On 11/18/2022 6:44 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> *Why use the GMail app?*

Actually I usually use the Chrome browser (and not the Gmail app) to
peruse my email. I generally get near 100 emails a day, mostly from my
community's egroup about various local goings-on. (We're getting near
7000 houses now and still building so it's a busy group.) Anyway with
the Browser I can read the first line of each email to see if I want to
open it or not. If not I can delete all the unwanted with just a few
clicks. With the Gmail app I have to click each email separately to
delete it. 75 to 100 clicks a day quickly becomes a PITA...

However I still do use the Gmail app for my saved databases. Addresses,
books read, passwords (encrypted), birthdays and anniversaries, etc. I
store them as permanent text drafts, updated as necessary, but never
sent. I find it handy in that it's available and current on all my devices.

> What's wrong with a privacy aware mail user agent instead? Something
> like FairMail for example? <https://email.faircode.eu/>

Nothing. In my case I was assimilated (a Star Trek episode) long ago. My
credit card company knows all I buy and where I eat. Walmart knows about
my medicines and shots. My doctors databases keep very personal info.
The state, my banks, the feds, my securities online and Turbotax know
all my financial info. On and on. So if Google want's to spy on a bunch
of us old folks emails so be it...

sms wrote:

> In China they hate cash but until
> late 2019 they didn't allow foreigners to use WeChatPay or AliPay and
> when you tried to pay cash they looked at like you were from another
> planet, and sometimes could not take cash.

It's my hope people can think past what MARKETING continually feeds them.

The main thought point about biometrics I am simply asking people to open
their minds to is _why_ do they feel desperate to use those biometrics.

Making people _think_ is why I ask them which slum they live in that they
feel desperate for 24/7 constant lock/unlock of their physical cellphone.

Why do you feel you _need_ incessant biometrick lock/unlock of a phone?
Why?

IMHO, biometrics are highly promoted by MARKETING for one key reason.
If you don't know the reason, then you will never understand biometrics.

HINT: Ever wonder why nospam always says Apple biometrics are better?
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Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to ask people to think about what they're fed.

AJL wrote:

>> *Why use the GMail app?*
>
> Actually I usually use the Chrome browser (and not the Gmail app) to
> peruse my email. I generally get near 100 emails a day, mostly from my
> community's egroup about various local goings-on. (We're getting near
> 7000 houses now and still building so it's a busy group.) Anyway with
> the Browser I can read the first line of each email to see if I want to
> open it or not. If not I can delete all the unwanted with just a few
> clicks. With the Gmail app I have to click each email separately to
> delete it. 75 to 100 clicks a day quickly becomes a PITA...

Hi AJL,

My main purpose isn't really the GMail app, but in a thread on biometrics,
my main point is to ask people to _think_ why MARKETING pushes biometrics.

Given biometrics is nothing more than a marketing gimmick, IMHO, you can
see how well marketing propaganda influences people on the Apple newsgroup.

They always tout that their iPhone is better than Android simply because
they're always fed by MARKETING that their biometric gimmicks are better.

My goal, in a biometric thread, is to get people to _think_ why they're
physically locking their phone in the first place, such that they feel
desperate the need to find a simpler faster quicker easier locking method.

> However I still do use the Gmail app for my saved databases. Addresses,
> books read, passwords (encrypted), birthdays and anniversaries, etc. I
> store them as permanent text drafts, updated as necessary, but never
> sent. I find it handy in that it's available and current on all my devices.

As you seem to be well aware, which is great because that means I don't
have to argue the facts with you like I must with all the iKooks, is that
the GMail app is NOT the best app if you want to lock your "google stuff".

There are two solutions for such things, one of which you're _already_
using, which is that any other method of accessing your Google Account
email has a mechanism to ask you for your Google Account login/password.

IMHO, given biometrics are a MARKETING gimmick, the better solution to
physical locking of critical apps is to choose those critical apps well.

>> What's wrong with a privacy aware mail user agent instead? Something
>> like FairMail for example? <https://email.faircode.eu/>
>
> Nothing. In my case I was assimilated (a Star Trek episode) long ago. My
> credit card company knows all I buy and where I eat. Walmart knows about
> my medicines and shots. My doctors databases keep very personal info.
> The state, my banks, the feds, my securities online and Turbotax know
> all my financial info. On and on. So if Google want's to spy on a bunch
> of us old folks emails so be it...

I get your frustration as you're not the only person who has said in
history that live isn't worth living anymore, or that freedom isn't worth
fighting for, or that your health isn't worth washing your hands daily.

Privacy is no different than personal hygiene in that you have to use good
practices constantly - where the MARKETING organizations are like the germs
who want to take away your personal hygiene every second of every day.

If you give up on personal hygiene, you become a disgusting person to
others, just as if you give up on personal privacy, you become disgusting.

As an example, people who upload _my_ kids' contact information to the
Internet are disgusting people, just as people who upload _my_ Wi-Fi
SSID/gps/signal strengh to Google servers are similar disgusting people.

Anyone who gives up on personal privacy is a disgusting person overall.
The reason is that they throw the rest of us under the bus with them.

Me? I try not to be a disgusting person - so I practice privacy daily.
(Also one of my degrees is in the life sciences - so I know hygiene too.)
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Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to underscore what happens when people give up.

On 11/15/22 11:11 AM, philo wrote:
> I recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy 22 mainly for it's excellent camera.
>
> Not too happy with the biometrics.
>
> On my old LG-6, the fingerprint sensor worked perfectly but my new phone
> is very poor.
>
> There is a sensitivity setting that I set to "increased" and I tied it
> both with and without the screen protector. I have to touch it ten times
> to even get it to register once and it took me forever to get it 100%
> setup.
>
> Most of the time when I try to use it, it fails.
>
> I registered a 2nd fingerprint using my left hand and it works
> *slightly* better.
>
> I also have face recognition set up that works just slightly better.
>
>
> The camera is so good that there is no way I'm going back to my LG, but
> I wonder if anyone here knows any secrets.
>
> Thanks

Tried it with my thumb and it works almost perfectly.
Since the sensor is in the front, it's actually easier.

Think I finally have my new phone figured out.

That said, my seven year old grandson has also taught me about several
features I never knew about :)