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* heavy and sluggish 2022 01Oleg Smirnov
+* Re: heavy and sluggish 2022 01Dean Markley
|`* Re: heavy and sluggish 2022 01 - View the world's economya425couple
| `* Re: heavy and sluggish 2022 01 - View the world's economyJim Wilkins
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+- heavy and sluggish 2022 01Oleg Smirnov
+* heavy and sluggish 2022 01Oleg Smirnov
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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:46 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/yyfmd9uc> thehill.com

Reports of Russia's decline ..

Tales of Russia's demise have circulated with remarkable consistency since
the fall of the Soviet Union .. In recent years, the more dire prophesies of
Russian collapse that circulated in the 1990s having gone unfulfilled ..

... Such characterizations are grossly misleading. Indeed, they couldn't be
more wrong. Russia is not the geopolitical basket-case it was in the
immediate post-Soviet era. Nor is it the bit player on the world stage it is
often portrayed as in the Western press. In fact, quite the opposite: Viewed
dispassionately and in the cold light of Realpolitik, Russia is
unambiguously a "great power" .. When it comes to possessing a substantial
and varied instrument of power, there can be little doubt that Russia meets
the "great power" standard .. The myth of Russian decline is precisely that
- a myth ..

....

The US establishment, its propaganda, have accustomed their herd of zombies
('the voters') to believe that Russia is 'broken' and 'weak', - so now they
will have to face some face saving issues.

And by the way, the statement of American decline is precisely - not a myth.
Then, moreover, the China rise.
Getting out of delusion will be painful.

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 by: Dean Markley - Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:27 UTC

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:50:04 PM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yyfmd9uc> thehill.com
>
> Reports of Russia's decline ..
>
> Tales of Russia's demise have circulated with remarkable consistency since
> the fall of the Soviet Union .. In recent years, the more dire prophesies of
> Russian collapse that circulated in the 1990s having gone unfulfilled ..
>
> .. Such characterizations are grossly misleading. Indeed, they couldn't be
> more wrong. Russia is not the geopolitical basket-case it was in the
> immediate post-Soviet era. Nor is it the bit player on the world stage it is
> often portrayed as in the Western press. In fact, quite the opposite: Viewed
> dispassionately and in the cold light of Realpolitik, Russia is
> unambiguously a "great power" .. When it comes to possessing a substantial
> and varied instrument of power, there can be little doubt that Russia meets
> the "great power" standard .. The myth of Russian decline is precisely that
> - a myth ..
>
> ...
>
> The US establishment, its propaganda, have accustomed their herd of zombies
> ('the voters') to believe that Russia is 'broken' and 'weak', - so now they
> will have to face some face saving issues.
>
> And by the way, the statement of American decline is precisely - not a myth.
> Then, moreover, the China rise.
> Getting out of delusion will be painful.

Russia is nothing more than a third world country with nuclear weapons. Things were so promising after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. The new Russian Federation had so much opportunity until Putin came to power. Putin is merely another in a long line of third world dictators who seek power for themselves. The whole strategy of "salami slicing" Russian is using in Georgia, Ukraine and other border states is nothing but empire building.. A shitty, third world empire where millions are miserable in order for Putin to have his palace on the Black Sea.

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 by: a425couple - Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:08 UTC

On 1/12/2022 4:27 AM, Dean Markley wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:50:04 PM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> <https://tinyurl.com/yyfmd9uc> thehill.com
>>
>> Reports of Russia's decline ..
>>
>> Tales of Russia's demise have circulated with remarkable consistency since
>> the fall of the Soviet Union .. In recent years, the more dire prophesies of
>> Russian collapse that circulated in the 1990s having gone unfulfilled ..
>>
>> .. Such characterizations are grossly misleading. Indeed, they couldn't be
>> more wrong. Russia is not the geopolitical basket-case it was in the
>> immediate post-Soviet era. Nor is it the bit player on the world stage it is
>> often portrayed as in the Western press. In fact, quite the opposite: Viewed
>> dispassionately and in the cold light of Realpolitik, Russia is
>> unambiguously a "great power" .. When it comes to possessing a substantial
>> and varied instrument of power, there can be little doubt that Russia meets
>> the "great power" standard .. The myth of Russian decline is precisely that
>> - a myth ..
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The US establishment, its propaganda, have accustomed their herd of zombies
>> ('the voters') to believe that Russia is 'broken' and 'weak', - so now they
>> will have to face some face saving issues.
>>
>> And by the way, the statement of American decline is precisely - not a myth.
>> Then, moreover, the China rise.
>> Getting out of delusion will be painful.
>
> Russia is nothing more than a third world country with nuclear weapons. Things were so promising after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. The new Russian Federation had so much opportunity until Putin came to power. Putin is merely another in a long line of third world dictators who seek power for themselves. The whole strategy of "salami slicing" Russian is using in Georgia, Ukraine and other border states is nothing but empire building. A shitty, third world empire where millions are miserable in order for Putin to have his palace on the Black Sea.

