After 2 1/2 years and 600hrs in "Hotel 8" (DG-300), I'm going to the MG dark side and acquiring a ASH-31Mi. In addition to a hundred other things I need in order to get my act together, I have to come up with a new glider ID.. My DG's ID is under the clear coat and staying local so that's out (H8 kind of grew on me, I'll miss it). And, the -31's ID stays with the current owner.

So, my friends call me JJ and I'd be happy to put that on the tail but "Juliet Juliet" has 2 problems:
- Not very manly and 6 syllables seems like a lot after just 3 for H8.
- Bigger issue: A friend I fly with regularly has a beautiful Arcus with RR on the tail.

I cringe thinking about the Romeo Romeo/Juliet Juliet radio dynamic. I could try to insist on being called with 'JJ' instead of the phonetic, but I think my buddies would have too much fun with this. Aside from his Arcus catching on fire, I'm really struggling on how to deal with this dilemma.

JJ

On 7/18/2022 2:07 PM, John Johnson wrote:
> After 2 1/2 years and 600hrs in "Hotel 8" (DG-300), I'm going to the MG dark side and acquiring a ASH-31Mi. In addition to a hundred other things I need in order to get my act together, I have to come up with a new glider ID. My DG's ID is under the clear coat and staying local so that's out (H8 kind of grew on me, I'll miss it). And, the -31's ID stays with the current owner.
>
> So, my friends call me JJ and I'd be happy to put that on the tail but "Juliet Juliet" has 2 problems:
> - Not very manly and 6 syllables seems like a lot after just 3 for H8.
> - Bigger issue: A friend I fly with regularly has a beautiful Arcus with RR on the tail.
>
> I cringe thinking about the Romeo Romeo/Juliet Juliet radio dynamic. I could try to insist on being called with 'JJ' instead of the phonetic, but I think my buddies would have too much fun with this. Aside from his Arcus catching on fire, I'm really struggling on how to deal with this dilemma.
>
> JJ
>
I had a K-6e with the n-number ending in RA or Romeo Alpha. There was
another K-6e at the field with N-number ending in 3J or 3 Juliet. We
called each other frequently and nobody even mentioned the connection of
Romeo and Juliet until I brought it up to the other pilot on the ground.
We never got any banter about it over the radio. This was over 20
years ago and both glider are both flying though RA is at a different
field now a couple of states away.

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I have been using IDs that relate to the ship and can stay with it, e.g. 82 for s/n 82, 826 for N826. Guess my ego is small.

How about ASH? Or your s/n if it's not 001-700?

Monday, July 18, 2022 at 5:17:56 PM UTC-4, JC wrote:
> On 7/18/2022 2:07 PM, John Johnson wrote:
> > After 2 1/2 years and 600hrs in "Hotel 8" (DG-300), I'm going to the MG dark side and acquiring a ASH-31Mi. In addition to a hundred other things I need in order to get my act together, I have to come up with a new glider ID. My DG's ID is under the clear coat and staying local so that's out (H8 kind of grew on me, I'll miss it). And, the -31's ID stays with the current owner.
> >
> > So, my friends call me JJ and I'd be happy to put that on the tail but "Juliet Juliet" has 2 problems:
> > - Not very manly and 6 syllables seems like a lot after just 3 for H8.
> > - Bigger issue: A friend I fly with regularly has a beautiful Arcus with RR on the tail.
> >
> > I cringe thinking about the Romeo Romeo/Juliet Juliet radio dynamic. I could try to insist on being called with 'JJ' instead of the phonetic, but I think my buddies would have too much fun with this. Aside from his Arcus catching on fire, I'm really struggling on how to deal with this dilemma.
> >
> > JJ
> >
> I had a K-6e with the n-number ending in RA or Romeo Alpha. There was
> another K-6e at the field with N-number ending in 3J or 3 Juliet. We
> called each other frequently and nobody even mentioned the connection of
> Romeo and Juliet until I brought it up to the other pilot on the ground.
> We never got any banter about it over the radio. This was over 20
> years ago and both glider are both flying though RA is at a different
> field now a couple of states away.
>
>
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I have

Just keep H8 for your new ship. Let the new owner of the old ship deal with the change.

He could put white tape over the center horizontal bar of the H and call the ship Indigo Indigo 8 or 118.

