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* Wings&Wheels access issuesDan Kvinge
+* Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesMark Mocho
|+- Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesTony
|+- Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesSteve Leonard
|`* Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesDan Marotta
| `* Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesDan Kvinge
|  `- Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesEric Greenwell
`* Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesSarah Anderson
 `* Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesGuy Acheson
  `* Re: Wings&Wheels access issuesstephen.s...@gmail.com
   `- Re: Wings&Wheels access issues2G

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Subject: Wings&Wheels access issues
From: dankvi...@gmail.com (Dan Kvinge)
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 by: Dan Kvinge - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 01:05 UTC

I'm having repeated problems accessing the W&W website due to general "Security Issues". I don't think I'm the only one. I'd like to use the classifieds but can not get them to work on either a MAC or PC. Sometimes I can log in, other times not, and when I do it moves very slow and some features are not working. Are others having problems too?

I called them and they said they have heard of the problem but "there is nothing wrong on their end".

Here is the message I get on my PC...
"wingsandwheels.com normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Chrome tried to connect to wingsandwheels.com this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be wingsandwheels.com, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Chrome stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.

You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS.. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."

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Subject: Re: Wings&Wheels access issues
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 by: Mark Mocho - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 01:26 UTC

> You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."

Clicked on W&W and it came right up with MS Edge. Maybe Chrome is getting stupid.

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Subject: Re: Wings&Wheels access issues
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 by: Tony - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 01:52 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 9:26:17 PM UTC-4, Mark Mocho wrote:
> > You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."
> Clicked on W&W and it came right up with MS Edge. Maybe Chrome is getting stupid.
Working fine with Firefox

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Subject: Re: Wings&Wheels access issues
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 by: Steve Leonard - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 03:09 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 8:26:17 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
> > You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."
> Clicked on W&W and it came right up with MS Edge. Maybe Chrome is getting stupid.

"...getting stupid", Mark? Oh, it has been there for a LONG time!

Fine on my PC using Chrome, but I get a warning that it is "unsafe" on my phone (Android), also through Chrome. Well, yes, it is "unsafe" for me to look at Wings and Wheels, as I am pretty likely to buy something when I do!

Steve Leonard

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 by: Sarah Anderson - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 12:38 UTC

Sounds like a cached SSL certificate issue. Odd it happens for multiple browsers/pcs for you, but not for me (or us, I see.)

Try clearing browser cache?

https://serverfault.com/questions/1013690/how-to-clear-remove-delete-certificate-ssl-https-cache-from-chrome-browser

On 8/2/22 8:05 PM, Dan Kvinge wrote:
> I'm having repeated problems accessing the W&W website due to general "Security Issues". I don't think I'm the only one. I'd like to use the classifieds but can not get them to work on either a MAC or PC. Sometimes I can log in, other times not, and when I do it moves very slow and some features are not working. Are others having problems too?
>
> I called them and they said they have heard of the problem but "there is nothing wrong on their end".
>
> Here is the message I get on my PC...
> "wingsandwheels.com normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Chrome tried to connect to wingsandwheels.com this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be wingsandwheels.com, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Chrome stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.
>
> You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."

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Windows, Google, Chrome.
No issues.

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On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 9:32:18 AM UTC-4, drguya...@gmail.com wrote:
> Windows, Google, Chrome.
> No issues.
Sometimes these issues can be related to your ISP. Your internet service provider may have somehow flagged that website restricting your access.

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 by: 2G - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 15:13 UTC

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 7:04:26 AM UTC-7, stephen.s...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 9:32:18 AM UTC-4, drguya...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Windows, Google, Chrome.
> > No issues.
> Sometimes these issues can be related to your ISP. Your internet service provider may have somehow flagged that website restricting your access.

This thread may be of help:
https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/10551759/net-err-cert-invalid-website-sent-scrambled-credentials-self-signed-certificate?hl=en

To clear the SSL state in Chrome on Windows, follow these steps:
Click the Google Chrome – Settings icon (Settings) icon, and then click Settings.
Click Show advanced settings.
Under Network, click Change proxy settings. ...
Click the Content tab.
Click “Clear SSL state”, and then click OK.
Restart Chrome.

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 by: Dan Marotta - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 15:56 UTC

Works with Brave.

Dan
5J

On 8/2/22 19:26, Mark Mocho wrote:
>> You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."
>
> Clicked on W&W and it came right up with MS Edge. Maybe Chrome is getting stupid.

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 by: Dan Kvinge - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:56 UTC

Thanks for all the suggestions! I tried them all, and no luck, but...when I agreed to trust this site (I was reluctant to do when my machine telling me to run away!), it went well enough to post a classified. The bummer is that now all my stored passwords have to be re-entered due to clearing the cache. But at least it's working and the rest of you aren't having problems so it probably/hopefully isn't some scary virus or trojan attacking my computers!
Dan

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:57:00 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Works with Brave.
>
> Dan
> 5J
> On 8/2/22 19:26, Mark Mocho wrote:
> >> You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."
> >
> > Clicked on W&W and it came right up with MS Edge. Maybe Chrome is getting stupid.

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 18:10 UTC

On 8/3/2022 10:56 AM, Dan Kvinge wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions! I tried them all, and no luck, but...when I agreed to trust this site (I was reluctant to do when my machine telling me to run away!), it went well enough to post a classified. The bummer is that now all my stored passwords have to be re-entered due to clearing the cache. But at least it's working and the rest of you aren't having problems so it probably/hopefully isn't some scary virus or trojan attacking my computers!
> Dan
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:57:00 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Works with Brave.
>>
>> Dan
>> 5J
>> On 8/2/22 19:26, Mark Mocho wrote:
>>>> You cannot visit wingsandwheels.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later."
>>>
>>> Clicked on W&W and it came right up with MS Edge. Maybe Chrome is getting stupid.

Generally, "clearing the cache" doesn't have to your passwords. Chrome, for example,
allows you to select "clearing the cache" separately from "passwords and other signed in
data". That's under the Advanced tab, not the Basic tab.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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