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computers / comp.mobile.android / Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switch for 2G, Urges People to Ask Apple to Do the Same for iOS

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* Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switchsms
`* Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switch for 2G, Anssi Saari
 +- Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switch for 2G, Andy Burnelli
 `* Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding KillJoerg Lorenz
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Subject: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switch
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 by: sms - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 00:57 UTC

<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/01/victory-google-releases-disable-2g-feature-new-android-smartphones>

Disabling 2G is a security feature available on newer Android phones. In
the U.S., T-Mobile is the only major carrier still running a 2G network
at least for the short-term. You'd rarely need to use 2G so disabling it
is not a problem, and E911 service on 2G is not disabled. 2G is now
primarily used for IOT devices with old modems.

The article urges readers to Tweet Apple and ask them to do the same
thing on iPhone.

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Subject: Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switch for 2G, Urges People to Ask Apple to Do the Same for iOS
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 by: Anssi Saari - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 14:16 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> writes:

> <https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/01/victory-google-releases-disable-2g-feature-new-android-smartphones>
>
> Disabling 2G is a security feature available on newer Android
> phones.

Um, Pixels only? Although I did find a mention that some Samsung models
have this but the only option without 2G in my S21 phone is "3G only". I
think I'll skip that one.

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Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill Switch for 2G, Urges People to Ask Apple to Do the Same for iOS
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 02:43 UTC

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:16:14 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:

>> Disabling 2G is a security feature available on newer Android
>> phones.
>
> Um, Pixels only? Although I did find a mention that some Samsung models
> have this but the only option without 2G in my S21 phone is "3G only". I
> think I'll skip that one.

Take a look at these two screenshots...
<https://i.postimg.cc/FFByv7Ps/bands01.jpg> Hidden Network-Mode Activity
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZKnwPGQ0/bands02.jpg> Hidden Band-Selection Activity

I have a 5G phone essentially by accident where the battery is so huge and
where my data is unlimited (also by accident) that I keep the cellular data
on all the time lately (as there is no downside anymore to cellular data).
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf9w1tGZ/speedtest07.jpg> *255Mbps*

With that in mind, I get "whatever G" I get at whatever time I get it.
I don't even _know_ which "whatever G" I'm getting at any given time.

Serious question...
*Why does it even matter which "G" I'm using at any given time point?*

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Subject: Re: Electronic Frontier Foundation Celebrates Google Adding Kill
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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 10:46 UTC

Am 19.01.22 um 15:16 schrieb Anssi Saari:
> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> writes:
>
>> <https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/01/victory-google-releases-disable-2g-feature-new-android-smartphones>
>>
>> Disabling 2G is a security feature available on newer Android
>> phones.
>
> Um, Pixels only? Although I did find a mention that some Samsung models
> have this but the only option without 2G in my S21 phone is "3G only". I
> think I'll skip that one.

If you try to avoid it won't work. 3G is the fallback if 4G (LTE) is not
available. So is 2G for 3G where available. My Pixel 4 with Android 12
does not have the switch.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sat, 22 Jan 2022 18:42 UTC

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:46:22 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> If you try to avoid it won't work. 3G is the fallback if 4G (LTE) is not
> available. So is 2G for 3G where available. My Pixel 4 with Android 12
> does not have the switch.

Given any "G" is available to our phones, why does it even matter to us
which "G" any one of us is currently consuming at any given time point?

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