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Subject: Re: "Google Wallet may be making a return" (and "Why is it so complex to add Covid-19 Vaccination Cards to the Apple Wallet?!)
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:30 UTC

Michael Trew wrote:

>>> When you say a "static" balancer, do you mean a bubble balancer? I've
>>> seen some used shop equipment come up for sale on FB Marketplace and
>>> Craigslist before, still usually out of my preferred price range (cheap).
>>
>> The problem that anyone who has never worked on cars has with the term
>> "dynamic balancing" is they fall prey to the fear-based marketing.
>>
>> Harbor Freight also sells a crappy bead breaker tool, which isn't designed
>> for larger tires, but which works for those bigger SUV tires if you put a
>> wooden board on it to "extend" its base as you step on the board to keep
>> the bead breaker from tipping backward on those larger diameter tires.
>
> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a non-commercial
> vehicle? I don't think I've ever had a vehicle (I've owned well over 30
> vehicles) with a larger than 15 inch diameter tire. That includes my
> F-150 and C10 trucks. My '97 Chrysler LHS *might* have had 16" tires,
> at the largest. I hate needlessly large modern trucks and SUV's.

The only reason for mentioning the rim diameter is that the HF bead breaker
tool has to be "modified" slightly for the larger diameter wheels on SUVs
and light trucks. That modification simply is to extend the base a few
inches so that the larger wheels lay on top of that now-extended base.

The way I easily extend the base is to put a long 10-inch-wide board over
the base, and I step on that inch-thick board to keep it from flipping up
when pressing down on the bead breaking lever. That works fine but I'm
aware others have elegantly welded length onto the HF bead breaker tool.

Still others have welded a longer arc onto the bead breaker arm, which,
someday, I may do myself - as it would make bead breaking easier to do.

Speaking of the length of the arc in bead breaking, that's the part that
does all the work, so it's critical, especially when slippery with dish
detergent. In fact, the short arc of the bead breaker "attachment" that
comes with the HF tire-removal tool is why I said the first thing you do is
not install it when you're setting up the tire mounting tool.

Part of the proper setup for the tire-mounting tool is in fastening it to
something solid, where most people attach it directly to the pavement, as I
do myself. I've seen others attaching it to a pallet or to a large piece of
plywood, which works if you need the portability but you then have to
always stand on that board the entire time you're removing the tire and
reinstalling it, which is a tap dance I don't want to bother with doing.

When you do the static balancing, there are the old-time advantages of
spending the time to do the job right, which, in my experience, the tire
shops do NOT bother to do.
<https://www.tyrebaydirect.com/wp-content/uploads/Red-dot-yellow-dot.png>

Notice this is an important advantage of DIY in that you will do they job
right. You have no idea whether the tire shop will bother to do the job
right. Of course, there is debate on the net as to what is right, but if
you don't know it, most (but not all!) wheels come with a marking on the
inside and most new tires come with red dots and/or yellow dots marked on
one side of the tire. I ran an experiment by driving by tire shops and
asking them what the dots mean, and almost none of the people there knew,
which, when I first asked, was a shocker.
<https://hollisbrothersauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tiredots.jpg>

It's like asking the guy selling you bolts what the bolt markings mean and
he doesn't know... that's when you learn that DIY is better because you
know more than the guy in the shop does about how to properly mount a tire,
even as he will have more experience in a week than you have in your life.

I am well aware that the rim markings get scraped away over time, and that
the yellow and/or red markings don't matter all that much to the guy in the
tire shop who has a dynamic balancing machine which tells him exactly where
and how much weight to put on each side, which compensates for any inherent
imbalance in the wheel and in the tire.

But since YOU are doing your own tires, you spend the time to find the
markings on the wheel (and to mark them with whiteout or nail polish so you
can find them in the future) and you spend the time to _properly_ adjust
the tire mount point onto the rim with respect to the valve stem _before_
you balance the tire.

In fact, what got me _started_ on doing my own mounting & balancing was
that I _never_ saw a single shop ever mount my own tires correctly. More
than once I pointed it out and they gave me the mounting for free (stories
were posted at the time in rec.autos.tech & alt.home.repair newsgroups).

I'm not saying the wheels will fall off the car, but I would make the claim
that nearly 100% of the tires mounted and balanced and installed by
professional shops are NOT done by the book (again, it may not matter if
the torque is wrong or if they pry off the BMW BBS hubcaps wrong of if they
don't put differential pressure in the front versus the rear tires, etc.,
but the fact that it's prevalent in my experience means it's likely
prevalent in all situations (people just don't know what's right).

I've even had to tell _them_ how to position the tires properly on the rim!

Bear in mind I don't know of any local stores which sell the typical crimp
on wheel weights, and, unfortunately, in California, you can't get lead
anymore (for better or for worse, I guess) so you can either use the
stick-on weights that HF sells, or you have to mail order them.

Never forget the dynamic balance test is always free anywhere in the world.
--
Usenet is where friendly people daily gather to discuss topics of interest.

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 by: AJL - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:52 UTC

On 4/30/22 9:34 AM, AJL wrote:
>On 4/30/2022 8:36 AM, sms wrote:

>> Nitrogen fill means fewer tires operating at low pressure and fewer
>> warranty claims.

>If I get a puncture, nitrogen leaks out just like my good old air...Otherwise I
>seldom see more than a pound or two pound change when checking every
>month and often no change at all...

Update: Did the monthly tire pressure check this AM. They all went UP a
pound or two since last month's check. Probably because the garage is
getting hotter as we go from winter to summer. (I check them after they sit
overnight.) Still easier than driving somewhere for nitrogen IMO. YMMV of
course...

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 2 May 2022 16:22 UTC

AJL wrote:

>>> Nitrogen fill means fewer tires operating at low pressure and fewer
>>> warranty claims.
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>>If I get a puncture, nitrogen leaks out just like my good old air...Otherwise I
>>seldom see more than a pound or two pound change when checking every
>>month and often no change at all...
>
> Update: Did the monthly tire pressure check this AM. They all went UP a
> pound or two since last month's check. Probably because the garage is
> getting hotter as we go from winter to summer. (I check them after they sit
> overnight.) Still easier than driving somewhere for nitrogen IMO. YMMV of
> course...

On the topic of marketing cleverly differentiating your air from theirs...
my point is always that morons fall for every marketing trick in the book.
*Nitrogen in Tires: A Complete Guide*
<https://www.autolist.com/guides/nitrogen-in-tires>
a. They Keep The Tire Pressure Better:
b. Effective in Hot Climates:
c. Improved Fuel Economy:
d. Increased Tread and Tire Life:
e. Cooler Tires:

Side note: As a general rule, any marketing claims that something does
everything, usually means it does absolutely nothing. (At least they didn't
add the classic "and more" when fabricating that dubious list of benefits.)

They have no education and a low IQ, so if it merely "sounds" scientific,
then, to these ill-educated low-IQ morons, it _is_ scientific (to them!).

Hence, you bring up a good adult point that the potential daily temperature
fluctuation can have a greater effect on PSI than the mere 1.3 psi measured
by Consumer Reports after an entire year in their testing regimen.

There's nothing wrong with nitrogen in tires, but what _adults_ need to
realize is it's simply a marketing gimmick. That Lewis fell for the
marketing gimmick hook line and sinker makes my point about the iKooks.

People who don't own adult comprehensive skills _infer_ exactly what
marketing messaging _wants_ them to infer, which is that the nitrogen
theoretical advantages over air actually matter in the real world.

There is no scientific study yet that I can find that says it does.
Yet, any moron can find marketing claims galore that it does.