I would suggest saying "Russia is nothing more than a
third world country with nuclear weapons and a very strong military,
backed by major petroleum production and reserves."

The greed of Putin and all his corrupt cronies keep
the majority of Russians trapped in a meager situation.
If they would take less percentage, everyone including
themselves could have more gross.

Look at the chart I just posted,

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-94-trillion-world-economy-in-one-chart/

▼ Use This Visualization
The $94 Trillion World Economy in One Chart

LOOK AT RUSSIA'S situation!!!
If they would drop the regular threats of war,
and stop their computer hacking they could be
welcomed into civilized modern growth.
The Russian people deserve better.

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:30 UTC

"a425couple" wrote in message news:S9CDJ.195500$Wkjc.168424@fx35.iad...

LOOK AT RUSSIA'S situation!!!
If they would drop the regular threats of war,
and stop their computer hacking they could be
welcomed into civilized modern growth.
The Russian people deserve better.

-----------------------

The capable ones emigrated, and the remainder have repeatedly rejected the
opportunity to become responsible adults and prefer to wallow in their
victim mentality.
https://russia-direct.org/opinion/russias-inferiority-complex-continues-block-its-future-development

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:45 UTC

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/slavophile.htm

"Ironically, the Bolsheviks began as radical Westernizers, importing into
Russia a revolutionary creed that worshipped progress and rejected all forms
of nationalism. Within a decade of coming to power, however, they turned
into isolationists and, eventually, extreme Slavophiles. After the collapse
of the Soviet Union, a Russian version of the Weimar Republic "stab in the
back" theory emerged, explaining the Soviet collapse as a sinister plot by
Washington and its stooge, Mikhail Gorbachev."

Alexei Bayer wrote: "Putin and his entourage have consciously and cynically
promoted the nationalist, xenophobic and isolationist aspects of the
Slavophile creed to keep real democracy out. That way, the kleptocrats could
go on despoiling the country without fearing accountability or restraints
typical of democratic societies."

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:04 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/y94xfg6k> nytimes.com

America Is Falling Apart at the Seams

... In 2020, the number of miles Americans drove fell 13 percent because of
the pandemic, but the number of traffic deaths rose 7 percent .. Then in
the first half of 2021 .. motor vehicle deaths were up 18.4 percent even
over 2020 .. Driving under the influence, speeding and failure to wear a
seatbelt ..

... "All Kinds of Bad Behavior Is on the Rise." Not only is reckless driving
on the rise, .. but the number of altercations on airplanes has exploded,
the murder rate is surging in cities, drug overdoses are increasing,
Americans are drinking more, nurses say patients are getting more abusive,
and so on and so on ..

Teachers are facing a rising tide of disruptive behavior .. "Schools have
seen an increase in both minor incidents, like students talking in class,
and more serious issues, such as fights and gun possession ..

Drug deaths had risen almost continuously for more than 20 years, but
"overdoses shot up especially during the pandemic." For much of this time
the overdose crisis has been heavily concentrated among whites, but in
2020, the essay observed, "the Black rate exceeded the white rate for the
first time." ..

"Hate Crime Reports in U.S. Surge to the Highest Level in 12 Years, F.B.I.
Says." The F.B.I. found that between 2019 and 2020 the number of attacks
targeting Black people, for example, rose to 2,871 from 1,972.

The number of gun purchases has soared. In January 2021, more than two
million firearms were bought, .. "an 80 percent year-over-year spike and
the third-highest one-month total on record." ..

... The share of Americans who give to charity is steadily declining ..

... Something darker and deeper seems to be happening .. What the hell is
going on? The short answer: I don't know. I also don't know what's causing
the high rates of depression, suicide and loneliness ..

....

The American decline is not a myth.