On 7/18/2022 3:07 PM, John Johnson wrote:
> After 2 1/2 years and 600hrs in "Hotel 8" (DG-300), I'm going to the MG dark side and acquiring a ASH-31Mi. In addition to a hundred other things I need in order to get my act together, I have to come up with a new glider ID. My DG's ID is under the clear coat and staying local so that's out (H8 kind of grew on me, I'll miss it). And, the -31's ID stays with the current owner.
>
> So, my friends call me JJ and I'd be happy to put that on the tail but "Juliet Juliet" has 2 problems:
> - Not very manly and 6 syllables seems like a lot after just 3 for H8.
> - Bigger issue: A friend I fly with regularly has a beautiful Arcus with RR on the tail.
>
> I cringe thinking about the Romeo Romeo/Juliet Juliet radio dynamic. I could try to insist on being called with 'JJ' instead of the phonetic, but I think my buddies would have too much fun with this. Aside from his Arcus catching on fire, I'm really struggling on how to deal with this dilemma.
>
> JJ
>

I don't know if it's the same "RR" we are referring to, but the RR
around here occasionally gets asked on the radio: "Romeo Romeo where art
thou?"

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:49:54 PM UTC-7, Moshe Braner wrote:
> I don't know if it's the same "RR" we are referring to, but the RR
> around here occasionally gets asked on the radio: "Romeo Romeo where art
> thou?"

This one (Arcus m) is at El Tiro and "... where art thou" is definitely happening here as well.

I really doubt "Romeo Romeo this is Juliet Juliet, what's your location?" would go without comment. It would be the gag gift that just keeps giving.

JJ

Use whatever ID you want. It only needs to be official if you fly in a
contest and then only if the official owner is registered, as well.
I've been using 5J since the mid 90s and only let lapse recently. Since
I don't fly contests, it makes no difference. I don't care if someone
else shows up at my airport sporting 5J on his glider.

Dan
5J

On 7/18/22 18:11, John Johnson wrote:
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:49:54 PM UTC-7, Moshe Braner wrote:
>> I don't know if it's the same "RR" we are referring to, but the RR
>> around here occasionally gets asked on the radio: "Romeo Romeo where art
>> thou?"
>
> This one (Arcus m) is at El Tiro and "... where art thou" is definitely happening here as well.
>
> I really doubt "Romeo Romeo this is Juliet Juliet, what's your location?" would go without comment. It would be the gag gift that just keeps giving.
>
> JJ
>

H9 appears available on the ssa allocation list.

As does H8

I'm coming around to Lima Papa - my wife's initials. She insisted and practically forced me to buy the -31 so I'm thinking a reminder of her with each radio call would be a nice thank you.

(... plus, when it comes time to pay the MG upkeep toll, it might soften the blow )

JJ

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 6:47:59 PM UTC-7, John Johnson wrote:
> I'm coming around to Lima Papa - my wife's initials. She insisted and practically forced me to buy the -31 so I'm thinking a reminder of her with each radio call would be a nice thank you.
>
> (... plus, when it comes time to pay the MG upkeep toll, it might soften the blow )
>
> JJ

Wives are BIG proponents of MGs, unlike some senile tow pilots.

Tom

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:38:46 AM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 6:47:59 PM UTC-7, John Johnson wrote:
> > I'm coming around to Lima Papa - my wife's initials. She insisted and practically forced me to buy the -31 so I'm thinking a reminder of her with each radio call would be a nice thank you.
> >
> > (... plus, when it comes time to pay the MG upkeep toll, it might soften the blow )
> >
> > JJ
> Wives are BIG proponents of MGs, unlike some senile tow pilots.
>
> Tom
Look Dickhead, I will call you Richard Noggin for short, Purist wives are much more in tune to the soaring world than you think. Purist wives can drive the retrieve vehicle, purist wives can fly better than you, this purist wife will out run you, out swim you out parachute you, in other words RN, she would kick your ass. OBTP

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 1:50:31 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:38:46 AM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 6:47:59 PM UTC-7, John Johnson wrote:
> > > I'm coming around to Lima Papa - my wife's initials. She insisted and practically forced me to buy the -31 so I'm thinking a reminder of her with each radio call would be a nice thank you.
> > >
> > > (... plus, when it comes time to pay the MG upkeep toll, it might soften the blow )
> > >
> > > JJ
> > Wives are BIG proponents of MGs, unlike some senile tow pilots.
> >
> > Tom
> Look Dickhead, I will call you Richard Noggin for short, Purist wives are much more in tune to the soaring world than you think. Purist wives can drive the retrieve vehicle, purist wives can fly better than you, this purist wife will out run you, out swim you out parachute you, in other words RN, she would kick your ass. OBTP

Temper, temper - you just haven't seen the smile on your wife's face once you get a motorglider. But, then again, you don't fly cross country so the issue doesn't arise.

Tom