing-rules-information/
> > under current sailplane handicaps tab
> If you're looking for the OLC handicaps, see https://www.daec.de/fileadmin/user_upload/files/2021/Sportarten/Segelflug/DMSt_Indexliste_2022.pdf

Thanks for the responses, but unfortunately neither of these references are even close to the handicaps used by OLC. For example, the SSA has the ASH 31Mi/21 handicap at 0.805 while OLC uses 0.826, a 2.7% difference (I calculated the OLC handicap used by comparing the posted points to the distance and triangle distances).

Tom

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Subject: Re: Glider handicaps
From: bcfa...@hotmail.com (Bob Faris)
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 by: Bob Faris - Tue, 10 May 2022 01:57 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 6:27:17 PM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 2:05:57 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-4, bcf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:26:18 AM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> > > > In preparation for our annual Parowan ASA meet I was trying to find a current list of glider handicaps used for the OLC scoring. I came up with this:
> > > > https://www.fai.org/page/igc-handicaps
> > > > but the only handicaps I could find were for the Club class.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of handicaps?
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > https://www.ssa.org/racing-rules-information/
> > > under current sailplane handicaps tab
> > If you're looking for the OLC handicaps, see https://www.daec.de/fileadmin/user_upload/files/2021/Sportarten/Segelflug/DMSt_Indexliste_2022.pdf
> Thanks for the responses, but unfortunately neither of these references are even close to the handicaps used by OLC. For example, the SSA has the ASH 31Mi/21 handicap at 0.805 while OLC uses 0.826, a 2.7% difference (I calculated the OLC handicap used by comparing the posted points to the distance and triangle distances).
>
> Tom
The USA handicaps are inverse of the OLC handicaps and used for contest and record scoring in the USA. The OLC handicaps are already incorporated in the scoring program for the various OLC contests. Here are the list of the current OLC handicaps:
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3.0/segelflugszene/cms.html?url=rules_overview/handicaps
Bob

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