> <https://tinyurl.com/yh5xnboz>
>
> US Collective Suicide

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 by: a425couple - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 03:08 UTC

On 1/12/2022 9:30 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "a425couple"  wrote in message news:S9CDJ.195500$Wkjc.168424@fx35.iad...
>
> LOOK AT RUSSIA'S situation!!!
> If they would drop the regular threats of war,
> and stop their computer hacking they could be
> welcomed into civilized modern growth.
> The Russian people deserve better.
>
> -----------------------
>
> The capable ones emigrated, and the remainder have repeatedly rejected
> the opportunity to become responsible adults and prefer to wallow in
> their victim mentality.
> https://russia-direct.org/opinion/russias-inferiority-complex-continues-block-its-future-development
>
>
Here is one story, some areas have slight improvement!

https://www.intellinews.com/slow-changes-in-russia-s-regional-quality-of-life-rating-but-big-inequalities-remain-203809/

Slow changes in Russia’s regional quality of life rating,
but big inequalities remain

Life has improved in about a third of Russia's regions and the most
successful are attracting their residents home again after they had left
for Moscow, where wages are six times higher.

By Ben Aris in Berlin March 10, 2021

For two decades it used to be said that there were two Russias: Moscow
and everywhere else. The difference between the quality of life in
Russia’s capital and in the other 84 far flung regions was enormous.

In 2020, the quality of life in most Russian regions remained
practically unchanged, according to a quality of life survey carried out
by the state news agency Ria Novosti.

The rating found that the best places to live, as in the previous year,
remain Moscow, St. Petersburg and the Moscow region, which comes as no
surprise, and they have scores of over 80,000 out of a possible total
index score of 85,000

In the second tier, with scores of over 60,000, are many familiar names,
led by Kazan in the Republic of Tatarstan, Belgorod near the Ukrainian
border, Krasnodar in the balmy southern part of the country, Leningrad
that surrounds St Petersburg, the agricultural powerhouse of Voronezh in
the black earth regions and the oil-rich West Siberian Khanty-Mansi
Autonomous Okrug as the only comfortable region that is not in the
European part of Russia.
----------and on, lots of details at citation.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:57 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com

... America's Dark Ages have arrived

The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before our
eyes, as our culture slips into darkness and confusion. The country is
showing unmistakable signs of receding .. The American empire is failing
today as well .. We also seem to be following the arc of political, legal,
economic, literary/cultural, social/familial, public health, and religious
decline .. Our political system is hastening quickly backward .. We have
seen the decay of our legal standards ..

Small farms and small business are rapidly being replaced by factory farms
and monopolies in industry and services. Our workplaces constitute the new
version of medieval feudal baronies who rule over their modern subjects/
serfs with an iron hand and no mercy. We have fallen hard back into the
economic pattern of debt slavery ..

Our students don't learn much in school .. Our entire culture is going
backward .. Few young people want to marry, and even fewer want to have
children .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early
death by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
currently prepares for its final sinking .. The ride is over, folks.

> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>
> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:58 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/yb3anno8> pakistantoday.com.pk

Joe Biden supporters 'apoplectic' one year into his presidency

... The frustration was especially pronounced this past week .. "I don't
know if the right word is 'apoplectic' or 'demoralised.' We're down.
We're not seeing the results." ..

For now, virtually none of the groups that fuelled Biden's 2020 victory
are happy .. Young people are frustrated .. Women are worried .. And
voters of colour .. are furious ..

... The president's approval ratings have been falling among virtually
every demographic as the pandemic continues to rage, inflation soars and
the majority of his campaign promises go unfulfilled ..

....

The deluded herd can not accept the fact that nothing can be improved.
Whether it is Biden or Trump or someone else, things will only continue
getting worse. It's time to abandon your unrealistic expectations.

> <https://tinyurl.com/yja3tl4c>
>
> The Last Days of the American Republic

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On 1/17/2022 3:57 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com
>
> .. America's Dark Ages have arrived
>
> The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before our
> eyes,

> .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early
> death by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
> currently prepares for its final sinking ..  The ride is over, folks.
>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>>
>> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..

Hmmm, Oleg, how do you figure these?

Suicide rates by sex and country
(age-standardized, per 100,000 population, World Health Organisation,
2019)[17][18]

Country All Male Female

Russia * 21.6 38.2 7.2
United States * 14.5 22.4 6.8
Canada * 10.3 15.3 5.4
United Kingdom * 6.9 10.4 3.4

from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
---------------

Countries and regions by life expectancy at birth in 2019
Countries and regions Life expectancy at birth
All M F Gender life gap
Canada 82.4 80.4 84.4 4.0
United Kingdom 81.3 79.6 83.0 3.5
United States 79.1 76.6 81.6 5.0
Russia 72.9 67.6 78.2 10.6

So Oleg, do you have a will completed?

