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* Flying in NW MontanaJohn Foster
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 by: John Foster - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 19:28 UTC

For those interested in trying out a new soaring location, I invite you to come fly out of Ronan, MT. We are in the Mission Valley, with the Mission Mountains immediately to our east. Ronan Airport is just short of 4,800' long at an elevation of 3,086'. Tows are available behind a Cessna 170 with a 180hp motor. For more information on tows and availability, call Monte Baer at Mission Aviation (406) 274-7818.

This area has a lot of untapped potential, I believe. If you fly Condor, there is a landscape available called Northwest Montana (NW Montana), which I recommend to get an introduction/orientation to the area.

I also have YouTube videos of my flights so far from this airport.
https://youtu.be/jJauZN0tH7s

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Subject: Re: Flying in NW Montana
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 by: R - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:16 UTC

Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
Thanks,

R

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Subject: Re: Flying in NW Montana
From: johngfos...@gmail.com (John Foster)
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 by: John Foster - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 00:36 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
> Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
> When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
> Thanks,
>
> R

No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.

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 by: 2G - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 19:48 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-7, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
> > Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
> > When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
> > Thanks,
> >
> > R
> No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.

The issue I see is that the ramp space is not huge, so you might be able to get a half dozen gliders tied down, depending upon how many tie downs are in use. At Parowan, UT the new and improved ramp redesign has cut the number we can tie down there (w/o resorting to the dirt) to 21. And gliders are mostly getting bigger, not smaller. There also is no crosswind runway, although there are a lot of landable fields close by.

Tom

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 by: John Foster - Sun, 3 Jul 2022 03:49 UTC

On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:48:59 PM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-7, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
> > > Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
> > > When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > R
> > No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.
> The issue I see is that the ramp space is not huge, so you might be able to get a half dozen gliders tied down, depending upon how many tie downs are in use. At Parowan, UT the new and improved ramp redesign has cut the number we can tie down there (w/o resorting to the dirt) to 21. And gliders are mostly getting bigger, not smaller. There also is no crosswind runway, although there are a lot of landable fields close by.
>
> Tom

Come visit sometime and see for yourself.

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You’re joking right? All we have in Twisp is dirt to tie down on. Oh wait you’re a motor-glider. pilot….
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 12:48:59 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-7, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
> > > Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
> > > When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > R
> > No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.
> The issue I see is that the ramp space is not huge, so you might be able to get a half dozen gliders tied down, depending upon how many tie downs are in use. At Parowan, UT the new and improved ramp redesign has cut the number we can tie down there (w/o resorting to the dirt) to 21. And gliders are mostly getting bigger, not smaller. There also is no crosswind runway, although there are a lot of landable fields close by.
>
> Tom

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Sun, 3 Jul 2022 21:37 UTC

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:38:46 AM UTC-4, kuzi...@gmail.com wrote:
> You’re joking right? All we have in Twisp is dirt to tie down on. Oh wait you’re a motor-glider. pilot….
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 12:48:59 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-7, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
> > > > When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > R
> > > No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.
> > The issue I see is that the ramp space is not huge, so you might be able to get a half dozen gliders tied down, depending upon how many tie downs are in use. At Parowan, UT the new and improved ramp redesign has cut the number we can tie down there (w/o resorting to the dirt) to 21. And gliders are mostly getting bigger, not smaller. There also is no crosswind runway, although there are a lot of landable fields close by.
> >
> > Tom
You must understand that Uncle Tom is a lost soul, don't pay ant attention to his BS. Old Bob, The Purist

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 00:09 UTC

On 7/3/2022 2:37 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:38:46 AM UTC-4, kuzi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> You’re joking right? All we have in Twisp is dirt to tie down on. Oh wait you’re a motor-glider. pilot….
>> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 12:48:59 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-7, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
>>>>> When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> R
>>>> No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.
>>> The issue I see is that the ramp space is not huge, so you might be able to get a half dozen gliders tied down, depending upon how many tie downs are in use. At Parowan, UT the new and improved ramp redesign has cut the number we can tie down there (w/o resorting to the dirt) to 21. And gliders are mostly getting bigger, not smaller. There also is no crosswind runway, although there are a lot of landable fields close by.
>>>
>>> Tom
> You must understand that Uncle Tom is a lost soul, don't pay ant attention to his BS. Old Bob, The Purist

A better explanation: Tom flies a motorglider that does not require a towplane; at 21M
it's big and heavy, most easily operated on pavement with lots of space; and good
tiedowns, since rigging/derigging is lengthy and tedious.

It is a nice area to fly, though I've done so only from St. Ignatius airport, about 20
miles to the south.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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 by: AWhitesell - Wed, 6 Jul 2022 19:56 UTC

John,
Could you send me contact info?
I'll be heading up to Polson in a week.
Al
mtn 'dot' aire at yahoo

On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 9:49:44 PM UTC-6, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:48:59 PM UTC-6, 2G wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-7, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the information.Are you the Foster from Utah?
> > > > When would be the ideal Soaring time of the year?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > R
> > > No, I'm not from Utah. Now is turning out to be pretty decent soaring, but I've only had two flights here so far, so am just getting to know the area myself. Late spring/early summer I believe would be the best time here (now). After July 4 we often get wildfire smoke, and a high pressure system that makes the air undesirably stable. But the early fall/September should be good as well. It doesn't seem to be the "booming" conditions typical of the western US, but the scenery is amazing. It is certainly soarable country though.
> > The issue I see is that the ramp space is not huge, so you might be able to get a half dozen gliders tied down, depending upon how many tie downs are in use. At Parowan, UT the new and improved ramp redesign has cut the number we can tie down there (w/o resorting to the dirt) to 21. And gliders are mostly getting bigger, not smaller. There also is no crosswind runway, although there are a lot of landable fields close by.
> >
> > Tom
> Come visit sometime and see for yourself.

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