An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received an
email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.

She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.

Anyone else get that email today?
What does it mean?

Here's the email forwarded to me with the name removed.
Is it real? Is it a scam? Does it have anything to do with YouTube TV?

> From: YouTube <no-reply@youtube.com>
> Date: October 21, 2022
> Subject: Introducing: YouTube Handles
> Reply-To: YouTube <no-reply@youtube.com>
>
> YouTube Creator
> YouTube is introducing handles to make it easier for people to find and connect with each other.
>
>
> We're writing to let you know that over the coming weeks YouTube will be introducing handles to make it easier for members of the community to find and connect with each other. Your handle will be unique to your channel and will be how people mention you in comments, community posts, and more.
>
> Here's what you need to know:
>
> We're gradually rolling out the ability to choose a handle for all channels over the coming weeks, and you will receive another email and a notification in YouTube Studio when you're able to choose yours. In most cases, if you already have a personalized URL for your channel, we've reserved this for you as your handle. If you want a different handle from the one we've reserved, you can change it. If you don't already have a personalized URL today, you'll also be able to choose a handle for your channel.
>
> Starting on November 14, 2022, if you haven't yet selected a handle for your channel, YouTube will automatically assign you a handle, which you can change in YouTube Studio if you'd like.
>
> In the meantime, learn more about handles and all the things you'll be able to do with them:
> LEARN MORE
>
> Sincerely,
> The YouTube team
> You received this mandatory email service announcement to update you about important changes to your YouTube channel or account.

I got this e-mail last week, but it didn't let me get my handle yet.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Jerry <Jerry@jerrythinks.com> wrote:
> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received an
> email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.

> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.

> Anyone else get that email today?
> What does it mean?

> Here's the email forwarded to me with the name removed.
> Is it real? Is it a scam? Does it have anything to do with YouTube TV?

> > From: YouTube <no-reply@youtube.com>
> > Date: October 21, 2022
> > Subject: Introducing: YouTube Handles
> > Reply-To: YouTube <no-reply@youtube.com>
> >
> > YouTube Creator
> > YouTube is introducing handles to make it easier for people to find and connect with each other.
> >
> >
> > We're writing to let you know that over the coming weeks YouTube will be introducing handles to make it easier for members of the community to find and connect with each other. Your handle will be unique to your channel and will be how people mention you in comments, community posts, and more.
> >
> > Here's what you need to know:
> >
> > We're gradually rolling out the ability to choose a handle for all channels over the coming weeks, and you will receive another email and a notification in YouTube Studio when you're able to choose yours. In most cases, if you already have a personalized URL for your channel, we've reserved this for you as your handle. If you want a different handle from the one we've reserved, you can change it. If you don't already have a personalized URL today, you'll also be able to choose a handle for your channel.
> >
> > Starting on November 14, 2022, if you haven't yet selected a handle for your channel, YouTube will automatically assign you a handle, which you can change in YouTube Studio if you'd like.
> >
> > In the meantime, learn more about handles and all the things you'll be able to do with them:
> > LEARN MORE
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The YouTube team
> > You received this mandatory email service announcement to update you about important changes to your YouTube channel or account.

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On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 00:08:31 +0000, Ant wrote:

> I got this e-mail last week, but it didn't let me get my handle yet.

Thank you for that confirmation that it's not a scam.
Do you have YouTube Premium or YouTube TV?

Jerry wrote:

> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received
> an email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.
>
> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.
>
> Anyone else get that email today?
> What does it mean?

In part, it's to help reduce fraud. Things like people using phone numbers as
part of their usenames, duplicates and imitations (Microsoft -> Micro$oft),
etc. (I'm not sure why they didn't just do this with the normal usernames,
but whatever.)

ThioJoe did a video that explains it pretty well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1RZP5Nwh7Y

(Ignore the click-bait title, he's a master of those.)

--
Sometimes the truth is falser than any lie.

Jerry wrote:
> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received an
> email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.
>
> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.
>
> Anyone else get that email today?
> What does it mean?

Dunno. Don't give a damn either. I've used YouTube for many, many years
when it was still worthwhile, but gave up on it some 1-2 years ago and
removed all my content.
Whatever their "handles" mean, I have no doubt that their only function
is to get more grip on the users and to squeeze more personal information
out of them. In any case I'm not interested in their "handles' and any
mail that may result from it will be auto-discarded as spam.