Ohh, well this site indicates that you are not likely
to have much to worry about.

List of countries by mean net financial assets per capita by Allianz A.G.

This list shows 57 countries with net financial assets per capita.

List by Allianz A.G. (2021)
Rank Country Mean net financial assets per capita
(EUR)
1 United States 218,469
2 Switzerland 212,052
3 Denmark 149,241
4 Netherlands 128,557
5 Sweden 124,763
6 Singapore 118,934
7 Taiwan 117,659
8 New Zealand 114,171
9 Japan 100,471
10 Belgium 98,929
11 Canada 96,429
12 United Kingdom 90,018
13 Australia 88,735
14 Israel 87,459
15 France 66,562
16 Austria 63,588
17 Italy 62,775
18 Germany 61,760
19 Ireland 60,364
20 South Korea 36,467
21 Finland 34,932
22 Spain 34,012
23 Portugal 27,917
24 Norway 27,626
25 Slovenia 23,011
26 Czech Republic 21,607
27 Estonia 19,680
28 Chile 17,431
29 Greece 16,733
30 Hungary 16,159
31 Lithuania 12,701
32 Croatia 12,511
33 Latvia 12,453
34 China 12,426
35 Bulgaria 10,008
36 Malaysia 9,951
37 Poland 9,882
38 Slovakia 7,531
39 South Africa 6,398
40 Romania 6,351
41 Mexico 5,955
42 Russia 5,874

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_financial_assets_per_capita

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a425couple, <news:QFiFJ.167613$7D4.79500@fx37.iad>
> On 1/17/2022 3:57 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com
>>
>> .. America's Dark Ages have arrived
>>
>> The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before our
>> eyes,
>
>> .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early
>> death by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
>> currently prepares for its final sinking .. The ride is over, folks.
>>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>>>
>>> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..
>
> Hmmm, Oleg, how do you figure these?
>
> Suicide rates by sex and country
> (age-standardized, per 100,000 population, World Health Organisation,
> 2019)[17][18]
>
> Country All Male Female
>
> Russia?* 21.6 38.2 7.2
> United States?* 14.5 22.4 6.8

Russian statistics distinguish between suicides and undetermined intent
deaths, while the WHO essentially sums up these two ones under "suicide"
label, which makes these WHO data unreliable.

And WHO itself prudently presents these data as "estimates", not facts.

This is for ignorant you for starters.

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On 1/17/2022 1:26 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:QFiFJ.167613$7D4.79500@fx37.iad>
>> On 1/17/2022 3:57 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com
>>>
>>> .. America's Dark Ages have arrived
>>>
>>> The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before
>>> our eyes,
>>
>>>  .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early death
>>> by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
>>> currently prepares for its final sinking .. The ride is over, folks.
>>>
>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>>>>
>>>> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..
>>
>> Hmmm, Oleg, how do you figure these?
>>
>> Suicide rates by sex and country
>> (age-standardized, per 100,000 population, World Health Organisation,
>> 2019)[17][18]
>>
>> Country              All Male Female
>>
>>  Russia?*        21.6 38.2 7.2
>>  United States?* 14.5 22.4 6.8
>
> Russian statistics distinguish between suicides and undetermined intent
> deaths, while the WHO essentially sums up these two ones under "suicide"
> label, which makes these WHO data unreliable.
>
> And WHO itself prudently presents these data as "estimates", not facts.
>
> This is for ignorant you for starters.

Ignorant me? Huh??

How about your shorter life expectancy?
6, 7, or 8 years less life. Oh Well.

How about your greatly smaller individual financial
assets?
Even the people in Slovenia, Czech Republic, Estonia,
Hungary, Lithuania, Croatia and Latvia have more
than twice the assets as the average Russian.
Even the people in Poland are doing better!!

Poor Oleg, he is likely to die sooner and poorer.

