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* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesSylvia Else
+* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDean Markley
|`* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDoctor Who
| `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDean Markley
|  `- Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDoctor Who
+* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesSylvia Else
|`* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesSylvia Else
| `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDoctor Who
|  `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesOtto J. Makela
|   `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDoctor Who
|    +* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDean Markley
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|    ||`- Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDean Markley
|    |`- Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposespnn calmagorod
|    `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesOtto J. Makela
|     `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDoctor Who
|      `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesOtto J. Makela
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`* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDoctor Who
 `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesOtto J. Makela
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  |    `* Re: The primary hammers to use for PNN advertising for sale purposesDean Markley
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 by: Sylvia Else - Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:17 UTC

On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>
> 1) The PNN engine is eternal
> 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever

Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
how they're charged.

Sylvia

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 by: Dean Markley - Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:21 UTC

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:11:04 AM UTC-4, pnn calmagorod wrote:
> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
> > On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
> > >
> > > 1) The PNN engine is eternal
> > > 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
> > Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
> > how they're charged.
> What problem!!
> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
> You never change the PNN engine!
>
> on the other side the archeological rocketry and its comic bins to lose :-)
>
> E.Laureti
>

We all understand now that you are nothing but a scammer trying to fleece money from people. Don't go away mad, just go away.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:21 UTC

On 25-Mar-22 5:11 pm, pnn calmagorod wrote:
> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>> On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>
>>> 1) The PNN engine is eternal
>>> 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
>> Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
>> how they're charged.
>
> What problem!!
> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
> You never change the PNN engine!

Pretty sure changing lithium batteries on the way to mars is not practical.

Sylvia

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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:32 UTC

On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:17:34 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>
>> 1) The PNN engine is eternal
>> 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
>
>Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
>how they're charged.
>
>Sylvia

you know nothing about graphene batteries, that is:

1) expected life 45 years

2) more that 1000000 cycles charge/discharge.

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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:33 UTC

On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:21:54 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:11:04 AM UTC-4, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>> > On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>> > >
>> > > 1) The PNN engine is eternal
>> > > 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
>> > Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
>> > how they're charged.
>> What problem!!
>> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
>> You never change the PNN engine!
>>
>> on the other side the archeological rocketry and its comic bins to lose :-)
>>
>> E.Laureti
>>
>
>We all understand now that you are nothing but a scammer trying to fleece money from people. Don't go away mad, just go away.

you just smell like poo!

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 by: Dean Markley - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:31 UTC

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 6:33:33 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:21:54 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
> <dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:11:04 AM UTC-4, pnn calmagorod wrote:
> >> Il giorno venerdě 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
> >> > On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1) The PNN engine is eternal
> >> > > 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
> >> > Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
> >> > how they're charged.
> >> What problem!!
> >> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
> >> You never change the PNN engine!
> >>
> >> on the other side the archeological rocketry and its comic bins to lose :-)
> >>
> >> E.Laureti
> >>
> >
> >We all understand now that you are nothing but a scammer trying to fleece money from people. Don't go away mad, just go away.
> you just smell like poo!

And you write like a 5 year old.

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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:42 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:31:34 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 6:33:33 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:21:54 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
>> <dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:11:04 AM UTC-4, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>> >> Il giorno venerd? 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>> >> > On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 1) The PNN engine is eternal
>> >> > > 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
>> >> > Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
>> >> > how they're charged.
>> >> What problem!!
>> >> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
>> >> You never change the PNN engine!
>> >>
>> >> on the other side the archeological rocketry and its comic bins to lose :-)
>> >>
>> >> E.Laureti
>> >>
>> >
>> >We all understand now that you are nothing but a scammer trying to fleece money from people. Don't go away mad, just go away.
>> you just smell like poo!
>
>And you write like a 5 year old.

absolutely!

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:49 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> you know nothing about graphene batteries, that is:
> 1) expected life 45 years
> 2) more that 1000000 cycles charge/discharge.

If only they were actually manufactured and available to buy,
and not something that might be theoretically possible.
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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:24 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:49:37 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> you know nothing about graphene batteries, that is:
>> 1) expected life 45 years
>> 2) more that 1000000 cycles charge/discharge.
>
>If only they were actually manufactured and available to buy,
>and not something that might be theoretically possible.

http://shop.gs9.it/supercondensatori/184-sirius-1-12.html

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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:32 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:49:37 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> you know nothing about graphene batteries, that is:
>> 1) expected life 45 years
>> 2) more that 1000000 cycles charge/discharge.
>
>If only they were actually manufactured and available to buy,
>and not something that might be theoretically possible.