The _reason_ it doesn't matter isn't in the theory, but in the facts.
a. The nitrogen Costco uses is only 95% (not 100%)
b. Even if it were 100%, oxygen then diffuses IN (yes, *IN*!)
c. The tires are not deflated completely before inflating
d. Where Consumers Union said you needed to fill multiple times
e. And then you have to find nitrogen to top it off each time
f. Where the total possible difference is round about a single PSI

What that green cap really means is someone fell for the marketing gimmick.
It's a dunce cap, of sorts, IMHO.

BTW, to always strive to add scientifically factual adult value to any
conversation on Usenet among peers, here's a rebuttal to the CR report:
*Nitrogen in Tires Consumer Reports Response*
<https://www.gonitrotire.com/nitrogen-tire-inflation-blog/nitrogen-in-tires-consumer-reports-response/>

Their rebuttal was fair, in my opinion, and yes, I _am_ well educated,
particularly in engineering and in the sciences.
--
BTW, I'm not against nitrogen in tires if you get it for free as I'm not
saying it harms anything. I'm just saying it's a marketing gimmick.

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On 5/2/2022 7:34 AM, Michael Trew wrote:

<snip>

> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a non-commercial
> vehicle?

Not really necessary, but they do improve handling and increase traction.

Manual tire changers are not expensive. The ones from Harbor Freight are
sufficient for home use.

The issue remains that static balancing should be avoided. Read
<https://e-quipfix.co.uk/wheel-balancing-101-static-vs-dynamic-wheel-balancing/>.

Not many home mechanics are going to spend the money on a dynamic wheel
balancer, but it's extremely foolish to balance vehicle tires using a
static balancer.

There's no upside to mounting your own tires when you then have to take
the them to somewhere that they can be properly balanced.

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On 2022-05-02 7:51 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 10:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>>> 1. HF magnetic light (AA only - I never buy AAA items - ever!)
>>>
>>> Why no AAA batteries?
>>
>> Logic. Sense. Practicality.
>
> True, but some things, you can't help.  Both my Roku box for the TV and
> the DVD/VCR combo take AAA batteries.  I didn't design the remotes; they
> are what they are.
>
>> Fun fact: Did you ever take apart a 9V battery cube? (Guess what's
>> inside.)
>
> No I haven't, but I looked it up.  Looks like 6 little 1.5V batteries;
> interesting.

But they're not AAA batteries as Arlen implies.

They're not even AAAA batteries (which are a rare, but real thing)

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On 2022-05-02 7:34 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 9:48, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> When you say a "static" balancer, do you mean a bubble balancer? I've
>>> seen some used shop equipment come up for sale on FB Marketplace and
>>> Craigslist before, still usually out of my preferred price range
>>> (cheap).
>>
>> The problem that anyone who has never worked on cars has with the term
>> "dynamic balancing" is they fall prey to the fear-based marketing.
>>
>> Harbor Freight also sells a crappy bead breaker tool, which isn't
>> designed
>> for larger tires, but which works for those bigger SUV tires if you put a
>> wooden board on it to "extend" its base as you step on the board to keep
>> the bead breaker from tipping backward on those larger diameter tires.
>
> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a non-commercial
> vehicle?  I don't think I've ever had a vehicle (I've owned well over 30
> vehicles) with a larger than 15 inch diameter tire.  That includes my
> F-150 and C10 trucks.  My '97 Chrysler LHS *might* have had 16" tires,
> at the largest.  I hate needlessly large modern trucks and SUV's.

You mean a 15" diameter WHEEL, don't you?

:-)

I'm kind of with you about needlessly large trucks, etc.

My brother and I at one time each owned a RAM 1500, but mine was a 1998,
while his was a 2017 or 2018.

The difference in size was startling.

But larger wheels do have their place.

Larger wheels on high performance vehicles allow for larger brakes, and
while larger brakes won't actually stop you any quicker for a single
stop, their greater heat capacity will mean they fade less when doing
multiple stops/slowings.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 2 May 2022 17:58 UTC

sms wrote:

>> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a non-commercial
>> vehicle?
>
> Not really necessary, but they do improve handling and increase traction.

Bear in mind this is an _adult_ discussion below, devoid of marketing BS.

There are scientific reasons what all these things do in terms of handling:
a. Wider tread
b. Lower profile
c. Larger diameter

If they come with the vehicle stock, then it's my observation that, in
general, the choice by the manufacturer makes sense; but if they're
aftermarket choices, often, in my experience, they don't make sense.

Like putting low-profile tires on a SUV.
That makes no sense from a performance standpoint.

It's a "fashion" statement just as the green dunce cap is on tires.
> Manual tire changers are not expensive. The ones from Harbor Freight are
> sufficient for home use.

You need more than the tire changer since you need three different tools:
a. First, you need the bead breaker
b. Then, you need the manual tire changer
c. Then you should add a static balancer
All of which HF sells (and all of which I own), where the cost is offset
after a few years, depending of course on how many tires you fix, flip
rotate, and replace.

The other tools needed are a vise grip (because the HF tire mounting bar
twists in your hands, particularly when you have dish detergent around),
two extra HF tire-mounting irons (for the really tough jobs when you can't
get the lower bead into the deepest point of the rim), dish detergent spray
(for obvious reasons), a schrader valve screwdriver, a valve installation
lever (you don't need it for removal but for replacement), a valve filling
tool (sans the schrader valve) and, the one optional tool that's super
handy, a bead blaster (aka a bead bazooka) which saves a ton of time.
<https://youtu.be/KkSZrDg7ZOg>

For balancing, it's helpful to have the special tools for removal and
replacement of the clip-on weights, but normal hand tools suffice.

Likewise, it's helpful for patch plug repair to have a round buffer and
tire bead spreader, but, again, normal power tools such as wire brushes and
sandpaper drill fittings work just fine for home use.

Bear in mind motorcycles require slightly different tools.

> The issue remains that static balancing should be avoided. Read
> <https://e-quipfix.co.uk/wheel-balancing-101-static-vs-dynamic-wheel-balancing/>.

If you read that article, which I don't think Steve actually read, you can
see it says what I've been saying, which is just because the shop has the
tools doesn't mean the shop properly mounts and balances your wheels and
tires using those fancy tools.

This is a direct quote from Steve's link above:
As an engineer, I often attend to sites with reports of a faulty wheel
balancer. The general complaint is "... the machine needs calibrating",
and this diagnosis usually derived from frequent customer "comebacks"
or that operatives are repeatedly "chasing weights."

And although on some occasions the wheel balancer does actually have
an issue or requires calibration, you would be surprised how often
the issues come down to operator error. Which is bit disconcerting
to think about considering the number of wheels they have most
likely worked on previously."

While just as with nitrogen in tires I have no problem with the fact that
it's being done, for free... as I'm never saying that it does harm.

The problem I have is _charging_ people for the hokus pokus that they don't
need, where almost everyone who doesn't balance their own wheels like I do
wouldn't know that you _can_ get a perfectly good balance that way.

And never forget, the _test_ for dynamic balance is _always_ free.

The problem with people like Steve making proclamations that are based
_purely_ on glossy marketing brochures is that people like Steve have never
even once in their entire lives done what they say can't be done.

People like Steve who have never done it & yet who feel they completely
know how it can be done are therefore, almost always wrong as a result of
their lack of knowledge (and in their total trust in marketing gimmicks).

The "requirement" for a dynamic balance is a marketing gimmick.
The "test" for dynamic balance is _always_ free anywhere in the world.

Prove me wrong.

> Not many home mechanics are going to spend the money on a dynamic wheel
> balancer, but it's extremely foolish to balance vehicle tires using a
> static balancer.

Again, Steve has never done it while I have, and more to the point of
Steve's ignorance, Steve is only quoting MARKETING bullshit to back up his
claims.

I've got nothing against dynamic balancing, mind you (except that they do
it wrong in terms of proper initial positioning), but I also know that the
test for proper dynamic balance is _always_ free everywhere in the world.