>
> Here's the email forwarded to me with the name removed.
> Is it real? Is it a scam? Does it have anything to do with YouTube TV?
>
>> From: YouTube <no-reply@youtube.com>
>> Date: October 21, 2022
>> Subject: Introducing: YouTube Handles
>> Reply-To: YouTube <no-reply@youtube.com>
>>
>> YouTube Creator
>> YouTube is introducing handles to make it easier for people to find and
>> connect with each other.

The usual excuse. I've enough means to find and connect to people whom I
know or whom I may be interested in, so I don't need YouTube for that.

-p

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 13:09:30 +0200, Piet
<www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:

>Jerry wrote:
>> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received an
>> email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.
>>
>> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.
>>
>> Anyone else get that email today?
>> What does it mean?
>
>Dunno. Don't give a damn either. I've used YouTube for many, many years
>when it was still worthwhile, but gave up on it some 1-2 years ago and
>removed all my content.

Each to his own, of course, but I use YouTube (on my desktop computer,
not my phone) and like it a lot.

I have no content of my own, but here's my primary use: I'm a student
of the classical guitar, and whenever I start to learn a new piece, I
go to YouTube to listen and watch others play it, and learn from them.

Auric__ wrote:
> In part, it's to help reduce fraud. Things like people using phone numbers as
> part of their usenames, duplicates and imitations (Microsoft -> Micro$oft),
> etc. (I'm not sure why they didn't just do this with the normal usernames,
> but whatever.)
>
> ThioJoe did a video that explains it pretty well:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1RZP5Nwh7Y
>
> (Ignore the click-bait title, he's a master of those.)

Apparently everyone received the email who has a YouTube product.
<https://youtu.be/-1RZP5Nwh7Y?t=349>

Ken Blake wrote:

> Each to his own, of course, but I use YouTube (on my desktop computer,
> not my phone) and like it a lot.

On Android, if you install the official NewPipe YouTube FOSS client
<https://newpipe.net/>
Then you can subscribe anonymously & never see any YouTube advertisements.

> I have no content of my own, but here's my primary use: I'm a student
> of the classical guitar, and whenever I start to learn a new piece, I
> go to YouTube to listen and watch others play it, and learn from them.

With Android NewPipe installed, you can save the media so that you can
replay it using better stop/start/slow/fast/etc., controls for repeats.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/>

Of course NewPipe can easily rip just the audio in any format you please.
<https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe>

As always, the software I recommend is free & ad free, usually google gsf
free, often FOSS apps and which are usually acknowledged to be the best of
the best in terms of their stated functionality (which takes no small
amount of intelligence and searching skills and testing efforts, all done
in advance before I recommend software to be helpful to people on Usenet).
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which, in this case, is legitimate software that replaces the functionality
of the proprietary Google YouTube client in every way possible - and more.

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:28:30 +0100, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> <https://newpipe.net/>
> Then you can subscribe anonymously & never see any YouTube advertisements.

Do you have to subscribe to the channel to "never see advertisements?"

Jerry <Jerry@JerryThinks.com> wrote:

> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content
> received an email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles,
> whatever that is.
>
> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.

https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/introducing-handles-a-new-way-to-identify-your-youtube-channel/

I don't prattle at Youtube. The most I'll do there is add a comment to
a video usually to inquire for more info or make a correction which is
addressed to the video author, not to engage other commentors. So, YT
handles is of no interest to me. I already have a nym there. I don't
need another.

Ken Blake wrote:
> Piet wrote:
>> Jerry wrote:
>>> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received an
>>> email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.
>>>
>>> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.
>>>
>>> Anyone else get that email today?
>>> What does it mean?
>>
>> Dunno. Don't give a damn either. I've used YouTube for many, many years
>> when it was still worthwhile, but gave up on it some 1-2 years ago and
>> removed all my content.
>
> Each to his own, of course, but I use YouTube (on my desktop computer,
> not my phone) and like it a lot.
>
> I have no content of my own, but here's my primary use: I'm a student
> of the classical guitar, and whenever I start to learn a new piece, I
> go to YouTube to listen and watch others play it, and learn from them.

Addition to my comment: I didn't completely give up on YT as such,
but I only use it occasionally and only passively: to view a old
and/or classical singing video. Besides. I'm far too old to learn
anything new. ;-)
Your situation is entirely different, and I guess that in your case
I might use it frequently. But we both use it only passively.
I presume you'll like this "beauty on a guitar", and it might even
be one of your favourites. It certainly is one of mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F2IV49Lw4k

-p

VanguardLH wrote:
> already have a nym there. I don't need another.