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On 1/17/22 1:26 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:QFiFJ.167613$7D4.79500@fx37.iad>
>> On 1/17/2022 3:57 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com
>>>
>>> .. America's Dark Ages have arrived
>>>
>>> The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before
>>> our eyes,
>>
>>>  .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early death
>>> by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
>>> currently prepares for its final sinking .. The ride is over, folks.
>>>
>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>>>>
>>>> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..
>>
>> Hmmm, Oleg, how do you figure these?
>>
>> Suicide rates by sex and country
>> (age-standardized, per 100,000 population, World Health Organisation,
>> 2019)[17][18]
>>
>> Country              All Male Female
>>
>>  Russia?*        21.6 38.2 7.2
>>  United States?* 14.5 22.4 6.8
>
> Russian statistics distinguish between suicides and undetermined intent
> deaths,

if that is true, it shouldn't be difficult at all for you to provide them

while the WHO essentially sums up these two ones under "suicide"
> label, which makes these WHO data unreliable.
>
> And WHO itself prudently presents these data as "estimates", not facts.
>
> This is for ignorant you for starters.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:51 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/y7fmanqv> iz.ru

Arctic tests of the Kinzhal hypersonic complex have been successfully
completed .. During the maneuvers, the pilots practiced patrolling the
airspace, and also launched hypersonic missiles .. Testing of the complex
in the northern latitudes went on for several years and ended at the end
of last year ..

The Arctic zone has always been under the close attention of the military
... "This is the northern approach to our borders, which is not very well
covered .. We must keep any enemy at arm's length .." ..

The hypersonic missile systems "Kinzhal" can strike at ground targets,
but first of all they are designed to deal with enemy strike ship groups
... Kinzhal will help push the ships of the enemy from our shores by more
than 2 thousand km .. With one hit, a Kinzhal missile can destroy or
disable a large warship - a destroyer, cruiser or aircraft carrier ..
And the takeoff of MiGs and the very attack of missiles flying at a speed
of Mach 10 is very difficult to detect ..

....

> <https://tinyurl.com/2p855vp8>
>
> Third Test Of The Air Force's Hypersonic Weapon Has Failed ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:58 UTC

a425couple, <news:R0nFJ.199769$VS2.188183@fx44.iad>
> On 1/17/2022 1:26 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com
>>>>
>>>> .. America's Dark Ages have arrived
>>>>
>>>> The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before
>>>> our eyes,
>>>
>>>> .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early death
>>>> by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
>>>> currently prepares for its final sinking .. The ride is over, folks.
>>>>
>>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>>>>>
>>>>> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..
>>>
>>> Hmmm, Oleg, how do you figure these?
>>>
>>> Suicide rates by sex and country
>>> (age-standardized, per 100,000 population, World Health Organisation,
>>> 2019)[17][18]
>>>
>>> Country All Male Female
>>>
>>> Russia?* 21.6 38.2 7.2
>>> United States?* 14.5 22.4 6.8
>>
>> Russian statistics distinguish between suicides and undetermined intent
>> deaths, while the WHO essentially sums up these two ones under "suicide"
>> label, which makes these WHO data unreliable.
>>
>> And WHO itself prudently presents these data as "estimates", not facts.
>>
>> This is for ignorant you for starters.
>
> Ignorant me? Huh??

You, in deed.

> How about your shorter life expectancy?
> 6, 7, or 8 years less life. Oh Well.

Russia's life expectancy shows a steady rising dynamics, whiile the
American life expactancy is been now falling for the seventh year in
a row.

America goes down.

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 by: George Black - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:45 UTC

On 19/01/2022 12:51 am, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/y7fmanqv> iz.ru
>
> Arctic tests of the Kinzhal hypersonic complex have been successfully
> completed .. During the maneuvers, the pilots practiced patrolling the
> airspace, and also launched hypersonic missiles .. Testing of the
> complex in the northern latitudes went on for several years and ended at
> the end of last year ..
>
> The Arctic zone has always been under the close attention of the military
> .. "This is the northern approach to our borders, which is not very well
> covered .. We must keep any enemy at arm's length .." ..
>
> The hypersonic missile systems "Kinzhal" can strike at ground targets,
> but first of all they are designed to deal with enemy strike ship groups
> .. Kinzhal will help push the ships of the enemy from our shores by more
> than 2 thousand km .. With one hit, a Kinzhal missile can destroy or
> disable a large warship - a destroyer, cruiser or aircraft carrier ..
> And the takeoff of MiGs and the very attack of missiles flying at a speed
> of Mach 10 is very difficult to detect ..
>
> ...
>

Russian propaganda detected.
Filed with Moon Landing

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 by: Stephen Harding - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:22 UTC

On 1/17/22 6:58 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yb3anno8> pakistantoday.com.pk
>
> Joe Biden supporters 'apoplectic' one year into his presidency
>
> .. The frustration was especially pronounced this past week .. "I don't
> know if the right word is 'apoplectic' or 'demoralised.' We're down.
> We're not seeing the results." ..
>
> For now, virtually none of the groups that fuelled Biden's 2020 victory
> are happy .. Young people are frustrated .. Women are worried .. And
> voters of colour .. are furious ..
>
> .. The president's approval ratings have been falling among virtually
> every demographic as the pandemic continues to rage, inflation soars and
> the majority of his campaign promises go unfulfilled ..
>
> ...
>
> The deluded herd can not accept the fact that nothing can be improved.
> Whether it is Biden or Trump or someone else, things will only continue
> getting worse.  It's time to abandon your unrealistic expectations.
>
>
>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/yja3tl4c>
>>
>> The Last Days of the American Republic

Putin for President!

