In article <tllimj$8gi$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> The problem you iKooks have is you only read what Apple feeds you.

having been to numerous apple events, both on and off campus, apple
feeds people quite well.

to be fair, there was a wwdc back in the 90s where the food was pretty
bad, but that was a different era. and then there were the box lunches.

nospam wrote:

>> The problem you iKooks have is you only read what Apple feeds you.
>
> having been to numerous apple events, both on and off campus, apple
> feeds people quite well.

That's actually humorous, but the point is that Apple CPUs are, and always
will be worthless until and unless Apple designs CPUs _without_ huge holes.

All the expensive Apple marketing in the world can't fix Apple's CPU flaws.

If Apple spent some of their huge marketing budget on R&D,
maybe all those huge unfixable Apple CPU holes wouldn't exist.

Jolly Roger wrote:

> He'll just ignore these factual real-world results, as is his modus
> operandi, and continue to troll.

All the iKook's excuses in the world can't fix the many Apple CPU flaws.

Don't tell us how fantastic _you_ "think" Apple CPUs are until you
can write to say all CPUs aren't filled with many unfixable flaws.

If Apple put some of it's huge advertising budget into testing its
CPUs, maybe then you could tell us how great you think they are.

But until Apple designs CPUs sans huge holes in them, you can't.

In article <tllnug$s3j$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> but the point is that Apple CPUs are, and always
> will be worthless

in fact, apple's cpus are so worthless that they give them away for
free to anyone who asks. grab a few for the holidays, before they run
out.

> until and unless Apple designs CPUs _without_ huge holes.

what's the point in that?

without holes, how would people put them on a keychain?

> All the expensive Apple marketing in the world can't fix Apple's CPU flaws.

that's not the purview of marketing.

nospam wrote:

> that's not the purview of marketing.

Can you name a CPU more flawed that the Apple CPUs, nospam.

On 2022-11-23 08:47, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> Yep. Android chips have some of the same/similar flaws, plus a pile of
>> their own flaws. Probably the biggest flaw is being pig slow in
>> comparison to Apple Silicon.
>
> *All your excuses for Apple CPU flaws doesn't _fix_ those Apple CPU flaws*

>
> Pssst. It's not Apple Silicon. It's TSMC Silicon.

So you want to have it both ways...

It's not really Apple's design...

....but Apple is still responsible for the flaws.

> Only a fool thinks it's Apple Silicon.
> HINT: That's what marketing does - it caters to you fools.

Hint:

Apple really does design their own processors (along with several other
kinds of chips).

On 2022-11-23 10:18, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> He'll just ignore these factual real-world results, as is his modus
>> operandi, and continue to troll.
>
> All the iKook's excuses in the world can't fix the many Apple CPU flaws.
>
> Don't tell us how fantastic _you_ "think" Apple CPUs are until you can
> write to say all CPUs aren't filled with many unfixable flaws.
>
> If Apple put some of it's huge advertising budget into testing its
> CPUs, maybe then you could tell us how great you think they are.
>
> But until Apple designs CPUs sans huge holes in them, you can't.

You claimed just a few minutes earlier that Apple doesn't design CPUs:

'Pssst. It's not Apple Silicon. It's TSMC Silicon.'

Are you really so addled that you can't remember that for less than 2 hours?

On 2022-11-23 14:49, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> that's not the purview of marketing.
>
>    Can you name a CPU more flawed that the Apple CPUs, nospam.

Can you name an ARM ISA CPU that has fewer flaws, Arlen?

On 2022-11-23 23:05:37 +0000, Alan said:
> On 2022-11-23 10:18, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> He'll just ignore these factual real-world results, as is his modus
>>> operandi, and continue to troll.
>>
>> All the iKook's excuses in the world can't fix the many Apple CPU flaws.
>>
>> Don't tell us how fantastic _you_ "think" Apple CPUs are until you can
>> write to say all CPUs aren't filled with many unfixable flaws.
>>
>> If Apple put some of it's huge advertising budget into testing its
>> CPUs, maybe then you could tell us how great you think they are.
>>
>> But until Apple designs CPUs sans huge holes in them, you can't.
>
> You claimed just a few minutes earlier that Apple doesn't design CPUs:
>
> 'Pssst. It's not Apple Silicon. It's TSMC Silicon.'
>
> Are you really so addled that you can't remember that for less than 2 hours?

The moron can't remember the utter garbage claimed two seconds ago, let
alone 2 hours. :-\

On 2022-11-23 23:06:11 +0000, Alan said:
> On 2022-11-23 14:49, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> nospam wrote:
>>>
>>> that's not the purview of marketing.
>>
>>    Can you name a CPU more flawed that the Apple CPUs, nospam.
>
> Can you name an ARM ISA CPU that has fewer flaws, Arlen?

Intel chips are so badly flawed that some even had trouble correctly
dividing two numbers!
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug>

In article <tlm81v$1q0b$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> Can you name a CPU more flawed that the Apple CPUs, nospam.

yes.

nospam wrote:

>> Can you name a CPU more flawed that the Apple CPUs, nospam.
>
> yes.

Name it.

Your Name wrote:

> The moron can't remember the utter garbage claimed two seconds ago, let
> alone 2 hours.

I get it that the iKooks hate me because I speak facts about Apple they're
ignorant of, but the fact remains Apple CPUs are highly unfixably flawed.

All the ad hominem attacks by the iKooks against the bearer of facts
can't fix the unpatchable design flaws in almost all of Apple's CPUs.

*Can these iKooks name a CPU that has _more_ flaws, than do Apple CPUs?*

In article <tlmbkm$v04$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> All the ad hominem attacks by the iKooks against the bearer of facts

that's funny.

nospam wrote:

> that's funny.

I get it you are desperate to deflect away from all facts about Apple.
But the question remains valid whether or not you hate Apple facts, nospam.

Can any of you iKooks find a smartphone CPU that has _more_ unpatchable
hardware flaws than Apple's smartphone CPUs?

*Name a smartphone CPU that had _more_ flaws than Apple smartphone CPUs.*

Your Name wrote:

> Intel chips are so badly flawed that some even had trouble correctly
> dividing two numbers!
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug>

*Name a smartphone CPU that had _more_ flaws than Apple smartphone CPUs.*

On 2022-11-23 16:06, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> Intel chips are so badly flawed that some even had trouble correctly
>> dividing two numbers!
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug>
>
> *Name a smartphone CPU that had _more_ flaws than Apple smartphone CPUs.*

You name one that has fewer.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tlmbkm$v04$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
> <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> All the ad hominem attacks by the iKooks against the bearer of facts
>
> that's funny.

Actually, it’s hilarious.

There is a huge difference between “Arlen facts” and actual facts.

On 2022-11-24 05:04:00 +0000, Bob Campbell said:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <tlmbkm$v04$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
>> <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All the ad hominem attacks by the iKooks against the bearer of facts
>>
>> that's funny.
>
> Actually, it’s hilarious.
>
> There is a huge difference between “Arlen facts” and actual facts.

As in they are complete opposites ... "anti-facts" and "facts. They
probably explode if put in the same place at the same time. ;-)