I also know that if the vehicle fails that free dynamic balancing test,
then that _one_ wheel (isolating it is a bitch sometimes though) can be
brought to Costco in California for a $5 dynamic balance, last I checked.

And yes, Costco will do it even for tires they didn't mount (based on my
last check which, admittedly was years ago as I've always _passed_ the free
dynamic balance test after having mounted & balanced my own tires at home).

> There's no upside to mounting your own tires when you then have to take
> the them to somewhere that they can be properly balanced.

Steve has _never_ mounted and balanced tires in his entire life.

I'm not asking Steve to start mounting and balancing tires himself; but I
am asking Steve to explain, with facts, and without quoting pure marketing
bullshit, why he feels that a proper dynamic balance can't be achieved at
home, particularly when the test for dynamic balance is always free, no
matter where you are in the world.

This is an _adult_ concept about adult comprehensive skills.

Can Steve (or anyone) bolster that belief system using scientific evidence
that does NOT come from some MARKETING outfit trying to sell dynamic
balancing?

Can he or not?
That is the adult question to ask.

I'll read _everything_ anyone posts to back up their claim that you can't
achieve proper balance of your wheels and tires at home.
--
Usenet is where friendly people daily gather to discuss topics of interest.

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Michael Trew wrote:

> On 4/29/2022 10:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>>> 1. HF magnetic light (AA only - I never buy AAA items - ever!)
>>>
>>> Why no AAA batteries?
>>
>> Logic. Sense. Practicality.
>
> True, but some things, you can't help. Both my Roku box for the TV and
> the DVD/VCR combo take AAA batteries. I didn't design the remotes; they
> are what they are.

It's nice to know there are adults here who can speak rationally.

I agree that you can't help NOT get AAA battery requirements with some
things, where even switching those AAA batteries to rechargeable AAA
batteries won't work all the time (due to the slight difference in
voltage).

As an example, I have AAA and AA rechargeables where I have one AA ceiling
mounted light unit that refuses to work with rechargeables so I have to use
non-rechargeable batteries for that unit (in a high ceiling barn attic).

Luckily about the only AAA devices I had in the past have been slowly
phased out over time, although I agree that when it's in something like a
remote, you didn't likely choose the device based on battery practicality.

Bear in mind there's nothing wrong with the chemistry or size per se, but
my argument is simply that AA batteries provide more bang for the buck (at
typical prices) and that it's easier to stock fewer battery sizes and,
perhaps the most contentious claim - that most of the time what uses AAA
batteries is often large enough to have been able to be designed for AA.

If nobody bought units designed for AAA batteries, then they'd stop using
AAA batteries when AA works just as well (actually better in most cases).

>> Fun fact: Did you ever take apart a 9V battery cube? (Guess what's inside.)
>
> No I haven't, but I looked it up. Looks like 6 little 1.5V batteries;
> interesting.

I'm impressed that you looked it up as the iKooks on one of the ngs always
brazenly deny all facts they're unaware of, simply because they're unaware
of them.

I don't know anyone who has taken apart a typical 9V battery who wasn't
marvelled at the beauty and simplicity of how they achieved that voltage.

Me? My dad used to have a box of stuff he was throwing away which he'd
constantly replenish with things like motors, catchers mitts, shoes, etc.,
where I'd take apart everything he put in that box in order to learn how
they're made.

The first time I took apart a pair of high heel shoes I was impressed that
the heel was made out of maple - where I love woods - as I'd take apart old
furniture to get the walnut and oak and cedar to use in woodworking.

Taking apart a Radio Shack rechargeable D cell showed me that it was just a
rechargeable C cell inside (which is almost criminal) and taking apart a
six volt battery smelled something awful, but what's inside most of the 9V
batteries was an engineering marvel of voltage-adding simplicity indeed.
<https://youtu.be/L8nThJum77Q?t=75>

>> For _years_ I've been documenting my, oh, it's well over sixty tires by
>> now, where I wrote a tutorial at the 40-tire mark long ago (I don't have
>> kids at home anymore that have cars to be fixed with them learning how).
>>
>> BTW, I'm logical and sensible, so if there is _anything_ I've suggested
>> above that you would like to understand the logic of, then just ask.
>>
>>> I fix most things on cars myself, and there is a satisfaction to that
>>> (although it's also relevant to cheap/necessity for me).
>>
>> I have never been to a mechanic in my life and I own cars for decades.
>
> I don't own any BMW's, but if you're bored enough, feel free to come
> visit -- I've got a 6 car garage, and car projects for weeks! ;)

The problem with bimmers and beemers is that they handle well, but that's
about it. BMW knows how to make a drive train and suspension. But that's
about it.

Bimmers & beemers perform beautifully, but, a Toyota SUV is overall built
better (IMHO) because _all_ the systems are built well enough to not break.

> New Garage:
>
> https://postimg.cc/mt2LFr46

If someone bothers to post a link, I always look at it, where I love that
nice wide garage door and the fact you can store stuff in the rest of that
building (presumably). (What's that white stuff on the ground though?) :)

> https://postimg.cc/SjGQsMBM

You have LOTS of room for your tools in there. I can't tell if the floor is
dirt or concrete, but you can do tire changing if you can find a flat spot.
<https://youtu.be/CWdoTUCm5qw?t=354>

> Part of my mess:
>
> https://postimg.cc/PL6yZdsR

With all those cars, you too would benefit from the economies of scale that
mounting and balancing your own wheels/tires will garner you.

Plus you'd have the convenience of doing it in your pajamas at home.
<https://youtu.be/_fKOt1ylEiI>

> There are several Geo Metros out of view, as well as an '89 Olds Cutlass
> Ciera up on jacks. A neighbor torched off the rusted-on rotors, and I
> need to finish the brakes and lower ball joints.

With respect to brakes, you know what I know, which is that they're one of
the easiest jobs in automotive maintenance to do, and yet, I've heard of
people spending upwards of _thousands_ to do a typical four wheel brake
job!

Are you aware of the cold/hot friction ratings printed on every passenger
brake pad sold in the USA? I buy mine by that, and nothing else (other than
fit, and price, of course). I get my rotors and calipers at CarID or
RockAuto and I mic the rotors and drums before replacing them.

Do you do similarly?
And do you agree that, in general, brakes are pretty damn easy to do right?
--
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 2 May 2022 18:42 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> On the BMW forums, I'm a legend, but of course I go by a different nym.

BTW, as an example, Scotty Kilmer (whom I have a love/hate relationship
with) actually stole one of my graphics for his tire balancing video! :)

I'll say no more, but the point is that I document tire mounting and
balancing at home so well on the various related forums that my graphics
almost always show up in a typical Google image search on the topic.

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On 2022-05-02 11:30 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> On 4/29/2022 10:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 1. HF magnetic light (AA only - I never buy AAA items - ever!)
>>>>
>>>> Why no AAA batteries?
>>>
>>> Logic. Sense. Practicality.
>>
>> True, but some things, you can't help.  Both my Roku box for the TV
>> and the DVD/VCR combo take AAA batteries.  I didn't design the
>> remotes; they are what they are.
>
> It's nice to know there are adults here who can speak rationally.
>
> I agree that you can't help NOT get AAA battery requirements with some
> things, where even switching those AAA batteries to rechargeable AAA
> batteries won't work all the time (due to the slight difference in
> voltage).

I remind everyone that you actually said this:

"1. Most things that require AAA don't actually _need_ AAA (this is
key!) (The assumption that they're "smaller" very often is just not true.) "

The assumption that AAA batteries are smaller than AA batteries is
ALWAYS true...

....because they are smaller.

>
> As an example, I have AAA and AA rechargeables where I have one AA ceiling
> mounted light unit that refuses to work with rechargeables so I have to use
> non-rechargeable batteries for that unit (in a high ceiling barn attic).

You talk such gibberish.

How could the light even tell that one battery was rechargeable and th
other not? Are the electrons a different colour?

