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* Canadarm 2 hit by space debrisJF Mezei
`* Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debrisJeff Findley
 `* Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debrisJF Mezei
  `* Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debrisOtto J. Makela
   `- Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debrisjacob navia

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 by: JF Mezei - Fri, 28 May 2021 23:15 UTC

https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/iss/news.asp#20210528

(Canadian Space Agency).

Arm not damaged, but there is what looks like a ;arge gunshot hole
through the protective blanket on the arm. The above page has good
umagery and text.

Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debris

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From: jfind...@cinci.nospam.rr.com (Jeff Findley)
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Subject: Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debris
Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:24:12 -0400
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 by: Jeff Findley - Sat, 29 May 2021 17:24 UTC

In article <qQesI.8427$N%.7270@fx05.iad>, jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca
says...
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> https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/iss/news.asp#20210528
>
> (Canadian Space Agency).
>
> Arm not damaged, but there is what looks like a ;arge gunshot hole
> through the protective blanket on the arm. The above page has good
> umagery and text.

If you were doing an EVA this would be a "bad day" if the debris hit
your spacesuit. Luckily, I don't think this has happened in the history
of ISS EVAs.

Jeff
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 by: JF Mezei - Sat, 29 May 2021 23:25 UTC

On 2021-05-29 13:24, Jeff Findley wrote:

> If you were doing an EVA this would be a "bad day" if the debris hit
> your spacesuit. Luckily, I don't think this has happened in the history
> of ISS EVAs.

Do they orient the ISS during EVAs to have the ISS act as a shield for
EVA crews?

Or do such projectiles come from all directions and there is no way to
predict from which direction the next one will come?

Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debris

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From: om...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela)
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Subject: Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debris
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 by: Otto J. Makela - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 08:59 UTC

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 2021-05-29 13:24, Jeff Findley wrote:
>> If you were doing an EVA this would be a "bad day" if the debris hit
>> your spacesuit. Luckily, I don't think this has happened in the
>> history of ISS EVAs.
>
> Do they orient the ISS during EVAs to have the ISS act as a shield for
> EVA crews?
>
> Or do such projectiles come from all directions and there is no way to
> predict from which direction the next one will come?

The majority of orbital launches are towards the equator, and in the
direction of Earth's rotation to get that extra oomph so statistically
they are skewed that way.

However, when talking about random bits of debris your guess is as good
as mine. Let's hope it all doesn't get as bad as Donald Kessler predicted.

https://www.sciencealert.com/space-debris-has-damaged-the-international-space-station

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Re: Canadarm 2 hit by space debris

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 by: jacob navia - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 21:52 UTC

Le 04/06/2021 à 10:59, Otto J. Makela a écrit :
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-29 13:24, Jeff Findley wrote:
>>> If you were doing an EVA this would be a "bad day" if the debris hit
>>> your spacesuit. Luckily, I don't think this has happened in the
>>> history of ISS EVAs.
>>
>> Do they orient the ISS during EVAs to have the ISS act as a shield for
>> EVA crews?
>>
>> Or do such projectiles come from all directions and there is no way to
>> predict from which direction the next one will come?
>
> The majority of orbital launches are towards the equator, and in the
> direction of Earth's rotation to get that extra oomph so statistically
> they are skewed that way.
>
> However, when talking about random bits of debris your guess is as good
> as mine. Let's hope it all doesn't get as bad as Donald Kessler predicted.
>
> https://www.sciencealert.com/space-debris-has-damaged-the-international-space-station
>

It is incredible how this "civilization" repeats all errors again and
again. We have now polluted in less than 50 years near earth orbit so
much that we are destroying our own spacecraft with our pollution.

Debris can be avoided with a minimum of responsible planning and
foresight. But why bother?

Let's go on polluting, somebody else will clean up later, who cares?

Chinese officials tell us that their rubbish will fall down somewhere
maybe over our heads (or even theirs!). They refuise the small expense
of a controlled re-entry.

Satellites COULD be fitted with small rockets that would brake and make
a controlled re-entry. But why bother about that extra expense?

Even if it is small compared to the cost of recovering later the cloud
of small debris that will be produced after a few dozens of years.

50 degrees celsius north of canada. We are suffocating in our own waste
but why bother cleaning? Canada is increasing their CO2 emissions.

LET'S GO ON POLLUTING UNTIL NOTHING IS LEFT!!!

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