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 19:26 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:49:37 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>> you know nothing about graphene batteries, that is:
>>> 1) expected life 45 years
>>> 2) more that 1000000 cycles charge/discharge.
>>
>>If only they were actually manufactured and available to buy,
>>and not something that might be theoretically possible.
>
> http://shop.gs9.it/supercondensatori/184-sirius-1-12.html

The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.

Here is the manual:

https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf

PS. Graphene-laced LiPo batteries seem to already be somewhat available,
but their specs certainly aren't what you claimed.

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 by: Doctor Who - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 06:00 UTC

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:49:37 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>> you know nothing about graphene batteries, that is:
>>>> 1) expected life 45 years
>>>> 2) more that 1000000 cycles charge/discharge.
>>>
>>>If only they were actually manufactured and available to buy,
>>>and not something that might be theoretically possible.
>>
>> http://shop.gs9.it/supercondensatori/184-sirius-1-12.html
>
>The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
>capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
>with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
>rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
>
>Here is the manual:
>
>https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
>
>PS. Graphene-laced LiPo batteries seem to already be somewhat available,
>but their specs certainly aren't what you claimed.

You are mistaken
It IS a graphene battery !

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:45 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>> The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
>> capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
>> with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
>> rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
>>
>> Here is the manual:
>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
>
> You are mistaken
> It IS a graphene battery !

No, it is not. Read The Fine Manual. If you keep insisting it is a
battery you are either deluded or mendacious.
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 by: Doctor Who - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:49 UTC

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:45:53 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>> The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
>>> capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
>>> with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
>>> rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
>>>
>>> Here is the manual:
>>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
>>
>> You are mistaken
>> It IS a graphene battery !
>
>No, it is not. Read The Fine Manual. If you keep insisting it is a
>battery you are either deluded or mendacious.

how do you call something that you can charge and then gives energy
back to you?

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 by: Dean Markley - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:55 UTC

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 5:49:31 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:45:53 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>
> >Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
> >>> The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
> >>> capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
> >>> with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
> >>> rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
> >>>
> >>> Here is the manual:
> >>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
> >>
> >> You are mistaken
> >> It IS a graphene battery !
> >
> >No, it is not. Read The Fine Manual. If you keep insisting it is a
> >battery you are either deluded or mendacious.
> how do you call something that you can charge and then gives energy
> back to you?

So you do not know the difference between a battery and a capacitor? You are not a very good fraud.

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 by: Doctor Who - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 15:42 UTC

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 04:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 5:49:31 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:45:53 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>
>> >Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>> >>> The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
>> >>> capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
>> >>> with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
>> >>> rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is the manual:
>> >>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
>> >>
>> >> You are mistaken
>> >> It IS a graphene battery !
>> >
>> >No, it is not. Read The Fine Manual. If you keep insisting it is a
>> >battery you are either deluded or mendacious.
>> how do you call something that you can charge and then gives energy
>> back to you?
>
>So you do not know the difference between a battery and a capacitor? You are not a very good fraud.

capacitor or not capacitor they are made of graphene, and the expected
life is 45 years, 1000000 cycles.

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 by: Dean Markley - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 18:12 UTC

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 11:42:27 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 04:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
> <dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 5:49:31 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
> >> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:45:53 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
> >> >>> The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
> >> >>> capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
> >> >>> with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
> >> >>> rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Here is the manual:
> >> >>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
> >> >>
> >> >> You are mistaken
> >> >> It IS a graphene battery !
> >> >
> >> >No, it is not. Read The Fine Manual. If you keep insisting it is a
> >> >battery you are either deluded or mendacious.
> >> how do you call something that you can charge and then gives energy
> >> back to you?
> >
> >So you do not know the difference between a battery and a capacitor? You are not a very good fraud.
> capacitor or not capacitor they are made of graphene, and the expected
> life is 45 years, 1000000 cycles.

You evaded the question so I conclude you do not know the difference. I find it astounding that you can write stuff like this and yet you don't even seem to have the skills to use google to find an answer.

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On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:12:08 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 11:42:27 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 04:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
>> <dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 5:49:31 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:45:53 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>> >> >>> The Kilowatt labs Sirius 1-12 is not a "graphene battery", it is a
>> >> >>> capacitor. The claimed specs do match what you said, but confusing it
>> >> >>> with a pretty new (almost-there) battery technology is pretty much a
>> >> >>> rookie mistake. Or intentional lying.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Here is the manual:
>> >> >>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You are mistaken
>> >> >> It IS a graphene battery !
>> >> >
>> >> >No, it is not. Read The Fine Manual. If you keep insisting it is a
>> >> >battery you are either deluded or mendacious.
>> >> how do you call something that you can charge and then gives energy
>> >> back to you?
>> >
>> >So you do not know the difference between a battery and a capacitor? You are not a very good fraud.
>> capacitor or not capacitor they are made of graphene, and the expected
>> life is 45 years, 1000000 cycles.
>
>You evaded the question so I conclude you do not know the difference. I find it astounding that you can write stuff like this and yet you don't even seem to have the skills to use google to find an answer.

prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

that is what you deserve!