:-)

>
> Luckily about the only AAA devices I had in the past have been slowly
> phased out over time, although I agree that when it's in something like a
> remote, you didn't likely choose the device based on battery practicality.
>
> Bear in mind there's nothing wrong with the chemistry or size per se, but
> my argument is simply that AA batteries provide more bang for the buck (at
> typical prices) and that it's easier to stock fewer battery sizes and,
> perhaps the most contentious claim - that most of the time what uses AAA
> batteries is often large enough to have been able to be designed for AA.

That's not what you bothered to say earlier.

>
> If nobody bought units designed for AAA batteries, then they'd stop using
> AAA batteries when AA works just as well (actually better in most cases).
>
>>> Fun fact: Did you ever take apart a 9V battery cube? (Guess what's
>>> inside.)
>>
>> No I haven't, but I looked it up.  Looks like 6 little 1.5V batteries;
>> interesting.
>
> I'm impressed that you looked it up as the iKooks on one of the ngs always
> brazenly deny all facts they're unaware of, simply because they're unaware
> of them.
> I don't know anyone who has taken apart a typical 9V battery who wasn't
> marvelled at the beauty and simplicity of how they achieved that voltage.

Do you even now what "battery" actually means in the context of electricity?

>
> Me? My dad used to have a box of stuff he was throwing away which he'd > constantly replenish with things like motors, catchers mitts, shoes,
etc.,
> where I'd take apart everything he put in that box in order to learn how
> they're made.
>
> The first time I took apart a pair of high heel shoes I was impressed that
> the heel was made out of maple - where I love woods - as I'd take apart old
> furniture to get the walnut and oak and cedar to use in woodworking.
>
> Taking apart a Radio Shack rechargeable D cell showed me that it was just a
> rechargeable C cell inside (which is almost criminal) and taking apart a
> six volt battery smelled something awful, but what's inside most of the 9V
> batteries was an engineering marvel of voltage-adding simplicity indeed.
> <https://youtu.be/L8nThJum77Q?t=75>

I notice you don't provide any support for your claim about a Radio
Shack D cell.

>
>>> For _years_ I've been documenting my, oh, it's well over sixty tires by
>>> now, where I wrote a tutorial at the 40-tire mark long ago (I don't have
>>> kids at home anymore that have cars to be fixed with them learning how).
>>>
>>> BTW, I'm logical and sensible, so if there is _anything_ I've suggested
>>> above that you would like to understand the logic of, then just ask.
>>>
>>>> I fix most things on cars myself, and there is a satisfaction to that
>>>> (although it's also relevant to cheap/necessity for me).
>>>
>>> I have never been to a mechanic in my life and I own cars for decades.
>>
>> I don't own any BMW's, but if you're bored enough, feel free to come
>> visit -- I've got a 6 car garage, and car projects for weeks!  ;)
>
> The problem with bimmers and beemers is that they handle well, but that's
> about it. BMW knows how to make a drive train and suspension. But that's
> about it.
> Bimmers & beemers perform beautifully, but, a Toyota SUV is overall built
> better (IMHO) because _all_ the systems are built well enough to not break.
>
>> New Garage:
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/mt2LFr46
>
> If someone bothers to post a link, I always look at it, where I love that
> nice wide garage door and the fact you can store stuff in the rest of that
> building (presumably). (What's that white stuff on the ground though?) :)
>
>> https://postimg.cc/SjGQsMBM
>
> You have LOTS of room for your tools in there. I can't tell if the floor is
> dirt or concrete, but you can do tire changing if you can find a flat spot.
> <https://youtu.be/CWdoTUCm5qw?t=354>
>
>> Part of my mess:
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/PL6yZdsR
>
> With all those cars, you too would benefit from the economies of scale that
> mounting and balancing your own wheels/tires will garner you.
>
> Plus you'd have the convenience of doing it in your pajamas at home.
> <https://youtu.be/_fKOt1ylEiI>
>
>> There are several Geo Metros out of view, as well as an '89 Olds
>> Cutlass Ciera up on jacks.  A neighbor torched off the rusted-on
>> rotors, and I need to finish the brakes and lower ball joints.
>
> With respect to brakes, you know what I know, which is that they're one of
> the easiest jobs in automotive maintenance to do, and yet, I've heard of
> people spending upwards of _thousands_ to do a typical four wheel brake
> job!

Not everyone has the tools or the inclination.

>
> Are you aware of the cold/hot friction ratings printed on every passenger
> brake pad sold in the USA? I buy mine by that, and nothing else (other than
> fit, and price, of course). I get my rotors and calipers at CarID or
> RockAuto and I mic the rotors and drums before replacing them.

And ignore that some pads are easier on rotors and drums...

>
> Do you do similarly?
> And do you agree that, in general, brakes are pretty damn easy to do right?

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On 2022-05-02 11:42 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Andy Burnelli wrote:
>
>> On the BMW forums, I'm a legend, but of course I go by a different nym.
>
> BTW, as an example, Scotty Kilmer (whom I have a love/hate relationship
> with) actually stole one of my graphics for his tire balancing video! :)
>
> I'll say no more, but the point is that I document tire mounting and
> balancing at home so well on the various related forums that my graphics
> almost always show up in a typical Google image search on the topic.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

You know what would have been great there?

A Google image search...

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In article <t4poav$ub1$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2022-05-02 11:30 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> > As an example, I have AAA and AA rechargeables where I have one AA ceiling
> > mounted light unit that refuses to work with rechargeables so I have to use
> > non-rechargeable batteries for that unit (in a high ceiling barn attic).
>
> You talk such gibberish.

he does, but in this case, there is surprisingly a bit of truth.

> How could the light even tell that one battery was rechargeable and th
> other not? Are the electrons a different colour?

different voltages.

nimh/nicad rechargeable batteries have a nominal voltage of ~1.2v/cell,
alkaline batteries are ~1.5v/cell and non-rechargeable lithium
batteries are ~1.6v/cell.

recent devices normally work with all three types, especially if only
just one or two batteries is needed, where the difference in voltage is
small.

however, some older devices, especially ones that use several
batteries, may fail to function due to the lower voltage of nimh, or
possibly be damaged by the higher voltage of lithium batteries.

i have an old nikon flash that is designed to use six 1.5v alkaline
batteries (9v), but with nimh rechargeable batteries, it's only 7.2v,
which is enough of a difference so that the flash does not work at all.

> > I don't know anyone who has taken apart a typical 9V battery who wasn't
> > marvelled at the beauty and simplicity of how they achieved that voltage.
>
> Do you even now what "battery" actually means in the context of electricity?

he has photos of books about vacuum tubes/valves.

what more is there to know?

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On 5/2/2022 11:30, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>
> Notice this is an important advantage of DIY in that you will do they job
> right. You have no idea whether the tire shop will bother to do the job
> right. Of course, there is debate on the net as to what is right, but if
> you don't know it, most (but not all!) wheels come with a marking on the
> inside and most new tires come with red dots and/or yellow dots marked on
> one side of the tire. I ran an experiment by driving by tire shops and
> asking them what the dots mean, and almost none of the people there knew,
> which, when I first asked, was a shocker.
> <https://hollisbrothersauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tiredots.jpg>

Interesting, I've never seen these markings. Then again, I always buy
used tires, typically as cheap as I can find them. My favorite local
shop will sell you a used tire with decent tread, and mount/balance it
for a total cost of $30 (tire included). Of course, they don't have all
sizes, and I sometimes have to source my tires elsewhere. I don't bat
an eye at sidewall cracks unless I'm on for a 6+ hour road trip (always
keep a full-size spare).