Same for me. It may be quite rusty though, but then I
can always claim it's made of corten steel. :-)

-p

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Jerry <Jerry@jerrythinks.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 00:08:31 +0000, Ant wrote:

> > I got this e-mail last week, but it didn't let me get my handle yet.

> Thank you for that confirmation that it's not a scam.

I just got an e-mail about picking my handle. I'm keeping my old name.

> Do you have YouTube Premium or YouTube TV?

Neither. I use its free service.
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 21:19:44 +0200, Piet
<www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:

>Ken Blake wrote:
>> Piet wrote:
>>> Jerry wrote:
>>>> An old friend of mine who has YouTube TV but no YouTube content received an
>>>> email today saying she was getting YouTube Handles, whatever that is.
>>>>
>>>> She asked me about it and I said I never heard of it until today.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else get that email today?
>>>> What does it mean?
>>>
>>> Dunno. Don't give a damn either. I've used YouTube for many, many years
>>> when it was still worthwhile, but gave up on it some 1-2 years ago and
>>> removed all my content.
>>
>> Each to his own, of course, but I use YouTube (on my desktop computer,
>> not my phone) and like it a lot.
>>
>> I have no content of my own, but here's my primary use: I'm a student
>> of the classical guitar, and whenever I start to learn a new piece, I
>> go to YouTube to listen and watch others play it, and learn from them.
>
>Addition to my comment: I didn't completely give up on YT as such,
>but I only use it occasionally and only passively: to view a old
>and/or classical singing video. Besides. I'm far too old to learn
>anything new. ;-)
>Your situation is entirely different, and I guess that in your case
>I might use it frequently. But we both use it only passively.
>I presume you'll like this "beauty on a guitar", and it might even
>be one of your favourites. It certainly is one of mine:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F2IV49Lw4k

Recuerdos de la Alhambra. It's one of the most well-known and one of
the most well-liked classical guitar pieces. I don't know that YouTube
instance of it though.

It's not my very favorite, but it's one that I also like it a lot. I
haven't played it in a while, but I spent several months practicing it
every day. It isn't very difficult to play, except that it's
difficult, at least for me, to play the tremolo sufficiently fast. I
got faster and faster back when I was practicing it, but I'm sure I'd
be slower now.

However Tarrega is my favorite guitar composer. My favorite piece of
his is Capricho Arabe, which I also play, but nowhere near as well as
my favorite performance, by Marcin Dylla, on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Z56kWNVfs

Another well-known Tarrega piece I play is Adelita, which is much
easier and I play much better than either of the other two:

Here's one of many very good performances of it on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeCAzw3leqs

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:32:02 +0000, Ant wrote:

>> Do you have YouTube Premium or YouTube TV?
>
> Neither. I use its free service.

I use the YouTube free service also but I didn't get the email.
Maybe because I've never logged into a YouTube Account?

I'm wondering why you got it and she got it but not me.
Do you log into YouTube ever?

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Jerry <Jerry@jerrythinks.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:32:02 +0000, Ant wrote:

> >> Do you have YouTube Premium or YouTube TV?
> >
> > Neither. I use its free service.

> I use the YouTube free service also but I didn't get the email.
> Maybe because I've never logged into a YouTube Account?

I always use my account. Did you ever upload videos and post comments in your account?

> I'm wondering why you got it and she got it but not me.
> Do you log into YouTube ever?

I am always using my account.
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dan wrote:

>> <https://newpipe.net/>
>> Then you can subscribe anonymously & never see any YouTube advertisements.
>
> Do you have to subscribe to the channel to "never see advertisements?"

My bad for intimating that subscriptions & ads are somehow intertwined.
They're not.

Everything else below is a heart-felt detail on the utility of FOSS Google
YouTube (and other Google products) client replacements.

The NewPipe FOSS YouTube client has no ads itself.
And somehow it removes (or prevents) Google-inserted ads completely.

And, completely separately, if you want to subscribe anonymously to any
channel, you can do so (or you can subscribe with a bona-fide Google ID).

The FOSS NewPipe YouTube client is a "perfect replacement" to the Google
YouTube client in that NewPipe does _everything_ you want a client to do.

That's why Google likely hates that this FOSS YouTube client exists, just
as Google likely hates that a FOSS Google Play Store client exists, just as
Google likely hates that a FOSS ungoogled Chromium web browser exists.

a. FOSS Google YouTube client <https://newpipe.net/>
b. FOSS Google Play Store client <https://auroraoss.com/>
c. FOSS unGoogled Chromium web browser
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoogled-chromium>
<https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/>

Notice that these are just _clients_ which means they obtain the _exact_
data and exact files that are on the Google repositories.