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:41 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

>>> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:26:27 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>> >>> Here is the manual:
>>> >>> https://kilowattlabs.com/wp-content/themes/KiloWatt-Labs/Sirius_Hardware_Manuals_Version_1/Low/KiloWatt%20Labs%20Sirius-User%20Manual-1000-12-B-0.6C-A-Gv062019.pdf
>
> capacitor or not capacitor they are made of graphene, and the expected
> life is 45 years, 1000000 cycles.

This technology does not involve graphene. RTFM.

Graphene-laced LiPo batteries are a different thing,
technology which is becoming available just now.

https://investingnews.com/daily/tech-investing/nanoscience-investing/graphene-investing/graphene-battery-tesla/

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:23 UTC

On 26-Mar-22 3:09 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 13:22:01 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>> On 25-Mar-22 5:11 pm, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>>>> On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The PNN engine is eternal
>>>>> 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
>>>> Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
>>>> how they're charged.
>>>
>>> What problem!!
>>> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
>>> You never change the PNN engine!
>> Pretty sure changing lithium batteries on the way to mars is not practical.
>
> Jes the best way to use PNN for Proxima Centaury is a nuclear reactor :-)
>
> Give us 6 kilopower reactors :-) and not colonize the unuseful Mars but earth like planets years light away
>
> E.Laureti

Still doesn't address the problem of your drive not working.

Sylvia.

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On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 09:23:10 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 26-Mar-22 3:09 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 13:22:01 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>>> On 25-Mar-22 5:11 pm, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>> Il giorno venerdì 25 marzo 2022 alle 01:17:36 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
>>>>> On 25-Mar-22 9:51 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) The PNN engine is eternal
>>>>>> 2) If you recharge the lithium batteries with solar panels it lasts forever
>>>>> Lithium ion batteries have a limited life, and wear our regardless of
>>>>> how they're charged.
>>>>
>>>> What problem!!
>>>> Change Lithium batteries or use orhers or use nuclear reactor (with tons of uranium as reserve)
>>>> You never change the PNN engine!
>>> Pretty sure changing lithium batteries on the way to mars is not practical.
>>
>> Jes the best way to use PNN for Proxima Centaury is a nuclear reactor :-)
>>
>> Give us 6 kilopower reactors :-) and not colonize the unuseful Mars but earth like planets years light away
>>
>> E.Laureti
>
>Still doesn't address the problem of your drive not working.
>
>Sylvia.

prove it.

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 09:27 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>> Still doesn't address the problem of your drive not working.
> prove it.

You misunderstand how these things work, it's your job to show it works.

Also, if there is a patent (as you repeatedly seem to have claimed),
just give us the number and we'll look it up.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 12:27:23 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>> Still doesn't address the problem of your drive not working.
>> prove it.
>
>You misunderstand how these things work, it's your job to show it works.
>
>Also, if there is a patent (as you repeatedly seem to have claimed),
>just give us the number and we'll look it up.

we have shown that it works at the pnn road show on 31/10/2021.

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 by: Dean Markley - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 19:08 UTC

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:20:58 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 12:27:23 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>
> >Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Still doesn't address the problem of your drive not working.
> >> prove it.
> >
> >You misunderstand how these things work, it's your job to show it works.
> >
> >Also, if there is a patent (as you repeatedly seem to have claimed),
> >just give us the number and we'll look it up.
> we have shown that it works at the pnn road show on 31/10/2021.

Is PNN an acronym for Probably Not Needed?

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 by: Doctor Who - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 14:27 UTC

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 12:08:02 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:20:58 AM UTC-4, Doctor Who wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 12:27:23 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>
>> >Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
>> >>> Still doesn't address the problem of your drive not working.
>> >> prove it.
>> >
>> >You misunderstand how these things work, it's your job to show it works.
>> >
>> >Also, if there is a patent (as you repeatedly seem to have claimed),
>> >just give us the number and we'll look it up.
>> we have shown that it works at the pnn road show on 31/10/2021.
>
>Is PNN an acronym for Probably Not Needed?

in english: Non Newtonian Propulsion

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