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On 5/2/2022 12:22, sms wrote:
> On 5/2/2022 7:34 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a
>> non-commercial vehicle?
>
> Not really necessary, but they do improve handling and increase traction.
>
> Manual tire changers are not expensive. The ones from Harbor Freight are
> sufficient for home use.
>
> The issue remains that static balancing should be avoided. Read
> <https://e-quipfix.co.uk/wheel-balancing-101-static-vs-dynamic-wheel-balancing/>.
>
>
> Not many home mechanics are going to spend the money on a dynamic wheel
> balancer, but it's extremely foolish to balance vehicle tires using a
> static balancer.
>
> There's no upside to mounting your own tires when you then have to take
> the them to somewhere that they can be properly balanced.

Well, the upside that I see is saving money. Most shops that
mount/balance with their machine want to charge you $20+ per wheel these
days. I buy used tires where ever I can find them.

For my Geo Metro collection, I have a huge pile of 12" tires in the
garage, many as old as the 1990's. At one point, I was trying to get
rid of the oldest most rotted/cracked (but still somewhat decent) ones,
and I was mounting them myself (not balanced) and putting them on the
back of the car only, with a full size spare with me. When I got sick
of a flat or blowout every month or so, I eventually quit doing that.

In short, what I'm saying... you and I are in a rather different world,
vehicle-wise ;)

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On 5/2/2022 13:58, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> the one optional tool that's super
> handy, a bead blaster (aka a bead bazooka) which saves a ton of time.
> <https://youtu.be/KkSZrDg7ZOg>

Hehe, I've done this with lighter or brake fluid and a match a few times...

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On 5/2/2022 12:27, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-02 7:34 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a
>> non-commercial vehicle? I don't think I've ever had a vehicle (I've
>> owned well over 30 vehicles) with a larger than 15 inch diameter
>> tire. That includes my F-150 and C10 trucks. My '97 Chrysler LHS
>> *might* have had 16" tires, at the largest. I hate needlessly large
>> modern trucks and SUV's.
>
> You mean a 15" diameter WHEEL, don't you?

Yes.

> Larger wheels on high performance vehicles allow for larger brakes, and
> while larger brakes won't actually stop you any quicker for a single
> stop, their greater heat capacity will mean they fade less when doing
> multiple stops/slowings.

Eh, I don't know, I guess I'm biased. I drive old beaters; most of my
cars are pre-1990.

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On 5/2/2022 14:30, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>
> It's nice to know there are adults here who can speak rationally.
>
> I'm impressed that you looked it up as the iKooks on one of the ngs always
> brazenly deny all facts they're unaware of, simply because they're unaware
> of them.

I'm posting from the rec.autos.tech NG which is cross-posted into this
thread; I'm not subscribed to the other two NG's anymore (never sub'd to
the android NG); I trimmed my list of NG's significantly.

I wouldn't relegate that behavior to just a specific NG, that's most of
Usenet these days (and people in general). When the flame wars and what
not start, I tune out; it bores me. I'm here for intelligent discussion.

> You have LOTS of room for your tools in there. I can't tell if the floor is
> dirt or concrete, but you can do tire changing if you can find a flat spot.

There are two wide doors, as shown. It's about 64 ft wide, and 30 feet
deep. I reckon it's easily big enough to be a 6 bay garage, plus extra
room. The whole right side, I think with the junk shown in the photo,
is a concrete floor. The left side is not; it's just dirt (but could be
concreted).

Both sides are totally full of junk from the prior owners. My step
father and I bought it at sheriff's sale for back taxes for a crazy
cheap price, and we're cleaning it out. I have a booth at a local
antique mall, and what I feel like cleaning has been sold down there.
Lots of it is fit for a dumpster though.

> With respect to brakes, you know what I know, which is that they're one of
> the easiest jobs in automotive maintenance to do, and yet, I've heard of
> people spending upwards of _thousands_ to do a typical four wheel brake
> job!
>
> Are you aware of the cold/hot friction ratings printed on every passenger
> brake pad sold in the USA? I buy mine by that, and nothing else (other than
> fit, and price, of course). I get my rotors and calipers at CarID or
> RockAuto and I mic the rotors and drums before replacing them.
>
> Do you do similarly?
> And do you agree that, in general, brakes are pretty damn easy to do right?

I was not aware of the friction ratings. I'm usually just really easy
on the brakes, and I buy what's cheap. Many of these cars, I tire of in
6 months, and sell it and buy another when I find a deal. One could say
"flipping", but it's hardly that; it's more of a car buying problem -- I
have too much fun with it. I enjoy *not* having a car payment, and I'd
say I at least average out (sometimes I win, other times I lose when
buying/selling cars).

Unfortunately, in my cold climate, sometimes a simple brake job is a
total PITA. The Olds' wagon had the rotors *so* rusted onto the hubs
that I couldn't get them off anyhow. That goodness the neighbor brought
his welding torch over, and got 'em nice an hot until the 8 pound hammer
got them off. I can't fathom spending that kind of money on a brake
job. A local exhaust shop chargers $265 per axle to do the brakes on
most cars, but I still do it myself almost all times.

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 by: Michael Trew - Tue, 3 May 2022 01:39 UTC

On 5/2/2022 20:44, nospam wrote:
> In article<t4poav$ub1$1@dont-email.me>, Alan<nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-05-02 11:30 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> I don't know anyone who has taken apart a typical 9V battery who wasn't
>>> marvelled at the beauty and simplicity of how they achieved that voltage.
>>
>> Do you even now what "battery" actually means in the context of electricity?
>
> he has photos of books about vacuum tubes/valves.
>
> what more is there to know?

I don't have any books on the matter, but I have an old vacuum tube
tester, and some equipment to restore old tube radios and televisions --
although that hobby has been side-lined for a long time.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Tue, 3 May 2022 03:00 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> You talk such gibberish.
>
> he does, but in this case, there is surprisingly a bit of truth.

Why does anyone even bother to respond to Alan Baker who is an utter moron.

>> How could the light even tell that one battery was rechargeable and th
>> other not? Are the electrons a different colour?
>
> different voltages.

You'd think every _adult_ would already know this... but not Alan Baker.

> nimh/nicad rechargeable batteries have a nominal voltage of ~1.2v/cell,
> alkaline batteries are ~1.5v/cell and non-rechargeable lithium
> batteries are ~1.6v/cell.

For Alan Baker to so brazenly be so confident in his ignorance is classic.
I remember once he repeatedly insisted it's impossible to change the
newsreader header line, even after I showed him it could easily be done.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/4AdaprOPM-g/>

Who is _that_ stupid but those who own DK lemon-juice bank robber brains.

Alan Baker is left of the DK quartile 1 where he thinks the little that he
does know, is _everything_ there is to know about rechargeable batteries.
> recent devices normally work with all three types, especially if only
> just one or two batteries is needed, where the difference in voltage is
> small.

This is a four battery unit which I bought from Costco and put in the barn.
It's a rare instance of where the slight voltage difference matters.

> however, some older devices, especially ones that use several
> batteries, may fail to function due to the lower voltage of nimh, or
> possibly be damaged by the higher voltage of lithium batteries.

I have never put _higher_ voltage AA/AAA cells in anything but your point
is valid that there likely exists AA/AAA cells that have higher voltages.

> i have an old nikon flash that is designed to use six 1.5v alkaline
> batteries (9v), but with nimh rechargeable batteries, it's only 7.2v,
> which is enough of a difference so that the flash does not work at all.

That's another instance of where the slight voltage difference matters.
Also, sometimes the battery chemistry matters to some devices, mostly with
respect to either instantaneous current output or long storage ability.

Despite what nospam has claimed in the past, both of those are deeply
related to what I call the "internal resistance" of the battery (although I
am aware nospam has his own definition of what that means, so I just state
that here for the intelligent people and not for nospam since all nospam
wants to do whenever I mention "internal resistance" is argue about it).