No free Press. No viable alternate political party. People such as
yourself promoting Putin actions and policies

Putin would be a shoe-in and then all Americans would be in solidarity
with Russia with a single leader for both countries!

SMH

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:53 UTC

Stephen Harding, <news:ss9hco$f0c$1@dont-email.me>
> On 1/17/22 6:58 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/yb3anno8> pakistantoday.com.pk
>>
>> Joe Biden supporters 'apoplectic' one year into his presidency
>>
>> .. The frustration was especially pronounced this past week .. "I don't
>> know if the right word is 'apoplectic' or 'demoralised.' We're down. We're
>> not seeing the results." ..
>>
>> For now, virtually none of the groups that fuelled Biden's 2020 victory
>> are happy .. Young people are frustrated .. Women are worried .. And voters
>> of colour .. are furious ..
>>
>> .. The president's approval ratings have been falling among virtually every
>> demographic as the pandemic continues to rage, inflation soars and the
>> majority of his campaign promises go unfulfilled ..
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The deluded herd can not accept the fact that nothing can be improved.
>> Whether it is Biden or Trump or someone else, things will only continue
>> getting worse. It's time to abandon your unrealistic expectations.
>>
>>
>>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yja3tl4c>
>>>
>>> The Last Days of the American Republic
>
> Putin for President!
>
> No free Press. No viable alternate political party. People such as
> yourself promoting Putin actions and policies
>
> Putin would be a shoe-in and then all Americans would be in solidarity with
> Russia with a single leader for both countries!

Instead of repeating the fetishized mantras, you'd face reality.

| US is an oligarchy, not a democracy .. Economic elites and
| organised groups representing business interests have substantial
| independent impacts on US government policy, while average
| citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no
| independent influence .. When a majority of citizens disagrees
| with economic elites and / or with organised interests, they
| generally lose .. <https://t.co/pQMLntWSXR>

The American system works for big corporations while "all Americans"
are manageable herd. It's why life in the US is steadily deteriorating
in the recent decades. And even this silly herd, over the recent time,
less and less trusts their "free press", as various indicators show,
because even the silly sheep realize this press is not free and fair.

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 by: ZZyXX - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:42 UTC

On 1/18/22 3:58 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:R0nFJ.199769$VS2.188183@fx44.iad>
>> On 1/17/2022 1:26 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yd3yro2w> hollandsentinel.com
>>>>>
>>>>> .. America's Dark Ages have arrived
>>>>>
>>>>> The 400-year-long American enlightenment is sunsetting right before
>>>>> our eyes,
>>>>
>>>>> .. Addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic disease, and early death
>>>>> by suicide, viral infection, or automatic weapon .. Our culture
>>>>> currently prepares for its final sinking .. The ride is over, folks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/y7n23tkz>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LA train tracks blanketed in empty boxes ..
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, Oleg, how do you figure these?
>>>>
>>>> Suicide rates by sex and country
>>>> (age-standardized, per 100,000 population, World Health
>>>> Organisation, 2019)[17][18]
>>>>
>>>> Country All Male Female
>>>>
>>>> Russia?* 21.6 38.2 7.2
>>>> United States?* 14.5 22.4 6.8
>>>
>>> Russian statistics distinguish between suicides and undetermined intent
>>> deaths, while the WHO essentially sums up these two ones under "suicide"
>>> label, which makes these WHO data unreliable.
>>>
>>> And WHO itself prudently presents these data as "estimates", not facts.
>>>
>>> This is for ignorant you for starters.
>>
>> Ignorant me?  Huh??
>
> You, in deed.
>
>> How about your shorter life expectancy?
>>    6, 7, or 8 years less life.  Oh Well.
>
> Russia's life expectancy shows a steady rising dynamics,

and you will provide proof, won't you

whiile the
> American life expactancy is been now falling for the seventh year in a row.
>
> America goes down.

