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* where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderLawrence Spinetta
`* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderGuy Acheson
 `* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderCharlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
  `* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderGuy Acheson
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    `* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderGuy Acheson
     `* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderHank Nixon
      `* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderDan Marotta
       `* Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderRoy B.
        `- Re: where to find sailplane aileron locks / holderMark Mocho

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Does anyone know where I can find plastic aileron locks / holders (i.e., to keep them in place) while I'm storing my glider in its trailer?Thank you.

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Have you not seen the very simple folded aluminum aileron locks that Cobra makes?
Simply a rectangle of 2mm thick aluminum folded in half and lined with fabric.
Mine have worked perfectly for 20 years.

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On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-4, drguya...@gmail.com wrote:
> Have you not seen the very simple folded aluminum aileron locks that Cobra makes?
> Simply a rectangle of 2mm thick aluminum folded in half and lined with fabric.
> Mine have worked perfectly for 20 years.
The hint is glue/contact cement the fabric or felt to the aluminum (1/8" Lexan also works) PRIOR to folding the lock to shape. A small radius instead of a sharp bend helps the trailing edge stay in shape.

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I would also advise against using any plastic for something that will be used for many years outdoors.
Plastic degrades just from time.
When you add heat and humidity it only becomes brittle or rubbery more quickly.

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On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 11:07:47 PM UTC-4, drguya...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would also advise against using any plastic for something that will be used for many years outdoors.
> Plastic degrades just from time.
> When you add heat and humidity it only becomes brittle or rubbery more quickly.
Agreed, but the original question relates to inside a trailer when not flying.

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I understand, but my comment on plastic degrading still stands.
I took some snowshoes off the wall where they hung for a couple years and all the rubber/plastic parts tore or snapped when trying to put on.
The elastic cords in a couple of my winter coats have lost all their elasticity after three years.
The soles of my wife's hiking boots just split and fell off while hiking a couple weeks ago, the boots were about five years old.
All of these items were stored indoors; no excessive heat, no direct sun.

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On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 10:00:22 AM UTC-4, drguya...@gmail.com wrote:
> I understand, but my comment on plastic degrading still stands.
> I took some snowshoes off the wall where they hung for a couple years and all the rubber/plastic parts tore or snapped when trying to put on.
> The elastic cords in a couple of my winter coats have lost all their elasticity after three years.
> The soles of my wife's hiking boots just split and fell off while hiking a couple weeks ago, the boots were about five years old.
> All of these items were stored indoors; no excessive heat, no direct sun.

Any experience with Lexan as Charlie suggested?
I would guess not.
UH

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 by: Dan Marotta - Mon, 24 Oct 2022 22:09 UTC

https://wingsandwheels.com/aileron-lock.html

Dan
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On 10/24/22 11:03, Hank Nixon wrote:
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 10:00:22 AM UTC-4, drguya...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I understand, but my comment on plastic degrading still stands.
>> I took some snowshoes off the wall where they hung for a couple years and all the rubber/plastic parts tore or snapped when trying to put on.
>> The elastic cords in a couple of my winter coats have lost all their elasticity after three years.
>> The soles of my wife's hiking boots just split and fell off while hiking a couple weeks ago, the boots were about five years old.
>> All of these items were stored indoors; no excessive heat, no direct sun.
>
> Any experience with Lexan as Charlie suggested?
> I would guess not.
> UH

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 by: Roy B. - Mon, 24 Oct 2022 23:26 UTC

Pool Noodles. That's right, the cheap, tube-type multicolor swimming pool toys. They are a tough foam tube with a hollow core. Take about 10" of one and slit it down one edge and it makes a pretty good trailer aileron lock that won't fall off of the trailing edge if the wing is vertical in the trailer. They are also useful for other types of trailer padding, too.
ROY

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On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 5:27:00 PM UTC-6, Roy B. wrote:
> Pool Noodles.

Also foam pipe insulation. (The kind without the adhesive.) Comes in a variety of color- Gray.

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