A lot of people "think" that these are somehow (magically?) separate
repositories for youtube videos and applications and web pages, but they're
not.

They're just clients.

Much as an FTP client can access any FTP server and much like mail user
agent (aka mail clients) can access any mail (SMTP/POP/IMAP) server, these
are simply FOSS replacements for the existing Google YouTube client, Google
Play Store client, and Chrome web browser.

They scrape the exact same data.

The only difference is that they do it the way Google hates.
That means they do it the way _you_ want it done.

As an example, when you use the FOSS Google Play Store clients, you can
_always_ have the APK itself auto-saved onto your phone or onto your hard
drive (if your phone is already mounted over Wi-Fi as a drive letter).

That way you can re-use that APK on _any_ Android phone on the planet.

Likewise with the FOSS YouTube client which allows you to download (or rip)
any video (or audio) onto your Android phone which is the same thing as
downloading it onto your desktop PC drive letter so you can play it on your
PC (or you can just mirror the phone onto your desktop or laptop PC).

There are some (usually on the Apple newsgroup because they hate
functionality) who claim it's "illegal" to have all this functionality at
your fingertips - but if it were, you can rest assured Google would have
looked at the source code and put a stop to this long ago (and clearly they
haven't as these products are well known to everyone who knows anything).

In summary, each of these products has a method to spoof the login into the
Google Account that is required to do certain things such as subscribe to a
YouTube channel or to download (and save) the APK to an app on the Google
Play Store.

In addition, _all_ these products are Google GSF free, free, ad free, and
most importantly, the YouTube client never shows google-inserted
advertisements ever.

They just work the way _you_ want them to work.
--
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which in this case is to explain the functionality of FOSS YouTube clients.

Bill wrote:

> Since it is my main source of viewing content on my tv, I don't think
> that the $11.99 they charge for "premium" is too bad (~30 cents a day).
> They say it's helps to pay the content providers, which is fair,--and
> as for me, I really hate the ads.

While voluntarily donating almost fifteen hundred dollars every decade to
Google for the privilege of not seeing ads is commendable, why not donate
that same $1,500 to the people who create the FOSS YouTube client instead?
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewPipe>

Who is more worthy of your fifteen hundred dollars?
<https://newpipe.net/donate/>

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 00:40:09 +0000, Ant wrote:

>> Do you log into YouTube ever?
>
> I am always using my account.

Then it may be the people who log into their Google YouTube account may be
who is getting that email as I've never logged into YouTube and I didn't
even know that I had an account (probably I don't have an account).

I go to Youtube.com from Firefox or from my YouTube app to watch videos.

Jerry wrote:

> I've never logged into YouTube and I didn't
> even know that I had an account (probably I don't have an account).
>
> I go to Youtube.com from Firefox or from my YouTube app to watch videos.

If you have a google account, you have a youtube account, if you're using the
youtube app on a phone, it's likely to be associated with a google account

IME if you visit youtube without being logged-in, the videos it recommends are
the absolute worst trash it has to offer ... by logging-in it learns the sort of
thing you like.

Andy Burns wrote:

> If you have a google account, you have a youtube account, if you're using the
> youtube app on a phone, it's likely to be associated with a google account

Just to be clear from the standpoint of functionality & privacy, the rather
strong words I would use to explain the mindset of people who do that is...

*Only an utter idiot would set up a smartphone to a mothership account*

I'd say the same thing about Apple except there isn't any other way on iOS.

At least Android (and Windows 10) works better & with more privacy
_without_ a mothership account set up inside the operating system setup.

Note: You can still have a Google Account for watching & subscribing to
YouTube videos or for reading/sending email _without_ the mothership setup.

>
> IME if you visit youtube without being logged-in, the videos it recommends are
> the absolute worst trash it has to offer ... by logging-in it learns the sort of
> thing you like.

That's yet another reason why the FOSS YouTube clients do _everything_
you'd want them to do in that you can set them up to display whatever
content _you_ content want displayed on your opening pages on Android.

As for setting up a mothership account on your smartphone, only iOS
requires it to be functional. Android doesn't even need it.

The only operating systems I know that require it are iOS and Windows 11
(although I'm not sure how bad macOS is on Apple's attack on privacy).
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which in this case is to admonish others NOT to set up mothership accounts.