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 by: ZZyXX - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:44 UTC

On 1/19/22 10:53 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Stephen Harding, <news:ss9hco$f0c$1@dont-email.me>
>> On 1/17/22 6:58 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yb3anno8> pakistantoday.com.pk
>>>
>>> Joe Biden supporters 'apoplectic' one year into his presidency
>>>
>>> .. The frustration was especially pronounced this past week .. "I don't
>>> know if the right word is 'apoplectic' or 'demoralised.' We're down.
>>> We're
>>> not seeing the results." ..
>>>
>>> For now, virtually none of the groups that fuelled Biden's 2020 victory
>>> are happy .. Young people are frustrated .. Women are worried .. And
>>> voters
>>> of colour .. are furious ..
>>>
>>> .. The president's approval ratings have been falling among virtually
>>> every
>>> demographic as the pandemic continues to rage, inflation soars and the
>>> majority of his campaign promises go unfulfilled ..
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> The deluded herd can not accept the fact that nothing can be improved.
>>> Whether it is Biden or Trump or someone else, things will only continue
>>> getting worse. It's time to abandon your unrealistic expectations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yja3tl4c>
>>>>
>>>> The Last Days of the American Republic
>>
>> Putin for President!
>>
>> No free Press.  No viable alternate political party.  People such as
>> yourself promoting Putin actions and policies
>>
>> Putin would be a shoe-in and then all Americans would be in solidarity
>> with
>> Russia with a single leader for both countries!
>
> Instead of repeating the fetishized mantras, you'd face reality.
>
> | US is an oligarchy, not a democracy ..  Economic elites and
> | organised groups representing business interests have substantial
> | independent impacts on US government policy, while average
> | citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no
> | independent influence .. When a majority of citizens disagrees
> | with economic elites and / or with organised interests, they
> | generally lose .. <https://t.co/pQMLntWSXR>
>
> The American system works for big corporations while "all Americans"
> are manageable herd. It's why life in the US is steadily deteriorating
> in the recent decades. And even this silly herd, over the recent time,
> less and less trusts their "free press", as various indicators show,
> because even the silly sheep realize this press is not free and fair.

how many russians trust their "free press"

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 by: ZZyXX - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:45 UTC

On 1/18/22 3:51 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/y7fmanqv> iz.ru
>
> Arctic tests of the Kinzhal hypersonic complex have been successfully
> completed .. During the maneuvers, the pilots practiced patrolling the
> airspace, and also launched hypersonic missiles .. Testing of the
> complex in the northern latitudes went on for several years and ended at
> the end of last year ..
>
> The Arctic zone has always been under the close attention of the military
> .. "This is the northern approach to our borders, which is not very well
> covered .. We must keep any enemy at arm's length .." ..
>
> The hypersonic missile systems "Kinzhal" can strike at ground targets,
> but first of all they are designed to deal with enemy strike ship groups
> .. Kinzhal will help push the ships of the enemy from our shores by more
> than 2 thousand km .. With one hit, a Kinzhal missile can destroy or
> disable a large warship - a destroyer, cruiser or aircraft carrier ..
> And the takeoff of MiGs and the very attack of missiles flying at a speed
> of Mach 10 is very difficult to detect ..
>
> ...

did they use the Kutzenov as a test target

>
>
>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/2p855vp8>
>>
>> Third Test Of The Air Force's Hypersonic Weapon Has Failed ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:46 UTC

ZZyXX, <news:ssa0k2$1vo5$2@gioia.aioe.org>
> On 1/18/22 3:58 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> a425couple, <news:R0nFJ.199769$VS2.188183@fx44.iad>
>>> On 1/17/2022 1:26 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>> How about your shorter life expectancy?
>>> 6, 7, or 8 years less life. Oh Well.
>>
>> Russia's life expectancy shows a steady rising dynamics,
>
> and you will provide proof, won't you

<http://tinyurl.com/y39kgo8p>

> whiile the
>> American life expactancy is been now falling for the seventh year in a row.
>>
>> America goes down.

<https://tinyurl.com/drug-overdose-pindos>
<https://tinyurl.com/drug-overdose-europe>
America the leprosarium.

The American "deaths of despair" <https://tinyurl.com/y5mdvwak>
have climbed up to the 100 years back level, which means many in
the degenerated nation no longer want to live.