In general, the internal resistance you want to be high for long-storage
devices, and you want it to be low for high current devices (e.g., the
defibrillators I worked on in graduate school were all GE NiCad C-cells).
>>> I don't know anyone who has taken apart a typical 9V battery who wasn't
>>> marvelled at the beauty and simplicity of how they achieved that voltage.
>>
>> Do you even now what "battery" actually means in the context of electricity?
>
> he has photos of books about vacuum tubes/valves.

A great way to learn about things is to take them apart, where I used to
take apart TVs in the vacuum tube days to learn how they were made.
> what more is there to know?

iKooks ridicule people with an education simply because you don't have one.
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Tue, 3 May 2022 03:06 UTC

Michael Trew wrote:

>> what more is there to know?
>
> I don't have any books on the matter, but I have an old vacuum tube
> tester, and some equipment to restore old tube radios and televisions --
> although that hobby has been side-lined for a long time.

Like most of the older guys here, I learned about vacuum tubes when my Dad
would gather up a collection of them to take to the hardware store to test
on the machine.

I used to take them apart and marvel at the complexity of the insides.

Fun fact: What _direction_ does the glass initially fly when you hit the
front of an old TV in the middle of the glass face (to shatter it)?
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Tue, 3 May 2022 03:41 UTC

Michael Trew wrote:

> I'm posting from the rec.autos.tech NG which is cross-posted into this
> thread; I'm not subscribed to the other two NG's anymore (never sub'd to
> the android NG); I trimmed my list of NG's significantly.

There are five fundamental common consumer operating system newsgroups:
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<http://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux>
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-10>
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system>

You can ask the exact same question of all five (assuming it's relevant,
such as "does the Tor Browser work on your platform?) and you'll get an
_adult_ response to three of the five.

> I wouldn't relegate that behavior to just a specific NG, that's most of
> Usenet these days (and people in general). When the flame wars and what
> not start, I tune out; it bores me. I'm here for intelligent discussion.

Two of the five _always_ garner responses that were written by kindergarten
children (e.g., from Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, et. al).

As you've seen from the likes of Alan Baker & Lewis in this thread, they're
incredibly ignorant - but - what makes them stand out is they think the
little that they know is _all_ there is to know about every topic.

The nospam iKook is different from those, as he actually knows "something",
but he will _always_ defend every Apple flaw to the death, no matter what.

>> You have LOTS of room for your tools in there. I can't tell if the floor is
>> dirt or concrete, but you can do tire changing if you can find a flat spot.
>
> There are two wide doors, as shown. It's about 64 ft wide, and 30 feet
> deep. I reckon it's easily big enough to be a 6 bay garage, plus extra
> room.

Wow. That's great. That's a garage to die for! I love it!
My brother has a professional lift which is one thing I _always_ wanted.

Do you do any woodworking? That's a hobby that also takes up floor space.

> The whole right side, I think with the junk shown in the photo,
> is a concrete floor. The left side is not; it's just dirt (but could be
> concreted).

Ah. Good for you. Once you have concrete, you can do a basic alignment.

BTW, if you want advice in what tools to get for either the alignment or
for the mounting and balancing of tires, just ask & I'll be helpful.

I'm no good with alignment yet, but I have the "drop center" stuff figured
out on tire mounting, which is a lesson learned the hard way the first time
that it matters (e.g., for my bimmber's BBS wheels, it matters a _lot_).

> Both sides are totally full of junk from the prior owners.

Junk is only something one person valued that another person with a
different set of skills, desires & needs doesn't see the value in yet. :)

> My step
> father and I bought it at sheriff's sale for back taxes for a crazy
> cheap price, and we're cleaning it out.

Good for you. Send me all the tools you don't want! :)

> I have a booth at a local
> antique mall, and what I feel like cleaning has been sold down there.
> Lots of it is fit for a dumpster though.

It's interesting how easy it is for any given person to clean out someone
else's stuff. It's due to that value thing. They place a different value on
the objects. Particularly on sentimental stuff.

>> With respect to brakes, you know what I know, which is that they're one of
>> the easiest jobs in automotive maintenance to do, and yet, I've heard of
>> people spending upwards of _thousands_ to do a typical four wheel brake
>> job!
>>
>> Are you aware of the cold/hot friction ratings printed on every passenger
>> brake pad sold in the USA? I buy mine by that, and nothing else (other than
>> fit, and price, of course). I get my rotors and calipers at CarID or
>> RockAuto and I mic the rotors and drums before replacing them.
>>
>> Do you do similarly?
>> And do you agree that, in general, brakes are pretty damn easy to do right?
>
> I was not aware of the friction ratings.

OMG. If you buy your own brake pads & shoes, you need to know this, which I
can help you learn. Bear in mind there are plenty of things that matter in
brakes (like dust, noise, durability, etc.) but there's one thing that
matters _most_, which is your cold/hot friction coefficient.
<https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/disc-brake-pad-friction-codes-explained/>

Luckily you can't get a bad brake pad (IMHO) in the USA, but you can
instantly cut through all the bullshit advertising if you know how to buy
them by their friction ratings.
<https://idpartsblog.com/2019/04/11/what-do-brake-pad-friction-ratings-mean/>

I almost always call technical support and marketing for the brake pads I
purchase (it started because I hated the dusting on the OEM Jurid/Textar so
I contacted Akebono & PBR & Centric to find better replacements.

Talking mano a mano with the technical guys was an eye opener, especially
as they _all_ told me (in effect) that they can put a single grain of dust
and if that single grain is copper or clay they instantly get to claim it's
semi-metallic or ceramic. Those are all marketing gimmicks (IMHO).

What matters most to a brake pad is the cold/hot friction rating, which is
why it's the law that it's written on every USA passenger vehicle pad.
<http://www.safebraking.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/AMECA-List-of-VESC-V-3-Brake-Friction-Material-Edge-Codes-May-20112.pdf>

> I'm usually just really easy
> on the brakes, and I buy what's cheap.

Oh my! Don't do that. Buy inexpensive. Not cheap. What I mean by that is
you can _easily_ get _better_ pads for less money than worse pads if you
_know_ what you're looking for.

Examples abound in the "what brake pad should I buy", just as those answers
abound in every "what X should I buy", in that the marketing wolves prey on
the moronic sheep who think "you get what you pay for", which is just
stupid.

You get what you get.
How much you pay for it depends on how well they've marketed it to fools.

Easily, a GREAT brake pad set should cost no more than about $25 per axle.

My rule of thumb on brake pads is the same as for tires, which is I never
buy lower than the OEM specifications - and I often exceed OEM specs.

For tires, that's things like the speed range & load range and the
traction/treadwear/temperature specs, where for pads it's the cold/hot
friction rating.

Fun fact: What do you think the friction rating is of steel on steel versus
that of _many_ brake pads sold today (e.g., those with an EE coefficient)?

> Many of these cars, I tire of in
> 6 months, and sell it and buy another when I find a deal.

Wow. That's a different use model than most I would think.
I keep cars for decades (and yes, that's plural).

The great thing about bimmers is you get to learn about them right away,
while with Toyota's it takes you years before you learn how to replace
things.

> One could say
> "flipping", but it's hardly that; it's more of a car buying problem -- I
> have too much fun with it. I enjoy *not* having a car payment, and I'd
> say I at least average out (sometimes I win, other times I lose when
> buying/selling cars).

Wow. I've _never_ sold a car in my life. I've always given them away.

But of course, that's when they're decades old, so they generally go to the
people who take them away for free or to kids as their first car.

What I _love_ about owning old cars is that you don't fret when it gets a
new scratch, where I've been to junkyards with cars piled five high and I
think about how the first scratch made each owner cry when they were new.

> Unfortunately, in my cold climate, sometimes a simple brake job is a
> total PITA.

Reminds me of when I replaced my tie rod ends, pitman arm, idler arm, and
ball joints in the dead of winter back in upper New York state. I bought
the parts by driving to the parts store, and the guy behind the counter
ended up giving me two tie rod ends of the same side.