On 26/10/2022 16:42, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
>> I've never logged into YouTube and I didn't
>> even know that I had an account (probably I don't have an account).
>>
>> I go to Youtube.com from Firefox or from my YouTube app to watch videos.
>
> If you have a google account, you have a youtube account, if you're
> using the youtube app on a phone, it's likely to be associated with a
> google account
>
> IME if you visit youtube without being logged-in, the videos it
> recommends are the absolute worst trash it has to offer ... by
> logging-in it learns the sort of thing you like.
>
>

Your experience seems different to mine.
I very rarely log in to Google & watch a lot of Youtube & don't see this
trash.
Perhaps it's because I am selective in what I ask to be shown.
:)

--
Regards
wasbit

On 26/10/2022 18:48, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> If you have a google account, you have a youtube account, if you're
>> using the youtube app on a phone, it's likely to be associated with a
>> google account
>
> Just to be clear from the standpoint of functionality & privacy, the rather
> strong words I would use to explain the mindset of people who do that is...
> *Only an utter idiot would set up a smartphone to a mothership account*
>
> I'd say the same thing about Apple except there isn't any other way on iOS.
>
> At least Android (and Windows 10) works better & with more privacy
> _without_ a mothership account set up inside the operating system setup.
>
> Note: You can still have a Google Account for watching & subscribing to
> YouTube videos or for reading/sending email _without_ the mothership setup.
>
>>
>> IME if you visit youtube without being logged-in, the videos it
>> recommends are the absolute worst trash it has to offer ... by
>> logging-in it learns the sort of thing you like.
>
> That's yet another reason why the FOSS YouTube clients do _everything_
> you'd want them to do in that you can set them up to display whatever
> content _you_ content want displayed on your opening pages on Android.
>
> As for setting up a mothership account on your smartphone, only iOS
> requires it to be functional. Android doesn't even need it.
>
> The only operating systems I know that require it are iOS and Windows 11
> (although I'm not sure how bad macOS is on Apple's attack on privacy).

I do wish you would use the correct terminology. It makes it so much
easier to follow what is being said.

--
Regards
wasbit

wasbit wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> IME if you visit youtube without being logged-in, the videos it recommends are
>> the absolute worst trash it has to offer ... by logging-in it learns the sort
>> of thing you like.
>
> Your experience seems different to mine.
> I very rarely log in to Google & watch a lot of Youtube & don't see this trash.
> Perhaps it's because I am selective in what I ask to be shown.
> :)

Maybe you allow cookies? Then perhaps it can remember who you are and what you
like, I nuke all cookies.

When I visit youtube without signing it, it seems the recommended videos are
mostly from MrBeast, SSSniperWolf, SideMen, FailArmy, PrimitiveTechnology etc

wasbit wrote:

> I do wish you would use the correct terminology. It makes it so much
> easier to follow what is being said.

I'm not sure what terminology you're asking about, but if you're objecting
to the terminology of "mothership stalking account" here's a clarification:

On iOS, you _must_ have an AppleID in order to download software.
On Android, the GoogleID buys you nothing you don't already have.
On Windows 10, the MicrosoftID buys you nothing you don't already have.
On Windows 11, the MicrosoftID seems to follow the Apple requirement.

Is that professional summary clear enough?
Below is a more direct summary, with emphasis on the stalking aspect:

On iOS, that mothership stalking account is required for functionality.
On Windows 11, that OEM stalking account is also apparently required.

It's only on Android & Windows 10 (and below) where logging into an
Internet OEM mothership stalking account is not needed for functionality.

Or were you asking about a different terminology?
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
to summarize which common consumer operating systems require OEM accounts.

Andy Burns wrote:

> When I visit youtube without signing it, it seems the recommended videos are
> mostly from MrBeast, SSSniperWolf, SideMen, FailArmy, PrimitiveTechnology etc

While I usually view,download,rip,subscribe,etc., copious YouTube content
(usually scientific in nature) via a dedicated FOSS YouTube client...

.... I just tested Andy's suggestion of going to YouTube.com for the first
time on a typical newly installed Windows web browser (Firefox).

What I was confronted with as "recommended" content coincided with Andy's
"trash" characterization (where I normally watch documentary content only).

Here is an illustrative screenshot from just a moment ago from Windows:
<https://i.postimg.cc/DwFCWNSz/youtube.jpg>

By way of comparison, with a dedicated FOSS YouTube client, you see
whatever it is that _you_ want to see when you visit that same site.
<https://newpipe.net/>
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Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which in this case was to concur with Andy Burns on what he sees in YT.