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 by: Stephen Harding - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:04 UTC

On 1/19/22 1:53 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Stephen Harding, <news:ss9hco$f0c$1@dont-email.me>
>> On 1/17/22 6:58 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yb3anno8> pakistantoday.com.pk
>>>
>>> Joe Biden supporters 'apoplectic' one year into his presidency
>>>
>>> .. The frustration was especially pronounced this past week .. "I don't
>>> know if the right word is 'apoplectic' or 'demoralised.' We're down.
>>> We're
>>> not seeing the results." ..
>>>
>>> For now, virtually none of the groups that fuelled Biden's 2020 victory
>>> are happy .. Young people are frustrated .. Women are worried .. And
>>> voters
>>> of colour .. are furious ..
>>>
>>> .. The president's approval ratings have been falling among virtually
>>> every
>>> demographic as the pandemic continues to rage, inflation soars and the
>>> majority of his campaign promises go unfulfilled ..
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> The deluded herd can not accept the fact that nothing can be improved.
>>> Whether it is Biden or Trump or someone else, things will only continue
>>> getting worse. It's time to abandon your unrealistic expectations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yja3tl4c>
>>>>
>>>> The Last Days of the American Republic
>>
>> Putin for President!
>>
>> No free Press.  No viable alternate political party.  People such as
>> yourself promoting Putin actions and policies
>>
>> Putin would be a shoe-in and then all Americans would be in solidarity
>> with
>> Russia with a single leader for both countries!
>
> Instead of repeating the fetishized mantras, you'd face reality.
>
> | US is an oligarchy, not a democracy ..  Economic elites and
> | organised groups representing business interests have substantial
> | independent impacts on US government policy, while average
> | citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no
> | independent influence .. When a majority of citizens disagrees
> | with economic elites and / or with organised interests, they
> | generally lose .. <https://t.co/pQMLntWSXR>
>
> The American system works for big corporations while "all Americans"
> are manageable herd. It's why life in the US is steadily deteriorating
> in the recent decades. And even this silly herd, over the recent time,
> less and less trusts their "free press", as various indicators show,
> because even the silly sheep realize this press is not free and fair.

Lucky for Putin that Russians don't have herd instincts like people in
Western democracies.

SMH

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:00 UTC

Stephen Harding, <news:ssbj4p$lfu$1@dont-email.me>
> On 1/19/22 1:53 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yb3anno8> pakistantoday.com.pk
>>>>
>>>> Joe Biden supporters 'apoplectic' one year into his presidency
>>>>
>>>> .. The frustration was especially pronounced this past week .. "I don't
>>>> know if the right word is 'apoplectic' or 'demoralised.' We're down.
>>>> We're not seeing the results." ..

>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> The deluded herd can not accept the fact that nothing can be improved.
>>>> Whether it is Biden or Trump or someone else, things will only continue
>>>> getting worse. It's time to abandon your unrealistic expectations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yja3tl4c>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Last Days of the American Republic
>>>
>>> Putin for President!
>>>
>>> No free Press. No viable alternate political party. People such as
>>> yourself promoting Putin actions and policies
>>>
>>> Putin would be a shoe-in and then all Americans would be in solidarity
>>> with Russia with a single leader for both countries!
>>
>> Instead of repeating the fetishized mantras, you'd face reality.
>>
>> | US is an oligarchy, not a democracy .. Economic elites and
>> | organised groups representing business interests have substantial
>> | independent impacts on US government policy, while average
>> | citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no
>> | independent influence .. When a majority of citizens disagrees
>> | with economic elites and / or with organised interests, they
>> | generally lose .. <https://t.co/pQMLntWSXR>
>>
>> The American system works for big corporations while "all Americans"
>> are manageable herd. It's why life in the US is steadily deteriorating
>> in the recent decades. And even this silly herd, over the recent time,
>> less and less trusts their "free press", as various indicators show,
>> because even the silly sheep realize this press is not free and fair.
>
> Lucky for Putin that Russians don't have herd instincts like people in
> Western democracies.

Putin has eaten your brain.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:39 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/ydbqljko> rt.com

Trials of the state-of-the-art Zircon sea-launched hypersonic cruise
missile are currently being completed, and the projectiles will be
deployed to the Russian Navy later this year .. The Zircon missile has
been undergoing testing for seven years and in recent times has been
fired from both frigates and submarines ..

The Zircon is an anti-ship missile capable of accelerating up to Mach
9. It has been designed to hit enemy surface ships, such as frigates
and aircraft carriers, as well as ground targets ..

....

So it'd be better to keep your aircraft carriers in a safe place.

> <https://tinyurl.com/yyfmd9uc>
>
> Reports of Russia's decline ..

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