It was my first experience with the need to check the parts _before_ you
leave the auto parts store (and of course, this was before the Internet).

I had to go back to the parts store, but this time riding a motorcycle in
the snow, but what struck me was how nonchalant the guy was behind the
counter.

He didn't care that his mistake cost me all that agony and danger.

The one nice thing about California where I live is the cast aluminum door
handles don't break off in your hands when you open the car door in the
morning!

> The Olds' wagon had the rotors *so* rusted onto the hubs
> that I couldn't get them off anyhow.

I've had drum brakes that wouldn't come off, even with heat and plenty of
banging. It happens back east a lot.


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Michael Trew wrote:

>> <https://hollisbrothersauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tiredots.jpg>
>
> Interesting, I've never seen these markings.

Well, if you don't mount and balance your own tires (note that Alan Baker
got pedantic on you I see from your response), then you won't ever need to
know about (a) match mounting marks on the _wheels_ and (b) the yellow &
red dots on _tires_ (both of which are used for proper mounting steps).

Fun Test: Go to any parking lot of a tire shop (like outside of Costco, for
example) and _look_ at how they did the match mounting of the dots to the
valves!

Almost always the match mounting mark is easy to find only on a _new_
wheel, which is why that's the first thing I highlight with nail polish the
first time I remove a wheel from a new car.

For new tires, the red and/or yellow paint marks are extremely visible.
Bear in mind each manufacturer "can" use them to mean different things, so
you "should" ask the manufacturer, where here's the Yokohama advice:
<https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires-101/maintenance-care-1/mounting-your-tires>

Here is the graphic that goes along with that Yokohama article:
<https://ytc-bm.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/mounting-red-yellow.jpg>

BTW, in the rare cases where I _select_ the actual tires I am going to buy,
I always ask to be allowed to choose them by date (yes, the date is stamped
on every tire just as it's stamped on every battery) and by the marks.

Here's the explanation for how to mount Bridgestone tires by the dots.
<https://www.car-auto-repair.com/tires-balancebridgestone-tires-red-yellow-dots/>

It's a healthy debate whether you want the marks to be diametrically
opposed versus clustered close together though - so if anyone out there
(Xeno?) has advice on which is a better tire, that would be nice to know.

Fun Fact: They use white dots sometimes, often in across-the-pond "tyres".
<https://blobs.continental-tires.com/www8/servlet/blob/554548/e3119edf9831c33103e5a771a0fe5717/download-coloured-dot-markings-data.pdf>

HINT: Europeans often do all the colors differently - did you ever wire a
German power cord to a US black/white/green electrical standard plug?

> Then again, I always buy
> used tires, typically as cheap as I can find them.

When I was a kid I did that, but once I got "flat spot" tires and another
time a sidewall blew out, so I gave up on that when I was still in school.

> My favorite local
> shop will sell you a used tire with decent tread, and mount/balance it
> for a total cost of $30 (tire included).

Depending on the tire, a great quality _new_ tire doesn't cost more than
double that price, without the mounting and balancing of course.

Obviously it depends on the tire, as the bimmer takes tires that are around
a hundred bucks for OEM quality while the Toyota can take a $50 tire that
beats the OEM specs. Most people pay more than double that, but notice what
I say here which is most people believe all the marketing bullshit.

You _never_ get what you pay for. You get whatever it is that you get.
What you _pay_ for it depends on how well it's marketed to fools.

The reason is that the demand by those fools jacks up the price of that
tire, if it's the tire that you want. All this due to marketing.

Tires are a commodity. You buy them purely by the specifications.
And luckily, just as with brake pads, the specs are on the tire.
Same with batteries. The specs are what you buy things by.

Fun fact: What do _most_ people use to choose which tire or battery to buy?

> Of course, they don't have all
> sizes, and I sometimes have to source my tires elsewhere.

A tire is a tire is a tire. Brand doesn't matter. The specs matter.
<https://www.continental-tires.com/car/tire-knowledge/tire-basics/tire-markings>

For better-than-OEM tires, you should pay about, oh, depends on the tire,
but anywhere from about $40 to about $100 per tire (depends on the specs).

Check out the prices at Simple Tire on the Internet. If you give them your
email address, they constantly send you sales which drop the prices even
lower, and they almost never charge for shipping (which would be a lot).
<https://simpletire.com/>

These shops are extremely well connected to the tire mounting shops, so
they'll send the tires to ANYONE you want them to, and you get their
guaranteed price for mounting & balancing - and if they break the rules,
they get kicked out of the program (ask me how I know this).

Given tires are a safety item, I wouldn't recommend buying them used as you
just don't know if they ran them flat or if they sat flat for a long time.

What I do is buy the tire online by size first (as with shoes, if it
doesn't fit, it's useless) and then by load range (you can go up but not
down), and then by the speed rating (again, you can go up, but not down,
although going down isn't any big deal on speed ratings) and then finally
by the traction treadwear temperature rating (where temperature is speed by
another metric and hence it's the least important if you drive like a
little old lady, which is how I drive and I suspect you do too).

My recommendation? Stop buying used tires (only because of what you don't
know about them) and buy tires that you know what you're getting where I
just arbitrarily looked for tires for a Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2002 by
clicking the buttons, which came up with a 185/65R14 90H XL rated tire at,
oh wow, prices went up... at $64/tire for the Eco Dynamic

I would have expected a cheap car like that with tiny tires to be around
$50 so maybe prices recently went up, but Simple Tire _always_ has sales.

> I don't bat
> an eye at sidewall cracks unless I'm on for a 6+ hour road trip (always
> keep a full-size spare).

Heh heh heh... if you only knew how far I wear my tread down (I start to
"bat an eye" when I can see the cloth belts!) where I happen to know that
the _dry_ traction increases as the tread wears down, so I'm with you on
not worrying all that much about tires.
<https://i.postimg.cc/JzvTyjKg/mount18.jpg>

Bear in mind the common characteristic of the Apple newsgroup is that they
shit in their pants on every possible fear that any marketing organization
can fill them with - so they make _all_ their decisions based on fear.

The iKooks would shit in their pants if they saw these tires on their cars!
<https://i.postimg.cc/Hx2Fw0dK/mount03.jpg>

Me? I'm like you. I _start_ to worry when I see _steel_ belts sticking out,
and, in fact, that's a warning to me to get new ties pronto. Since we have
a rainy season, I also try to replace bald tires before the rains.
<https://i.postimg.cc/0NGXktgp/mount59.jpg>

Otherwise, I don't worry about almost-bald tires in the summer months,
although they are slightly more susceptible to punctures when there's no
tread left. Ask me how I know. <https://i.postimg.cc/FzGQY92V/mount51.jpg>
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On 3/5/2022 3:58 am, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>>> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a
>>> non-commercial vehicle?
>>
>> Not really necessary, but they do improve handling and increase traction.
>
> Bear in mind this is an _adult_ discussion below, devoid of marketing BS.
>
> There are scientific reasons what all these things do in terms of handling:
> a. Wider tread
> b. Lower profile
> c. Larger diameter
>
> If they come with the vehicle stock, then it's my observation that, in

Look at the *target market*. The manufacturer will put on the vehicle
what they think the public wants, not necessarily what is best for
*all-round use.

> general, the choice by the manufacturer makes sense; but if they're
> aftermarket choices, often, in my experience, they don't make sense.

Manufacturers are *market driven*.
>
> Like putting low-profile tires on a SUV.
> That makes no sense from a performance standpoint.

Low profile tyres make a lot of sense from a *highway* performance
standpoint. Low profile tyres make no sense at all in any sort of rough
road/off road scenario. So, for an *SUV*, standard profile tyres are a
better *compromise*.
>
> It's a "fashion" statement just as the green dunce cap is on tires.

