Dan <dannewsgroups@outlookspamxxx.com> wrote:
> Long term updates is what I am after.

Would a Pixel be an option? Particularly the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro.
Guaranteed security updates out to October 2026:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en-GB

Theo

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Dan <dannewsgroups@outlookspamxxx.com> wrote:
> > Long term updates is what I am after.
>
> Would a Pixel be an option? Particularly the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro.
> Guaranteed security updates out to October 2026:
> https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en-GB

Also the Fairphone 4:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/fairphone-4-has-an-incredible-5-year-warranty-aims-for-6-years-of-updates/
although it uses Qualcomm silicon which goes out of support after 2025,
so the rest is on a best-effort basis.

Theo

Am 06.02.22 um 17:24 schrieb Theo:
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> Dan <dannewsgroups@outlookspamxxx.com> wrote:
>>> Long term updates is what I am after.
>>
>> Would a Pixel be an option? Particularly the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro.
>> Guaranteed security updates out to October 2026:
>> https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en-GB
>
> Also the Fairphone 4:
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/fairphone-4-has-an-incredible-5-year-warranty-aims-for-6-years-of-updates/
> although it uses Qualcomm silicon which goes out of support after 2025,
> so the rest is on a best-effort basis.

That is still ridiculously bad compared to iOS.
The current iOS 15 is still running on an iPhone 6s which was brought to
market in 2015.

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Am 06.02.22 um 21:01 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> That is still ridiculously bad compared to iOS.
> The current iOS 15 is still running on an iPhone 6s which was brought to
> market in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_15

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Dan <dannewsgroups@outlookspamxxx.com> wrote:
> It looks good. But I wonder. Any NHS scheme?
> Because I work for the NHS.

If you mean a discount for buying from Google, I doubt it. However it seems
to be available on all the major UK networks, so if the NHS gets you any
discount at O2/Vodafone/EE/Three then they will sell you a Pixel 6. Perhaps
likewise if you mean as a work phone and your work sources phones from those
networks (and doesn't impose other restrictions).

Theo

On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 21:01:42 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> That is still ridiculously bad compared to iOS.
> The current iOS 15 is still running on an iPhone 6s which was brought to
> market in 2015.

As always, the iOS iKooks are ignorant of how all modern OS's update.

What these iKooks like Joerg don't understand, and never will, is that iOS
uses a _completely_ different monolithic update mechanism.

No other modern operating system uses the primitive update that iOS uses.
*The fact is that iOS is _already_ out of date even as it ships.*

On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 21:04:02 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_15

The problem with iOS is that it uses an outdated primitive update mechanism.
Luckily Android (and all modern operating systems) is _not_ monolithic.

a. If there's a bug in Chrome, they can fix it without a new OS release.
b. If there's a bug in Safari, they can't.

That means iOS will _always_ be out of date.
Worse...
a. Safari won't even work on an older iOS device.
b. Chrome will.

As always, the iOS iKooks are ignorant of how all modern OS's update.
All they know is the primitive monolithic iOS update clusterfuck.

Dan <dannewsgroups@outlookspamxxx.com> wrote:
> On 06 Feb 2022 21:24:07 +0000 (GMT), Theo
> <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Dan <dannewsgroups@outlookspamxxx.com> wrote:
> >> It looks good. But I wonder. Any NHS scheme?
> >> Because I work for the NHS.
> >
> >If you mean a discount for buying from Google, I doubt it. However it seems
> >to be available on all the major UK networks, so if the NHS gets you any
> >discount at O2/Vodafone/EE/Three then they will sell you a Pixel 6. Perhaps
> >likewise if you mean as a work phone and your work sources phones from those
> >networks (and doesn't impose other restrictions).
>
> This will be a unlocked sim free phone. I used to travel a lot. So I
> need a phone that is unlocked.

I don't think networks sell locked phones any more, but if you have an
existing locked phone unlocking is cheap and easy, and you don't have to be
a customer of theirs (eg it's fine if you buy a locked phone from ebay).
For EE it's £8.99 for example.

Networks will sell the Pixel 6 (Pro) on PAYG.

Theo