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* Re: Blanik L-13Walter Wissmann
`* Re: Blanik L-13Frank Whiteley
 `* Re: Blanik L-13Walter Wissmann
  `- Re: Blanik L-13. Frank In the meantime I found the Ad's in questionWalter Wissmann

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Subject: Re: Blanik L-13
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 by: Walter Wissmann - Sun, 1 Aug 2021 03:28 UTC

Hey Frank , I just got a Blank L13 it states in the logbook it got factory new wings in 1997 . I wonder when they started building the improved wings you mentioned . If you ever read this please reply to my e mail uklausing @northwestel.net .
Thanks

Uli

On Saturday, 6 May 2017 at 07:45:49 UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 1:35:23 AM UTC-6, ifee...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > The latest update on the Blanik America site is October 2016 but it seems hopeful:
> >
> > http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/news.htm
> >
> > I live in Canada where the AD&C modification is already approved but the expense of the work coupled with the 5000 hour airframe limit seems to have resulted in few L-13's being made airworthy again. A really nice, very low time L-13 might be an economically viable project though. Personally if I had the time and money to do it I probably would, just as a labor of love.. I have a special place in my heart for the L-13, sorely miss flying them and it was a sad day when my club sold our last one. The L-23 we still have is a fine glider but it just doesn't have the same appeal for me.
> http://www.aircraftdc.de/images/produkte/blanik/ADxC%20Customerinfo%20Blanik%2002-Mar-12.pdf describes the increase to 5000hr life over the original 3750hr. It also appears to remove the 35% dual limit (which also exists for the L-23). So, amortizing the cost over the remaining life may make economic sense for L-13 with 2000hrs TTAF or less. Whether it makes financial sense is another question based on the user. The repair may be become much less attractive for those approaching 3000hrs TTAF. I've seen L-13's with three N-number shadows on the component parts, so I suspect there may be basic airframes with 2000hrs, but sporting a 4000hr wing. When first grounded I collected information on the L-13's in the US. There were about 190 on the FAA registry and possibly 90-100 that were being actively flown. At least a couple of sites had several hulks for spares, so there were several "composite" airframes out there. I'm not aware of any L-13A1's that may have been imported into the US. Those were the L-13's that LET had already modifed/replaced the root sections and extended the life to 5000hrs. Those were returned to service by EASA without the AD&C modification. I don't think the FAA considered this, but again, there may not be any in the US, so it would be moot. Unfortunately those couldn't be identified by serial number, but only buy inspecting the differential rivet pattern associated with the modification. I recall the RAFGSA did not pursue this as their L-13 fleet aged.
>
> Frank Whiteley

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Subject: Re: Blanik L-13
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 by: Frank Whiteley - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 05:46 UTC

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 9:28:12 PM UTC-6, Walter Wissmann wrote:
> Hey Frank , I just got a Blank L13 it states in the logbook it got factory new wings in 1997 . I wonder when they started building the improved wings you mentioned . If you ever read this please reply to my e mail uklausing @northwestel.net .
> Thanks
>
> Uli

No idea, hasn't been much since the AMOC was approved.

Don't know if your L-13 was redesignated as an L-13A1 as a result of the new wings.

http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?p=763842

Looks like GFA allowed L13A1 compliance. Not sure about EASA.

https://sites.google.com/site/blanikspar/home#L13A1

Maybe contact Vitek or the factory.

Frank

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Subject: Re: Blanik L-13
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 by: Walter Wissmann - Tue, 7 Sep 2021 04:56 UTC

On Sunday, 1 August 2021 at 22:47:01 UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 9:28:12 PM UTC-6, Walter Wissmann wrote:
> > Hey Frank , I just got a Blank L13 it states in the logbook it got factory new wings in 1997 . I wonder when they started building the improved wings you mentioned . If you ever read this please reply to my e mail uklausing @northwestel.net .
> > Thanks
> >
> > Uli
> No idea, hasn't been much since the AMOC was approved.
>
> Don't know if your L-13 was redesignated as an L-13A1 as a result of the new wings.
>
> http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?p=763842
>
> Looks like GFA allowed L13A1 compliance. Not sure about EASA.
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/blanikspar/home#L13A1
>
> Maybe contact Vitek or the factory.
>
> Frank
Thank you Frank , I will call Vitek about that topic I had a long conversation with him in last winter about my L23 .

Re: Blanik L-13. Frank In the meantime I found the Ad's in question EASA AD No.: 2011-0135R2 states under (2)

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Subject: Re: Blanik L-13. Frank In the meantime I found the Ad's in question
EASA AD No.: 2011-0135R2 states under (2)
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 by: Walter Wissmann - Wed, 18 May 2022 06:35 UTC

On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 21:56:50 UTC-7, Walter Wissmann wrote:
> On Sunday, 1 August 2021 at 22:47:01 UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 9:28:12 PM UTC-6, Walter Wissmann wrote:
> > > Hey Frank , I just got a Blank L13 it states in the logbook it got factory new wings in 1997 . I wonder when they started building the improved wings you mentioned . If you ever read this please reply to my e mail uklausing @northwestel.net .
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Uli
> > No idea, hasn't been much since the AMOC was approved.
> >
> > Don't know if your L-13 was redesignated as an L-13A1 as a result of the new wings.
> >
> > http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?p=763842
> >
> > Looks like GFA allowed L13A1 compliance. Not sure about EASA.
> >
> > https://sites.google.com/site/blanikspar/home#L13A1
> >
> > Maybe contact Vitek or the factory.
> >
> > Frank
> Thank you Frank , I will call Vitek about that topic I had a long conversation with him in last winter about my L23 .

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