Pretty much.
>
>> Manual tire changers are not expensive. The ones from Harbor Freight
>> are sufficient for home use.
>
> You need more than the tire changer since you need three different tools:
> a. First, you need the bead breaker
> b. Then, you need the manual tire changer
> c. Then you should add a static balancer
> All of which HF sells (and all of which I own), where the cost is offset
> after a few years, depending of course on how many tires you fix, flip
> rotate, and replace.
> The other tools needed are a vise grip (because the HF tire mounting bar
> twists in your hands, particularly when you have dish detergent around),
> two extra HF tire-mounting irons (for the really tough jobs when you can't
> get the lower bead into the deepest point of the rim), dish detergent spray
> (for obvious reasons), a schrader valve screwdriver, a valve installation
> lever (you don't need it for removal but for replacement), a valve filling
> tool (sans the schrader valve) and, the one optional tool that's super
> handy, a bead blaster (aka a bead bazooka) which saves a ton of time.
> <https://youtu.be/KkSZrDg7ZOg>
>
> For balancing, it's helpful to have the special tools for removal and
> replacement of the clip-on weights, but normal hand tools suffice.
> Likewise, it's helpful for patch plug repair to have a round buffer and
> tire bead spreader, but, again, normal power tools such as wire brushes and
> sandpaper drill fittings work just fine for home use.
>
> Bear in mind motorcycles require slightly different tools.
>
>> The issue remains that static balancing should be avoided. Read
>> <https://e-quipfix.co.uk/wheel-balancing-101-static-vs-dynamic-wheel-balancing/>.
>>
>
> If you read that article, which I don't think Steve actually read, you can
> see it says what I've been saying, which is just because the shop has the
> tools doesn't mean the shop properly mounts and balances your wheels and
> tires using those fancy tools.
>
> This is a direct quote from Steve's link above:
> As an engineer, I often attend to sites with reports of a faulty wheel
> balancer. The general complaint is "... the machine needs calibrating",
> and this diagnosis usually derived from frequent customer "comebacks" or
> that operatives are repeatedly "chasing weights."
>
> And although on some occasions the wheel balancer does actually have an
> issue or requires calibration, you would be surprised how often the
> issues come down to operator error. Which is bit disconcerting to think
> about considering the number of wheels they have most likely worked on
> previously."
>
> While just as with nitrogen in tires I have no problem with the fact that
> it's being done, for free... as I'm never saying that it does harm.
>
> The problem I have is _charging_ people for the hokus pokus that they don't
> need, where almost everyone who doesn't balance their own wheels like I do
> wouldn't know that you _can_ get a perfectly good balance that way.
>
> And never forget, the _test_ for dynamic balance is _always_ free.
>
> The problem with people like Steve making proclamations that are based
> _purely_ on glossy marketing brochures is that people like Steve have never
> even once in their entire lives done what they say can't be done.
>
> People like Steve who have never done it & yet who feel they completely
> know how it can be done are therefore, almost always wrong as a result of
> their lack of knowledge (and in their total trust in marketing gimmicks).
>
> The "requirement" for a dynamic balance is a marketing gimmick.
> The "test" for dynamic balance is _always_ free anywhere in the world.
>
> Prove me wrong.
>
>> Not many home mechanics are going to spend the money on a dynamic
>> wheel balancer, but it's extremely foolish to balance vehicle tires
>> using a static balancer.
>
> Again, Steve has never done it while I have, and more to the point of
> Steve's ignorance, Steve is only quoting MARKETING bullshit to back up his
> claims.
>
> I've got nothing against dynamic balancing, mind you (except that they do
> it wrong in terms of proper initial positioning), but I also know that the
> test for proper dynamic balance is _always_ free everywhere in the world.
>
> I also know that if the vehicle fails that free dynamic balancing test,
> then that _one_ wheel (isolating it is a bitch sometimes though) can be
> brought to Costco in California for a $5 dynamic balance, last I checked.
>
> And yes, Costco will do it even for tires they didn't mount (based on my
> last check which, admittedly was years ago as I've always _passed_ the free
> dynamic balance test after having mounted & balanced my own tires at home).
>
>> There's no upside to mounting your own tires when you then have to
>> take the them to somewhere that they can be properly balanced.
>
> Steve has _never_ mounted and balanced tires in his entire life.
>
> I'm not asking Steve to start mounting and balancing tires himself; but I
> am asking Steve to explain, with facts, and without quoting pure marketing
> bullshit, why he feels that a proper dynamic balance can't be achieved at
> home, particularly when the test for dynamic balance is always free, no
> matter where you are in the world.
>
> This is an _adult_ concept about adult comprehensive skills.
>
> Can Steve (or anyone) bolster that belief system using scientific evidence
> that does NOT come from some MARKETING outfit trying to sell dynamic
> balancing?
>
> Can he or not?
> That is the adult question to ask.
>
> I'll read _everything_ anyone posts to back up their claim that you can't
> achieve proper balance of your wheels and tires at home.

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 3 May 2022 05:33 UTC

On 3/5/2022 2:27 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-02 7:34 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 9:48, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When you say a "static" balancer, do you mean a bubble balancer? I've
>>>> seen some used shop equipment come up for sale on FB Marketplace and
>>>> Craigslist before, still usually out of my preferred price range
>>>> (cheap).
>>>
>>> The problem that anyone who has never worked on cars has with the term
>>> "dynamic balancing" is they fall prey to the fear-based marketing.
>>>
>>> Harbor Freight also sells a crappy bead breaker tool, which isn't
>>> designed
>>> for larger tires, but which works for those bigger SUV tires if you
>>> put a
>>> wooden board on it to "extend" its base as you step on the board to keep
>>> the bead breaker from tipping backward on those larger diameter tires.
>>
>> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a
>> non-commercial vehicle?  I don't think I've ever had a vehicle (I've
>> owned well over 30 vehicles) with a larger than 15 inch diameter
>> tire.  That includes my F-150 and C10 trucks.  My '97 Chrysler LHS
>> *might* have had 16" tires, at the largest.  I hate needlessly large
>> modern trucks and SUV's.
>
> You mean a 15" diameter WHEEL, don't you?
>
> :-)
>
> I'm kind of with you about needlessly large trucks, etc.
>
> My brother and I at one time each owned a RAM 1500, but mine was a 1998,
> while his was a 2017 or 2018.
>
> The difference in size was startling.
>
> But larger wheels do have their place.
>
> Larger wheels on high performance vehicles allow for larger brakes, and
> while larger brakes won't actually stop you any quicker for a single
> stop, their greater heat capacity will mean they fade less when doing
> multiple stops/slowings.

Larger wheels with an overall larger diameter also negotiate potholed
roads better than smaller diameter wheels. As a person who owned the
original Minis with 10 inch wheels, I speak from experience. ;-)

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Xeno

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 3 May 2022 05:34 UTC

On 3/5/2022 11:24 am, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 5/2/2022 12:27, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-02 7:34 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is a tire larger than 18 inches ever necessary for a
>>> non-commercial vehicle?  I don't think I've ever had a vehicle (I've
>>> owned well over 30 vehicles) with a larger than 15 inch diameter
>>> tire.  That includes my F-150 and C10 trucks.  My '97 Chrysler LHS
>>> *might* have had 16" tires, at the largest.  I hate needlessly large
>>> modern trucks and SUV's.
>>
>> You mean a 15" diameter WHEEL, don't you?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Larger wheels on high performance vehicles allow for larger brakes, and
>> while larger brakes won't actually stop you any quicker for a single
>> stop, their greater heat capacity will mean they fade less when doing
>> multiple stops/slowings.
>
> Eh, I don't know, I guess I'm biased.  I drive old beaters; most of my
> cars are pre-1990.

I haven't had a pre-1990 car since 1995. Now I don't even want a pre
2020 car.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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